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All New, All Different Marvel | OT | A New 52+

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PsychBat!

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Quoting myself from the comics OT.
Hm. I didn't expect to like New Avengers a lot. Uncanny Avengers is meh just like 20% of Remender's run. Gonna give it a few more issues to let it interest me.

ANAD Avengers is interesting for the cast alone. Only thing that's disappointing is that Sam has the perfect romantic interest in his book and I wonder what makes him go with Thor.

Hopefully Ewing can make Carol interesting in Ultimates.

Can't wait for Squadron Supreme.
 

jph139

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I love Ewing (I would honestly put his run on Mighty Avengers right up next to Hickman's Avengers in quality), and the potential is definitely there for Ultimates, but I agree that I've been let down by what we've seen so far. Still have faith he'll pull it off, though.
 

Drayco21

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I would put Spencer on that list as well.

The only reason I hesitated there is because I thought Avengers World was just kinda forgettable. Superior Foes and Ant-Man were both fantastic, and his Cap is off to a really great start, so I'm guessing Avengers was just a fluke- he's pretty damn great too.
 

Terrell

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So much for the hope of an end to this multiverse nonsense. Guess they want the comics to stay impenetrable to raise ticket sales for the more accessible MCU movies.
 

Busaiku

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I'm guessing stuff like Avengers Rage of Ultron, Uncanny Inhumans #0, and Ant-Man Annual take place in the 8 months.
 

Sandfox

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Nah. That dancing thing isn't real. Stop Photoshopping stuff guys. Geez.
I knew people would react to that as soon as I read it lol.
So much for the hope of an end to this multiverse nonsense. Guess they want the comics to stay impenetrable to raise ticket sales for the more accessible MCU movies.

If anything I would say Marvel is more penetrable now then ever with their current model.

I'm guessing stuff like Avengers Rage of Ultron, Uncanny Inhumans #0, and Ant-Man Annual take place in the 8 months.

Yup.
 
This week's reviews from me.

Ewing's New Avengers felt like Grant Morrison Lite, Uncanny Avengers was still pretty bad, Cap America is someone finally delivering on the promise of Sam Wilson as Cap, and Spider-Man 2099 was all setup with little payoff until the end.
 

Drayco21

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I'm guessing stuff like Avengers Rage of Ultron, Uncanny Inhumans #0, and Ant-Man Annual take place in the 8 months.

Remender confirmed Rage of Ultron was post-Secret Wars back when it was first published, so it and Ant-Man annual definitely are supposed to be; especially in light of
Hank Pym showing up in Time Runs Out as a human and not a hybrid Ultron-person.

Putting it in the time skip months is probably the smartest way to smooth the transitions from that to whatever differences there are in the final status quo (like Sabertooth and Peter not being core Avengers anymore)
 
Everything still happened. But everything takes place 8 months after Secret Wars.

I don't think that some parts of Superior Iron Man are part of the continuity since to me Tony's armor in it is more advance than the one in Invincible Iron Man.

Everything still happened.

Basically, there was the standard Marvel Universe (616) and it died alongside every other version. Each universe shattered like Lego bricks. Secret Wars was Doom grabbing a couple of bricks from each universe and making a new one.

Post Secret Wars, the Marvel Universe (616) is back together again in largely the same configuration, but with a few extra bricks (Miles, Old Man Logan, the Maker). Otherwise, everything that happened before, still happened. All the older Marvel stories still happened. This wasn't a reboot.

Certain questions remain:

How much time was lost just prior to Secret Wars? Cap, Steve, Black Bolt and others looked rather dead in Time Runs Out. All seem fine now, so either there's an out or we came back right before the very end.

How much do they remember of Secret Wars? We've jumped forward 8 months, so we're missing the direct discussions of Secret Wars fallout. There have been subtle hints and acknowledgements, like in Iron Man, but no one's outright said anything and Secret Wars doesn't end until December I believe.

What about the other universes? Saved for Secret Wars, but Spider-Gwen and Web Warriors are already dealing with other universes, so the multiverse isn't gone. Miles is in our Marvel Universe, but the isn't the Ultimate Universe still around?

:X I wasn't that far into the secret wars so this is a lot of new information that ...well....I hope I.....*slightly crying*

Lol! I see though. I was still in the "Time Runs Out" segment before the actual Secret Wars begin but I see what happened here. I definitely need to see whats next now
 

Goldrush

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So much for the hope of an end to this multiverse nonsense. Guess they want the comics to stay impenetrable to raise ticket sales for the more accessible MCU movies.

They already did that with the Ultimate Universe 15 years ago. By Year 7, it was barely simpler than the current universe. Hell, DC nu52 was just 4 years ago and most of the characters went through some big changes. Unless Marvel and DC reboots their line every five years or so, canon/continuity is something that all comic readers have to deal with.
 

Squire

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Did you read Avengers 0? Cause the preview for Ultimates was a dumpster fire.

Portal to a hellscape opened and needs to be sealed? I know, America Chavez can facetime her girlfriend from hell and they can *literally* dance the portal closed.

There aren't enough languages on Earth to properly convey how stupid that shit was. Like tectonic plates are shifting away from Marvels offices to get away from it stupid.

I'm worried for Ultimates.

I'm honestly fine with her design and the character but yea the dancing is pretty goddamn cringe worthy.

Eh-I forgot about that. That did suck.

Nah. That dancing thing isn't real. Stop Photoshopping stuff guys. Geez.

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Heh.

I don't see the problem with dancing. She's just a young person trying to have a date night.

I thought it was sweet.

Totally.
 

