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[Bitstream]

Being annoyed hardware based AI upscaling isn't on the last gen AMD cards is no different than being annoyed that RTX wasn't backported to the 1080.
The silicon needed to crunch the numbers simply isn't there.
FSR4 works pretty damn well, but even without it the 9070 is a ridiculously performant card, often trading blows and sometimes even beating the 4080.

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

What's the difference between DLSS and machine learning?

DLSS was the first time we saw machine learning tech used for gaming. It's a temporal anti aliasing and upscaling technique which uses a Convuluted Neural Network or Transformer Neural Network to inference what the low resolution image you're seeing should look like at a higher resolution and then shows this higher resolution instead so the GPU no longer has to render it traditionally. For example 4k DLSS Performance mode is a 1080p image being reconstructed to 4k by DLSS.

It first started exceeding every other form of upscaling and AA when Nvidia released DLSS2 5 years ago and it's only gotten better since.

 

[YCoCg]

This article feels out of place, we already know AMD switched to AI based upscaling for FSR4 and it's done a great job. Yeah you can say AMD are behind but with FSR4 they've gone from being 5 years behind to 1 year.

And with all the shit Nvidia is pulling I'm sure most won't mind being a year behind if it avoids that shit.

 

[Trilobit]

It's a temporal anti aliasing and upscaling technique which uses a Convuluted Neural Network or Transformer Neural Network to inference what the low resolution image you're seeing should look like at a higher resolution

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

I have all of AMD's flagship cards and none of them compare to even the 4080 in terms of image quality IMO. Much less the 4090 and 50xx(80/90) cards. Yes the price is lower, but comparing apples to apples we are not.

That would be a HUGE achievement for AMD.

 

[Karim]

The issue with FSR4 is it being exclusive to a recent GPU only a fraction of AMD owners have and being exclusive to a certain select amount of games. [...] Too late, too little, too expensive.

It can be applied too to the Nvidia new gpus eh.

 

[Fake]

Could they implement this on the base PS5 or no? I have a 3080 PC so no real reason to use AMD's upscaler there until they can beat NVIDIA's, but it'd be great to get gains on a five-year-old console.

PS5 doesn't have AI hardware.

PS6 on the other hand will get all the feedback from PS5pro. Lets hope for PS6 a ultimate AI upscaler.

 

[viveks86]

Calling this redstone just made me realize why the collab with Sony is called Amethyst. Red+blue = purple

 

[Mr Moose]

Feature parity.
Everything is ML.

 

[Spukc]

So are these algorithms doing the similar to this? Or are they just the mathematical magic described in the video dressed up as AI?

Been a while since i watched something this fucking annoying on youtube..

Thanks

 

[SScorpio]

FSR 4 is on par with DLSS 3.

Which is nice, but DLSS 3 came out 2.5 years ago with Ada, and was updated to support path tracing in DLSS 3.5 on the same hardware. And we now have DLSS 4 which is even better running on all RTX cards.

Why buy a new AMD card when you could buy a used last gen NVIDIA card that does more and costs less? Intel's first attempt was ahead of FSR3, AMD needs to step up their game.

 

[metareferential]

It's time they actually deliver something. Latest FSR is a good start.

But nothing from AMD side actually compares to nvidia. That's why those assholes can do whatever.

 

[YCoCg]

Which is nice, but DLSS 3 came out 2.5 years ago with Ada, and was updated to support path tracing in DLSS 3.5 on the same hardware. And we now have DLSS 4 which is even better running on all RTX cards.

Why buy a new AMD card when you could buy a used last gen NVIDIA card that does more and costs less? Intel's first attempt was ahead of FSR3, AMD needs to step up their game.

Because FSR4 is trading blows with DLSS4 in some areas, if we go by overall averages it's currently like this,
DLSS4 Transformer>FSR4>DLSS3 CNN
Which considering it's their first jump into a proper AI based upscaler and it's already blasted past XeSS and PSSR isn't bad, again considering for years we had people here shouting the DLSS3 was perfect and you can't tell the difference.

 

[Moses85]

 

[YeulEmeralda]

This article feels out of place, we already know AMD switched to AI based upscaling for FSR4 and it's done a great job. Yeah you can say AMD are behind but with FSR4 they've gone from being 5 years behind to 1 year.

And with all the shit Nvidia is pulling I'm sure most won't mind being a year behind if it avoids that shit.

AMD isn't even competing with 5080/90.

Look I'm willing to call out Nvidia for being greedy corpo cunts but their tech is legit.

 

[YCoCg]

AMD isn't even competing with 5080/90.

Look I'm willing to call out Nvidia for being greedy corpo cunts but their tech is legit.

That is the curious case because AMD is focusing on the ranges that gamers want to buy, side stepping the high end for a generation or two could lead to something huge if they do go back.

 

[Puscifer]

I have been hearing this since FSR2. I don't believe em anymore.

I mean PSSR is FSR 4, this is just evolving from that so it should have parity or close to it again.