go on name twoI can think of 20 studios that have had better pedigrees in story telling, game design, etc than Naughty Dog. The fuck is he even talking about?
go on name twoI can think of 20 studios that have had better pedigrees in story telling, game design, etc than Naughty Dog. The fuck is he even talking about?
go on name two
Of course one of the lead voice actors is going to be biased towards his game and the studio that makes them. I think they are great Devs but Troy Baker is not exactly an unbiased source.
More than a screenshot leaked but at the end of the day only about two hours out of a huge game leaked and we don't know if all those scenes will be in the game. Almost every game has a ton of cut content and ND focus tests alternative plots all the time so I think everybody should withhold judgement until the final product is on the market.
I'm starting to think Abby isn't trans she's just been training (maybe juicing) to be ready to kill the man who killed her father. People can bring up realism as far as women's physiques but we are playing a game with zombies that have mushroom heads trying to kill us so we can relax the rules of reality a bit can't we? lol
No one really thought Abby is trans, it was just a joke.
I'm starting to think Abby isn't trans she's just been training (maybe juicing) to be ready to kill the man who killed her father. People can bring up realism as far as women's physiques but we are playing a game with zombies that have mushroom heads trying to kill us so we can relax the rules of reality a bit can't we? lol
I remember being so disappointed with Kojima and feeling betrayed by him with Metal Gear Solid 2 when all the commercials leading up to the release showed you that the protagonist of the game was Solid Snake, and then found out after laboring through the game that it was Raiden instead. This has that same feeling.
So what kind of explanation would that be?I'll buy Abby's muscular physiques provided the story explains that her (dead?) father kept stash of steroids.
So what kind of explanation would that be?
”Dad died, so i better eat all his pills now” ?
I'm starting to think Abby isn't trans she's just been training (maybe juicing) to be ready to kill the man who killed her father. People can bring up realism as far as women's physiques but we are playing a game with zombies that have mushroom heads trying to kill us so we can relax the rules of reality a bit can't we? lol
Love ND but there damage control sucks.
I'll buy Abby's muscular physiques provided the story explains that her (dead?) father kept stash of steroids.
It’s a videogame, there are no rules of reality.
We are just saying that Cuckmann is basing his design choices on a political masturbation of the feminist ego. He has the right to do it and we have the right to laugh about it.
But then the usual apologists come and say: that’s not true!!1! You don’t have any proof you nazi!!!
And this is all the discussion, really.
People are going to be thrown for the hardest of loops when they see that imagine in a world were just a game ago people had problems finding shelter,food,water, wood to make fires, ammo ect. We have now found a LA. Fitness in the middle of an apocalypse that had more water,Electricity,books,food and everything else then the entire state of New york let me laugh@yeeeeeezy Here you go.
And I'd like to say something about the gym as well...
Man, I can't think of... working out... at the gym... in an apocalyptic situation... as being anything but selfish. Unless you are in physical therapy... maybe.
I've slept on this one for a while but it still bothers me. There would be absolutely NO shortage of work in that world. No shortage of crucial projects and people needing things done. This is how you would be "working out." On top of the fact that danger can strike at any moment and you need to be ready to face it. It's not like you have entire army's worth of people to replace you if you can't. When you work out you go through a recovery phase where your muscles are trashed. During this phase you aren't going to be very effective at all for physical labor. This is why many people with very physical jobs, in this relatively carefree present day full of abundance, don't ever go to the gym because they stay busy and can't afford the downtime for recovery since their job provides enough of a workout for them anyway. But In TLOU kind of world?... I just can't imagine actually having the time. Unless you are being selfish and letting other important things go to waist.
I don't know man, that's just something that's just really unbelievable to me. I have to believe that the world would go back to being like the Amish sort of, but actually more intense and with more to do. And I've never seen one of them just sitting around not doing something. Like, Ever. And they certainly don't go to the gym and work out. But good Lord the dudes are some of the physically strongest people I've ever known because they get their workout from their environment. Much like the pioneers, which the Amish take after.
This is the last picture I have on my imgur account that hasn't been pulled down for DMCA reasons. I wonder how long it'll last if I post it. I can't believe they are going after random image sharing accounts
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Did you miss the part where he's talking to a specific guy who's trying to avoid spoilers? It's not like the guy is going around actively looking for the videos.What's with the reversed video? You can see his God of War plaque is mirrored.