Mindwipe

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So much for the hope of an end to this multiverse nonsense. Guess they want the comics to stay impenetrable to raise ticket sales for the more accessible MCU movies.

Not having a multiverse wouldn't help penetrability at all, because it means every story you want to publish has to be in continuity. DC figured that twenty years ago by making exactly that mistake.

Having lots of multiverse crossovers might be argued to be too complicated. But that's a different thing.
 

Khaz

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Not having a multiverse wouldn't help penetrability at all, because it means every story you want to publish has to be in continuity. DC figured that twenty years ago by making exactly that mistake.

Having lots of multiverse crossovers might be argued to be too complicated. But that's a different thing.

No it doesn't have to. Marvel and DC are the only publishers that care about keeping a continuity into everything they publish. They don't have to. All the alternate stories, the what if, don't have to be in a continuity of alternate universes that can be visited by their heroes somehow. I'm fine with having Old Man Logan in his own future, or Spider Gwen in her alternate version of 616. They don't have to be part of an overall multiverse, forcing them to interact with each other for no reason other than "maintaining continuity" is ridiculous. The overall continuity also force them to do crazy things in regard to dates and time passing in real life, like how they can deal with characters being around for 60 years. No one cares why Bart Simpson is still 10 after 19 seasons, or how Asterix has had all his (36 and counting) adventures in 50BC.
 

NMFried

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So far my ANAD pull list has Doctor Strange, New Avengers, Guardians and Spidey 2099. What am I missing?

I read ASM and Iron Man and both were OK. Uncanny Avengers' art throws me off. Contest of Champions was solid, but not something I'm interested in keeping up with.
 

Suzzopher

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Okay so after reading all the #1s so far I think the only books that grabbed me were Invincible Iron Man, Amazing Spider-Man and Sam Wilson: Captain America.

Going to buy those going forward and get the rest in six months on MU.
 

Lashley

Why does he wear the mask!?
The art in Uncanny Avengers is absolutely atrocious.

Like a melted toy soldier.

I'm already bored of everyone treating Deadpool like shit too. I'll keep going with it, although it hasn't hooked me yet.

New Avengers was pretty dull. Might give it another go for Maker.
 

Dalek

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So far my ANAD pull list has Doctor Strange, New Avengers, Guardians and Spidey 2099. What am I missing?

I read ASM and Iron Man and both were OK. Uncanny Avengers' art throws me off. Contest of Champions was solid, but not something I'm interested in keeping up with.

You need Sam Wilson-the best book so far.
 

Aceun

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My pull list is Iron Man, Strange and SamCap

Sam Cap is easily my favorite of the bunch.

I'll likely wait for Unlimited to catch up on Spidey. I'm skipping the two avengers books altogether.

Here's hoping ANAD Avengers and Ultimates deliver. Also curious about Squadron Supreme.
 

Goldrush

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No it doesn't have to. Marvel and DC are the only publishers that care about keeping a continuity into everything they publish. They don't have to. All the alternate stories, the what if, don't have to be in a continuity of alternate universes that can be visited by their heroes somehow. I'm fine with having Old Man Logan in his own future, or Spider Gwen in her alternate version of 616. They don't have to be part of an overall multiverse, forcing them to interact with each other for no reason other than "maintaining continuity" is ridiculous. The overall continuity also force them to do crazy things in regard to dates and time passing in real life, like how they can deal with characters being around for 60 years. No one cares why Bart Simpson is still 10 after 19 seasons, or how Asterix has had all his (36 and counting) adventures in 50BC.

I'm actually surprised by how involved the multiverse is in the post-Secret Wars 616. Prior, the Marvel multiverse was like a toybox with old plots and weird ideas that occasional story arcs and niche series open once in awhile. Overall, though, 616 tends to be kept separate. Compared that to DC where, especially post-Infinite Crisis, the events of the multiverse are often the seeds of the main universe events.
 

Aceun

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I'm actually surprised by how involved the multiverse is in the post-Secret Wars 616. Prior, the Marvel multiverse was like a toybox with old plots and weird ideas that occasional story arcs and niche series open once in awhile. Overall, though, 616 tends to be kept separate. Compared that to DC where, especially post-Infinite Crisis, the events of the multiverse are often the seeds of the main universe events.

I actually really like this direction. It gives the out-of-universe stories that same weight and significance. If those two things can inform each other that's exciting.

I'm still unclear on what "Universe 8" really is, which I imagine we'll find out after Secret Wars. However, it is exciting that the multiverse is a part of its story.
 

Slayven

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Read GoTG, Captain America, and Uncanny Avengers

So far so good, except for Uncanny it is like the artist said "fuck it, close enough"

I see Cap is doing a combo of the Nomada/The captain arcs, and Hotline era, but with modern flavorings.
 

Luigi87

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It was identical to the cartoon TV show that's out. So it was either adapting it or the show is an adaptation of the comic (unlikely).

Unless of course there is a second guardians comic series out.

That's "Marvel Universe Presents Guardians of the Galaxy" a part of the Marvel [Animated] Universe of comics related to their animated series.

Guardians of the Galaxy #1 that came out this week has different art, and is led by Star-Lady (Kitty Pryde).
 
Doctor Strange #1 was perfection, and everything I hoped for in the comic. I love the artwork, humor, and the doctor's demeanor. Definitely will be reading this series, and I might not even wait for the MU drop.

Uncanny Avengers is unreadable garbage, and is instantly dropped. Same for New Avengers. Just not good.

I still need to read Amazing Spider-Man and Captain Sam. The former looks good, the latter I'm taking a flyer on as I don't care for the character much.
 
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