I just finished the Platinum would not play it any other way the game is just that stunning.
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All PS4 Pro enhanced games (native support and boosted)
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I just finished the Platinum would not play it any other way the game is just that stunning.
Ah, thanks. It does look nice, but I want to know if there's 4k support. Thanks!
I don't know, it was only my assumption beacuse there is a "Pro Enhanced" label on the box.
I heard perfomance doesn't make much of a difference though
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yeah, the game is very well optimized. Maybe one or two rare occurrences where the game drops to 29 FPS. You should play in Down sampled mode, the image quality boost is well worth it.
Karspankey
Banned
The game is still capped to 30fps, so that's probably what people mean. The 4K mode does have drops, but they are rare and never that substantial. Performance mode smooths all of those out while managing to add MSAA, if I remember correctly.
Finaika
Member
Performance mode have much better AA.
sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
You clearly knew the things about the product that you are complaining about here BEFORE you actually purchased it, so what exactly are you expecting us to say?
To each their own....i had an OG PS4 and sold it to get a Pro because i had recently got a 4K HDR set, and the increased power of the new system and the upcoming games at the time that were going to get Pro patches made it all worth it to me. Months now after my purchase, i don't regret it for a second.
Paging Liabe
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=236610402&postcount=11195
Injustice screens taken from a 4K TV.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=236610402&postcount=11195
Injustice screens taken from a 4K TV.
Liabe Brave
Member
There are some confounding factors here, such as DOF, AA, and JPEG compression, so I got counts across a wide range. But the higher results were all below 1600p, and they were on short edges. The longer the edge I counted--i.e. the more probative--the lower the results I got (and the very fact that the image is so soft suggests a lower resolution too). Absent other info, I'd assume Injustice 2 is rendering at the lowest common result I found, which is 1440p.
Kabuki Waq
Member
That's my guess. They said it was going to have a 60fps mode and a 4k mode, much like Ni-Oh.
Yautja_Warrior
Member
His comment was a reply to someone talking about Injustice 2 though but who knows for sure.
Could you possibly determine if the 1080p has downsampling or not ?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=236577060&postcount=11140
Liabe Brave
Member
Since Injustice 2 does have AA at 1080p, this question really becomes "Is the AA from supersampling or another method?" This is the shakiest kind of thing to answer without experience of typical AA patterning (especially when the downsampling would only be from 1440p). But if you're willing to believe me about questions that beg for more expertise than I actually have, then Injustice 2 does not downsample. Though the image on the whole is smooth, there appear to be sharp single-pixel artifacts, which shouldn't occur in a supersampled image.
Thanks for the catch, I'm surprised no one else has mentioned the mistake to me. The sequels to Black Flag are both 900p on PS4, but somehow I messed up Unity. I'll make the change when next I update.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Unity doesn't have a native Pro patch unfortunately. Boost mode does wonders in ironing out the performance kinks though.
pretty done
Member
Should have got Syndicate. Unity looks like ass on console and runs like ass on console. Don't listen to Crossing Eden
Syndicate is at least above 1440p, holds 30fps and isn't extremely buggy.
PackAPunchedMick
Member
Thanks a lot for the input.
Have you seen my post in the other thread?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=236628162&postcount=11244
I recreated the screenshots that the other GAFer made on his 4KTV and apart from the contrast difference (because of the turned on HDR), the image quality is exactly the same on my HDTV.
I'm more and more convinced that there actually is downsampling on HDTVs. Because it's checkerboarding from a relatively low resolution bump (1400p is it?), the result isn't that amazing. Why sometimes aliasing occurs and sometimes not beats me though.
Following screens are from my Pro attached to an HDTV as well. There is nearly no aliasing at all and the image has that slight softness that checkerboarding often causes.
I'm really looking forward to Digital Foundry or NXGamer finally telling us what is going on, lol.
=GabrielKnight=
Member
I think op has missed my post:
I've had the chance to try Risen 3 Titan Lords Enanched edition with and without boost mode.
The game runs with unlocked frame rate and vsync on.
On a regular PS4 it runs at 30 fps with frequent drops to 20 in some areas, and very rare 60 fps peaks when facing a wall or the sky.
With boost mode it runs just a little better, 30 fps with less frequent drops to 20. I've tried (with boost) the same areas where it drops to 20 (without boost), and in some cases there weren't drops at all, in other cases they were less severe.
That's it
Deck13's new game The Surge is coming out this week and has been getting a lot of buzz over its gameplay, combat and so on. However Dark10x had this to say in this
thread about the game's Pro support
So yeah, that's some high praise.
thread about the game's Pro support
So yeah, that's some high praise.
AgentOtaku
Member
I saw the OP but was hoping to get a little more insight...
Does Lego City undercover get any advantages from boost mode?
Specifically elimination of tearing or locked 30fps?
Thanks
Does Lego City undercover get any advantages from boost mode?
Specifically elimination of tearing or locked 30fps?
Thanks
Liabe Brave
Member
I'm sorry for not responding sooner, I did see your post and I very much appreciate the info. I'm getting ready to update this thread and will definitely include what you sent. My recent game data analysis time has been taken up with preparing my thread about stage-to-screen release times. Again, my apologies for the delay here.