And I thought Druckmann's damage control was bad.
This Baker video has to be worst desperate plea from a hipster I've ever seen on video. Ok I get it. Another person out of the woodwork who is affiliated with the game coming out defending it.
"Dude, dude, dude you really think a game can be spoiled in a couple screen shots?"
Hey dude, dude, dude bro wearing a hat indoors. You forgot about the 2 hours worth of leaked videos, pages of written leaks and even Sony and ND had to come out sand say the next day they were leaks.
go on name two
NOTE: This list does not indicate that *every* game created by the studio has been amazing, but they have produced numerous titles on par and better than what Naughty Dog has.Fuck that I want to here all twenty
NOTE: This list does not indicate that *every* game created by the studio has been amazing, but they have produced numerous titles on par and better than what Naughty Dog has.
Square Enix (Both Soft and Enix prior to merger and after)
Black Isle Studios
Looking Glass Studios
BioWare
Obsidian
Bethesda
CD Projekt Red
Atlus
Larian Studios
Capcom
Namco
Konami
Origin Systems, Inc.
Interplay
Ion Storm
Key
HAL Labs
Arkane Studios
From Software
Level-5
Nihon Falcom
Monolith Studios
Studio Alex/Game Arts
Sega
Intelligent Systems
Oh fuck, look at that. I did a whole 25! And there is *still* more studios, development teams, and independent folk that have been doing what Naughty Dog has been doing for decades.
FFS, gaming has been around for over half a century by this point with thousands of amazing titles that still stand on their own and are as good, if not better, than many modern releases. If you like Naughty Dog, fine - I enjoy some of their games myself. Some of them even have good writing, gameplay, pacing, etc. However, trying to suggest that no other studio has come close to what Naughty Dog does? No game has as good of writing, characters, story, or gameplay? That is objectively false unless you are purposefully ignorant.
NOTE: This list does not indicate that *every* game created by the studio has been amazing, but they have produced numerous titles on par and better than what Naughty Dog has.
Square Enix (Both Soft and Enix prior to merger and after)
Black Isle Studios
Looking Glass Studios
BioWare
Obsidian
Bethesda
CD Projekt Red
Atlus
Larian Studios
Capcom
Namco
Konami
Origin Systems, Inc.
Interplay
Ion Storm
Key
HAL Labs
Arkane Studios
From Software
Level-5
Nihon Falcom
Monolith Studios
Studio Alex/Game Arts
Sega
Intelligent Systems
Oh fuck, look at that. I did a whole 25! And there is *still* more studios, development teams, and independent folk that have been doing what Naughty Dog has been doing for decades.
FFS, gaming has been around for over half a century by this point with thousands of amazing titles that still stand on their own and are as good, if not better, than many modern releases. If you like Naughty Dog, fine - I enjoy some of their games myself. Some of them even have good writing, gameplay, pacing, etc. However, trying to suggest that no other studio has come close to what Naughty Dog does? No game has as good of writing, characters, story, or gameplay? That is objectively false unless you are purposefully ignorant.
Ill bump your list to 45NOTE: This list does not indicate that *every* game created by the studio has been amazing, but they have produced numerous titles on par and better than what Naughty Dog has.
Square Enix (Both Soft and Enix prior to merger and after)
Black Isle Studios
Looking Glass Studios
BioWare
Obsidian
Bethesda
CD Projekt Red
Atlus
Larian Studios
Capcom
Namco
Konami
Origin Systems, Inc.
Interplay
Ion Storm
Key
HAL Labs
Arkane Studios
From Software
Level-5
Nihon Falcom
Monolith Studios
Studio Alex/Game Arts
Sega
Intelligent Systems
Oh fuck, look at that. I did a whole 25! And there is *still* more studios, development teams, and independent folk that have been doing what Naughty Dog has been doing for decades.
FFS, gaming has been around for over half a century by this point with thousands of amazing titles that still stand on their own and are as good, if not better, than many modern releases. If you like Naughty Dog, fine - I enjoy some of their games myself. Some of them even have good writing, gameplay, pacing, etc. However, trying to suggest that no other studio has come close to what Naughty Dog does? No game has as good of writing, characters, story, or gameplay? That is objectively false unless you are purposefully ignorant.
Most of those are publishers not studios you clown.
