• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

All-new PlayStation Plus game lineup: Assassin’s Creed Valhalla, Demon’s Souls, Ghost of Tsushima Director’s Cut, NBA 2K22, and more join the service

Inviusx

Member
Well, to be fair Microsoft offers their first party output at launch, which aren't usually consider to be the top tier of the gaming industry, unlike Sony's. So yes, some might consider getting Sony games a year after release of more value than getting Microsoft's games day and date.

You may not consider it to be top tier but within the space of a month last year Gamepass subscribers got both FH5 and Halo Infinite. That's the direction they need to go.
 

Papacheeks

Banned
That's a stretch considering Game Pass offers brand new releases as part of their offering whereas Sony's premium service doesnt, outside of time limited trials.

In terms of the tiers, and the games being added quality wise, I say it's doing different things. This is not a gamepass competitor, it's more like what Nintendo was doing. Only on a larger scale, and first party's once they hit a specific sales target go into the service it looks like. Which is what Sony was doing with PS+ titles for a while now. Some first some third party published.

But literally in terms of quality games on their service? Ghosts, Demons souls, Miles morales, returnal all being on this service to me shits on the past 2 years of Gamepass. Quality over quantity.

But again this to me is not a 1:1 comparison. If it was the base tier would not exist and you would have had essentials offer everything premium does without online. Gamepass has two tiers regular and Ultimate. Regular gamepass does not give you xbox live. Ultimate does.
Which you need to play online.

Playstation literally changed nothing for those already subbed to PS+. So you lose nothing and can upgrade to higher tier if you want.
Xbox literally took away options to just be on xbox live, they want you on gamepass.

This is just a optional service that if you go up a tier you get more for it.
 

kyliethicc

Member
Isn't it just the PS3 one? If the PS5 one is on there, that's very nice.
  • Demon’s Souls | Bluepoint Games, PS5



The Sony PS5 games in Extra catalog are Demon’s Souls, Returnal, Miles Morales, Ghost of Tsushima, Death Stranding, and Destruction AllStars.
 
Last edited:

Punished Miku

Human Rights Subscription Service
It's literally in the trailer and says PS5 in the press release. ALso Ghosts of tsushima directors cut and miles morales are also part of that service. Along with Returnal. Quality wise thats insane.
I can't open half the links you guys post at work, or see twitter.
 

The_Mike

I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Will this be the monthly redeemable games for all psplus members?

If yes, then this lineup is maybe the best ever between all these services.
 

Inviusx

Member
In terms of the tiers, and the games being added quality wise, I say it's doing different things. This is not a gamepass competitor, it's more like what Nintendo was doing. Only on a larger scale, and first party's once they hit a specific sales target go into the service it looks like. Which is what Sony was doing with PS+ titles for a while now. Some first some third party published.

But literally in terms of quality games on their service? Ghosts, Demons souls, Miles morales, returnal all being on this service to me shits on the past 2 years of Gamepass. Quality over quantity.

But again this to me is not a 1:1 comparison. If it was the base tier would not exist and you would have had essentials offer everything premium does without online. Gamepass has two tiers regular and Ultimate. Regular gamepass does not give you xbox live. Ultimate does.
Which you need to play online.

Playstation literally changed nothing for those already subbed to PS+. So you lose nothing and can upgrade to higher tier if you want.
Xbox literally took away options to just be on xbox live, they want you on gamepass.

This is just a optional service that if you go up a tier you get more for it.

I still don't see who this serves when the offering of games has a 12 month lag behind launch. When God of War 2 eventually launches it's not going to be available on this service at launch, maybe a year later. So it serves the customers who want to wait a year to get it as part of their sub?

Gamepass just makes instant sense to me, buy sub, get back catalogue and new games. This Premium service is, buy sub, get old games if you didn't want to buy them when they launched a year ago....
 

Punished Miku

Human Rights Subscription Service
I still don't see who this serves when the offering of games has a 12 month lag behind launch. When God of War 2 eventually launches it's not going to be available on this service at launch, maybe a year later. So it serves the customers who want to wait a year to get it as part of their sub?

Gamepass just makes instant sense to me, buy sub, get back catalogue and new games. This Premium service is, buy sub, get old games if you didn't want to buy them when they launched a year ago....
I guess it rewards the patient. If it's just a year delay, I'd be tempted to wait on almost all of it and sub. Even just subbing 3 months out of the year you could play all the first party stuff. I guess we'll see what happens. I've skipped multiple PS5 games because I thought they were too expensive.
 

Markio128

Gold Member
I still don't see who this serves when the offering of games has a 12 month lag behind launch. When God of War 2 eventually launches it's not going to be available on this service at launch, maybe a year later. So it serves the customers who want to wait a year to get it as part of their sub?