The benefits are as you read in the OP: improved framerate in both 30fps and 60fps sections. The boost isn't very large, but the framerate on the standard PS4 isn't particularly bad to begin with. The extent it will feel improved should depend on how sensitive you are to such things.
=GabrielKnight=
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Pimpbaa
Member
Typo or did you honestly say Horizon has better AA in the mode that is purely 1080p vs a mode that downsamples from 4K?! Other than the DOF being fucked up in cutscenes, the image quality is objectively better in 4K mode.
Finaika
Member
That is not conventionel aliasing.Those steps are caused by the depth of field implementation. The IQ quality of the actual gameplay in 4K mode is sublime. One, if not the best checkerboarding results to date on the Pro. There's virtually no aliasing or dithering to be seen.
Pimpbaa
Member
Yeah, I said there was a DOF issue in cutscenes. That part was ignored for some reason.
Finaika
Member
Do you play at 4K or Performance mode for your 1080p TV?
There is literally no reason to play the game in performance mode. It runs at stable 30fps, but so does the 4K mode. It adds no visual enhancements, but the 4K mode does. 4K mode is a win/win situation and it beautifully downsamples the game on HDTVs on top of that.
Always-honest
Banned
Yep, noticed the same. Mostly cutscenes.
Finaika
Member
My PS4 Pro's fans spins very loudly in 4K mode though.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It's worth it. The super sampled image even on a 1080p display is so pristine. Playing it on an actual 4K display though .. is divine.
ultrazilla
Member
Sorry Liabe that I couldn't get back to you sooner. There's simply no way for me to see via options if the game is running in 4k native. I will say I'm leaning towards it *not* being native 4k. Especially since it appears to be running at 60fps. I'll try to post some screenshots a bit later. If anyone else has it for the Pro and can post screens, please do! This port IN MY OPINION, I DON'T STATE IT AS FACT seems like an enhanced 1080p/60fps and NOT 4k native it advertises.
Liabe Brave
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No problem at all, any help you can give is appreciated! To be clear, are you saying that you play on a 4K screen, but it looks like enhanced 1080p, or do you play on a 1080p screen and can't see any obvious signs of downsampling? If the former, screenshots at 4K would be most helpful. Thanks in any case!
Sorry for the long hiatus from the thread. I've now update the OP, and added 6 titles to the lists (plus Prey as unchanged). There's been a lot of smaller releases recently that I haven't had time to check. I'll get to those as I can. In the meantime, any screenshots, videos, or impressions you can post here or link to will always be beneficial. Sincere thanks!
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
This is false. Performance mode does have visual enhancements and that is confirmed stone cold fact.
You're Wrong.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
Supersampling in almost every Pro game that supports it for 1080p displays is awesome but Horizon is the only game I can think of where the "performance mode" is the definitive 1080p experience for the game, visually.
Check the NexusGamer breakdown or numerous others that detail the performance Mode visual enhancements for 1080p displays.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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I can't find the proper thread so i thought I would ask here:
I have two 2TB hybrid drives in an enclousre together. I'm trying to get the system to read it as one 4TB drive instead of two 2TB drives. Is there a way to do that? There is a switch on the side for RAID 0 but it stays on JBOD. Help? Its hooked up via USB only for power.
I have two 2TB hybrid drives in an enclousre together. I'm trying to get the system to read it as one 4TB drive instead of two 2TB drives. Is there a way to do that? There is a switch on the side for RAID 0 but it stays on JBOD. Help? Its hooked up via USB only for power.
sportzhead
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Can you link to that? Can't find it searching.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
To the first point:
I tried sharing this knowledge here when the game released but was largely ignored. I will try again.
The Show 17 only has one Pro Mode for 1080p displays, high framerate. It lets you pick other modes but it doesn't change anything. A 1080p display only gets HFR mode in that game on a Pro. No visual improvements at all. Very disappointing
To your second point, I disagree. Maybe I just misinterpreted Cerny's comments and official statements from Sony but it sure sounded like promises were made in both regards.
Liabe Brave
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That's exactly what I said, and what's shown in the OP. There are three Pro modes which are basically a coarse slider trading resolution and framerate, without other increases to the graphics. But since the game doesn't downsample on 1080p displays, there are no visual improvements for those users. Since the only possible benefit is framerate, the game defaults to the highest framerate mode.
I'm pretty sure you're recalling incorrectly. I can't remember any instance where a Sony official said every game would get enhanced--on any display, much less on every display. If you can find such a statement, I'd be interested in seeing it.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
To the gentleman who said he returned his Pro because he couldn't tell a difference between Horizon at 1080p, you need to give other games a chance. Horizon is a technical marvel no matter what you play it on.
The first game I played on my Pro is probably still the one that presented the biggest IQ boost on my 1080p display and that's Titanfall 2. You can buy if cheap now too
The first game I played on my Pro is probably still the one that presented the biggest IQ boost on my 1080p display and that's Titanfall 2. You can buy if cheap now too
And it's absolutely fucking awesome. Got it last week and just finished the campaign, and I'm starting a second run-through right away. I haven't done that since Modern Warfare blew my mind way back when.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
First Pro enabled game I got was Rise of Tomb Raider and boy that game is still one of the best implementations of a Pro patch. High frame rate mode, enhanced 1080p mode and a 4K mode. I ended up enjoying the 4K mode even though the frame rate boost was good because all the shimmering and aliasing pretty much got eliminated in 4K.