What's with the reversed video? You can see his God of War plaque is mirrored.
And I thought Druckmann's damage control was bad.
This Baker video has to be worst desperate plea from a hipster I've ever seen on video. Ok I get it. Another person out of the woodwork who is affiliated with the game coming out defending it.
"Dude, dude, dude you really think a game can be spoiled in a couple screen shots?"
Hey dude, dude, dude bro wearing a hat indoors. You forgot about the 2 hours worth of leaked videos, pages of written leaks and even Sony and ND had to come out sand say the next day they were leaks.
it doesn't really matter it was it wasn't just a couple of screenshots. Even with all the leaks, there's still a lot about the game that we don't know.
That's his real point. 2 hours of footage is only part of a 25-30 hour game. I don't know why people are shouting damage control when what he's saying it's very reasonable.
Yeah, he could have done more research, but his point about being more to the game does make sense.Dforce respect you buddy but your wrong here. If he's going to the effort of addressing the leaks he should of least research the extent of them. By lying to already fracture fan base It raises more question for people. Personally Don't think he should of spoke at all.
didnt know steroids were lying around in this world is that a newly furnished couch on a clean Rug is this the TLOU?
Fake leaks? Have you not seen the gameplay and cut scenes?!?I watched 2 minutes of this and he's also talking about the fake leaks.
He says Abby will kill off Joel and Ellie and the story is about Christian cultist. It's very sad that Naughty Dog has spent years making this game only to have people spread lies about this game based on a fake leak. Hopefully everything clears before the game releases.
NOTE: This list does not indicate that *every* game created by the studio has been amazing, but they have produced numerous titles on par and better than what Naughty Dog has.
Square Enix (Both Soft and Enix prior to merger and after)
Black Isle Studios
Looking Glass Studios
BioWare
Obsidian
Bethesda
CD Projekt Red
Atlus
Larian Studios
Capcom
Namco
Konami
Origin Systems, Inc.
Interplay
Ion Storm
Key
HAL Labs
Arkane Studios
From Software
Level-5
Nihon Falcom
Monolith Studios
Studio Alex/Game Arts
Sega
Intelligent Systems
Oh fuck, look at that. I did a whole 25! And there is *still* more studios, development teams, and independent folk that have been doing what Naughty Dog has been doing for decades.
FFS, gaming has been around for over half a century by this point with thousands of amazing titles that still stand on their own and are as good, if not better, than many modern releases. If you like Naughty Dog, fine - I enjoy some of their games myself. Some of them even have good writing, gameplay, pacing, etc. However, trying to suggest that no other studio has come close to what Naughty Dog does? No game has as good of writing, characters, story, or gameplay? That is objectively false unless you are purposefully ignorant.
DForce keeps going back to the original mass leak from early April (that 4chan or Reddit leak where someone wrote a solid page or two of text). Nobody even cares about that summary anymore. Everyone is going off recent info and the 2 hrs of footage.Fake leaks? Have you not seen the gameplay and cut scenens?!?
Fake leaks? Have you not seen the gameplay and cut scenens?!?
- One of the surgeons Joel killed had a daughter called Abby
- The Firefly massacre destroyed her whole life, she's been looking for revenge ever since
- Knew who Ellie was because of her dad talking about their shot at a cure, figured out Joel from Firefly records
- Cult attacks Ellie's settlement and she, Jesse, and Dinah are part of the group sent to track down and attack it - Jesse is killed during this
- Ellie is now violently angry and goes to Seattle looking for the cults home to wipe it out, meets Joel there because he heard about Jesse and came back to help her
- Abby finds Ellie because she's been in conflict with the cult too, so when Ellie hunts them to Seattle and is set to attack them with Joel her group find them and attack
- She kills Joel herself, takes Ellie back to camp debating what to do with her since for all her hate she doesn't blame her for the massacre
- Ellie butchers her group to escape and Abby is now motivated to hunt her down
- Second half of the game is spent as Abby chasing Ellie
- Ellie continues hunting the cult while you chase her down
- Ending is Ellie and Abby fighting to the death
- You kill Ellie as Abby, and she leaves while realizing she's not really "won" in any meaningful way since all she's done is get more of her loved ones killed for the sake of her killing Joel and then Ellie
- Ending is "cycle of revenge" with the loose implication Ellie's friends will hunt Abby now in return
RedVIper
Niked here are the fake leaks people were ranting about and people are still spreading across social media.