Gamepass just makes instant sense to me, buy sub, get back catalogue and new games. This Premium service is, buy sub, get old games if you didn't want to buy them when they launched a year ago....
At this rate, GOW2 will be on PS+ before Starfield is released lol
 

Banjo64

cumsessed
That's a stretch considering Game Pass offers brand new releases as part of their offering whereas Sony's premium service doesnt, outside of time limited trials.
‘better value’ can be perceived in many ways. £80 vs £130.

Last year my Game Pass sub let me play Psychonauts 2 and Forza. If I sub to Plus I can play Returnal and DeS. All amazing games.

If Sony add Sackboy and Ratchet within the next 12 months and don’t remove their older games from the service then it’s clear to me that this sub (extra in particular) is going to be a good time.
 

WoodyStare

Member
Not a bad start, and some great PS5 games on this list. I only wish the digital PS3 games I owned would give me access to streaming it without the subscription. Streaming them isn’t preferable of course, but it would be a nice option. I’d love to play a few races in Motorstorm Apocalypse.
 
‘better value’ can be perceived in many ways. £80 vs £130.

Last year my Game Pass sub let me play Psychonauts 2 and Forza. If I sub to Plus I can play Returnal and DeS. All amazing games.

If Sony add Sackboy and Ratchet within the next 12 months and don’t remove their older games from the service then it’s clear to me that this sub (extra in particular) is going to be a good time.
By the time I get my PS5 revision or PS5 Pro, I'll have a bunch of games to play on PS+ Extra. Good offer.
 

Chukhopops

Member
Pretty good, might sub to this once in a while when I want to play something specific. Definitely a huge improvement compared to PSNow.
 

Inviusx

Member
‘better value’ can be perceived in many ways. £80 vs £130.

Last year my Game Pass sub let me play Psychonauts 2 and Forza. If I sub to Plus I can play Returnal and DeS. All amazing games.

If Sony add Sackboy and Ratchet within the next 12 months and don’t remove their older games from the service then it’s clear to me that this sub (extra in particular) is going to be a good time.

If I were a brand new PS5 customer, it's pretty good value, buy the console, take up the sub and play the first 2 years of notable PS5 games. However as a launch customer who's had the privilege of playing those games already I cannot perceive any current or future value in upping my sub when I purchase the games I want to play either at launch or within a few months at the latest.
 
Last edited:

Papacheeks

Banned
I still don't see who this serves when the offering of games has a 12 month lag behind launch. When God of War 2 eventually launches it's not going to be available on this service at launch, maybe a year later. So it serves the customers who want to wait a year to get it as part of their sub?

Gamepass just makes instant sense to me, buy sub, get back catalogue and new games. This Premium service is, buy sub, get old games if you didn't want to buy them when they launched a year ago....

The tiers are there for people who want more. You are conditioned by Microsoft to expect everything on the service. Sony is being selective because they can't financially do what Microsoft is doing. And they shouldn't. I think in offering games that go as far back as original PS1 days to me signifies them doing what Nintendo is doing.

They put time into whatever they are doing on the backend for emulation to enhance these titles. Microsoft's library doesnt go as far as Sony's.

It's not for you we get it. But you have to understand Sony is the more sought after WW brand, who now has a reputation with Quality and consistent quality. Microsoft is not hence why they are going the Netflix route.

Sony is going the HBOMAX route. HBO has day one great shows that people like myself sign up for. The also have a back log of older shows that they have added over time. And they do a tiered release with their films. The batman was released in March and over a month later came to service.

I prefer this route.

I still saw batman in theaters.
 
Last edited:

Punished Miku

Human Rights Subscription Service
‘better value’ can be perceived in many ways. £80 vs £130.

Last year my Game Pass sub let me play Psychonauts 2 and Forza. If I sub to Plus I can play Returnal and DeS. All amazing games.

If Sony add Sackboy and Ratchet within the next 12 months and don’t remove their older games from the service then it’s clear to me that this sub (extra in particular) is going to be a good time.
Yeah, pretty crazy that PS5 first party games are coming on tier 2. Didn't expect that.
 

NickFire

Member
If I had Just gotten ps5 I’d probably be all over this for at least a year. Realistically I doubt I’ll become a subscriber because I have already bought enough to stay busy a long time. But great value for those without a huge library already As long as you don’t mind losing access after sub ends.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Good to see the middle and top tier get some PS5 games, as well as UBI+.

Similar to how GP has recent first games and EA Play.