Spoiler rant videos were posted in this thread and the majority were reading this summary.
Why it's wrong.
1. Ellie doesn't die after the fight
2. The game doesn't end after the fight
3. You don't play Abby half way through the game, her chapters are much shorter than Ellie's.
4. Ellie is not chasing the cult, she's chasing an enreily different group.
5. Ellie and Joel goes after the WLF to rescue Tommy, not to get revenge.
6. Ellie does not continue to hunt down the cult after you switch to Abby. Abby and Ellie story take place at the exact same time until after Abby's Day 3 segment.
7. Abby finding Ellie through records is false.
This is a fake leak, guys. lol
Just look at the people trying to spoil the game. You're going to see people say Ellie and Joel die and the main bad guys is about a homophobic cult.
We don't know if she dies or not. It's not confirmed either way.
You keep claiming people are spreading or thinking certain leaks are true, and are false. Based on a premise people haven't seen the whole game yet.RedVIper
Niked here are the fake leaks people were ranting about and people are still spreading across social media.
Spoiler rant videos were posted in this thread and the majority were reading this summary.
Why it's wrong.
1. Ellie doesn't die after the fight
2. The game doesn't end after the fight
3. You don't play Abby half way through the game, her chapters are much shorter than Ellie's.
4. Ellie is not chasing the cult, she's chasing an enreily different group.
5. Ellie and Joel goes after the WLF to rescue Tommy, not to get revenge.
6. Ellie does not continue to hunt down the cult after you switch to Abby. Abby and Ellie story take place at the exact same time until after Abby's Day 3 segment.
7. Abby finding Ellie through records is false.
This is a fake leak, guys. lol
Just look at the people trying to spoil the game. You're going to see people say Ellie and Joel die and the main bad guys is about a homophobic cult.
So that's really all you have to say?
yep this alone is so moronic its unbelievable TLOU set up the world as its over no medicine,no electricity, barely any shelter, barely any food, no weapons, rusted cars ever where clogging up the roads. We are shown all of that then we flip to abby's group and these people are living in a freshly restock home good store,Libarary and 24 hour fitness with a Disney park all built in. We went throught half of the country in the 1st game and every everywhere was flooding or destroyed and now for some reason this one random building was untouched right LOL.Yeah I've made fun of that a few times, myself. I really haven't figured out yet why Abby's group seems to have a massive sports complex with a full gym that's completely pristine this far into armageddon.
Just imagine all the murderers fighting over the chores chart because they don't feel like sweeping.
Can someone point me to this 2 hour of footage & recent leaks? Because I only have seen the 90 minute footage & various summaries.Everyone is going off recent info and the 2 hrs of footage.
You keep claiming people are spreading or thinking certain leaks are true, and are false. Based on a premise people haven't seen the whole game yet.
But then you are doing the same thing trying to counter or downplay rumours and leaks, and you haven't played the game either to see the whole plot.
Can someone point me to this 2 hour of footage & recent leaks? Because I only have seen the 90 minute footage & various summaries.
Looks like the message of the day is that in a zombie filled apocalypse, everyone's choice of career becomes fitness trainer or janitor. But only a select few are lucky enough to work at a Gold's Gym in a secret location.yep this alone is so moronic its unbelievable TLOU set up the world as its over no medicine,no electricity, barely any shelter, barely any food, no weapons, rusted cars ever where clogging up the roads. We are shown all of that then we flip to abby's group and these people are living in a freshly restock home good store,Libarary and 24 hour fitness with a Disney park all built in. We went throught half of the country in the 1st game and every everywhere was flooding or destroyed and now for some reason this one random building was untouched right LOL.
Not sure what you want from me.
All I said on the other thread was that there were real leaks and I saw people upset about those.
You're the one who dragged me over here mate.
If the whole plot hasn't been spoiled since nobody has actually played it yet, how do you know Ellie doesn't die?You're lacking common sense, dude. lol.
We only know a few major spoilers, but we don't know the ending of the game or what's going to happen. We don't know Abby's story, how and why the cult captures her, what happens leading up to Joel's death, the Epilogue, etc. There's MORE to this story than what was leaked online. People who are sharing fake leaks (such as Ellie dying) don't know that there's more to the game and the plot is going to be different than what the plot lot leaks suggest.