If you're someone who hates sub plans, that's fine and buy all your games one by one. But many people are fine with sub plans. And by the looks of it, the better PS+ tiers are looking better with UBI+ (than previously announced) and the fact it said if you bought some oldies era games they carry over is a bonus.

For anyone who hates sub plans, but changes their mind with the better PS tiers, good to see the change. A good sub plan is worth it IMO.
 

jshackles

Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
I have to say it, that list of PS1 games is absolutely pathetic. Syphon Filter is the only really good game there.

Hide Reaction GIF by flor
 

kyliethicc

Member
‘better value’ can be perceived in many ways. £80 vs £130.

Last year my Game Pass sub let me play Psychonauts 2 and Forza. If I sub to Plus I can play Returnal and DeS. All amazing games.

If Sony add Sackboy and Ratchet within the next 12 months and don’t remove their older games from the service then it’s clear to me that this sub (extra in particular) is going to be a good time.
And if we zoom in on the PS+ Extra lineup…

vaJc7E4.jpg


Sheet GIF


Iei7fuq.gif
 

Banjo64

cumsessed
If I were a brand new PS5 customer, it's pretty good value, buy the console, take up the sub and play the first 2 years of notable PS5 games. However as a launch customer who's had the privilege of playing those games already I cannot perceive in current or future value in upping my sub when I purchase the games I want to play either at launch or within a few months at the latest.
That’s fine too. For someone like you this isn’t going to be good value.

I’ve had a PS5 since last year but Horizon FW, GoT DC and Elden Ring have been my only PS5 purchases.

There’s been many games that have looked good to me, but not worth the current asking price. Returnal, Ratchet, Sackboy and DeS. £80 for access to all of them would be great for me personally.
 

bosnianpie

Member
I'm very happy with the fact that I don't have to re-buy classic PS1 and PSP games I've already bought. That would have been such a douche move.

I wonder if the classics will be available for purchase outside Plus?
 

Punished Miku

Human Rights Subscription Service
That’s fine too. For someone like you this isn’t going to be good value.

I’ve had a PS5 since last year but Horizon FW, GoT DC and Elden Ring have been my only PS5 purchases.

There’s been many games that have looked good to me, but not worth the current asking price. Returnal, Ratchet, Sackboy and DeS. £80 for access to all of them would be great for me personally.
I have Demon's Souls, but I'd happily upgrade for a month to play Ratchet and Sackboy. The flexibility is interesting. Taking me a bit to wrap my head around their approach, but I think I'll be dipping my toe in within the next months off and on.
 
This is good , competition is good, this is not some b lvl competition to gamepass and me as an xbox guy likes this ,I'm pretty sure xbox will 1 up this next month
 

poodaddy

Member
That's a fantastic catalogue there. Been wanting to play Spider Man, but been waiting on a sale, so this works out perfectly.

Did the Uncharted games get any kind of PS5 patch? Increased frame rate for 4 is specifically what I'd like, don't know if that happened and was just curious.
 

Punished Miku

Human Rights Subscription Service
This is good , competition is good, this is not some b lvl competition to gamepass and me as an xbox guy likes this ,I'm pretty sure xbox will 1 up this next month
I don't know how much they can really one up it until the Activision deal. But at the very least this keeps pressure on Gamepass to keep their price low, and keep offering the best they can. Win / Win for everyone really.
 

jshackles

Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
I wonder if the classics will be available for purchase outside Plus?

From the blog, talking about PS1 and PSP games:
Some of the titles will also be available for individual purchase.

PR translation: not all of them, probably just the first party games.
 

T-Cake

Member
That's a fantastic catalogue there. Been wanting to play Spider Man, but been waiting on a sale, so this works out perfectly.

Did the Uncharted games get any kind of PS5 patch? Increased frame rate for 4 is specifically what I'd like, don't know if that happened and was just curious.

Not a patch, a whole new re-release. It's too new to be part of this service only having come out last month. Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves collection will be a while away yet.
 

kyliethicc

Member
Btw Ass of Can Whooping Ass of Can Whooping the post basically confirms there’s more than just 6 games offering trials.

Those 6 listed are just “some of” the games with trials via Premium.

It’s a great way to try games before you decide to buy, and any trophies and game save data from the trial period will carry-forward if you purchase the game. Here are some of the titles that will be part of the time-limited game trials.
 

Banjo64

cumsessed
I don't know how much they can really one up it until the Activision deal. But at the very least this keeps pressure on Gamepass to keep their price low, and keep offering the best they can. Win / Win for everyone really.
I said it when they announced the new tiers but I still think it’s true; adding all of Destiny’s expansions day 1 would be a great way of attracting and retaining subscribers.
 
Top Bottom