ScaryBrandon
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AMD Radeon RX6800/RX6800XT Reviews/Benchmarks Thread |OT|
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supernova8
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These launches where there's no chance of even getting one are kinda getting boring.
waylo
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Basically what I expected. Solid card for raster performance, but once you factor in RT and DLSS, it's really not too close.
In reality though, who buys a $600+ GPU to play at 1080p/1440p with just regular raster? If I'm buying a card for that much, I want all the bells and whistles, and unfortunately AMD falls quite a bit short in that category.
In reality though, who buys a $600+ GPU to play at 1080p/1440p with just regular raster? If I'm buying a card for that much, I want all the bells and whistles, and unfortunately AMD falls quite a bit short in that category.
supernova8
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There are 6800xt's on ebay now, bids are topping $3000.
Ridiculous.
Edit: make that $9000. Looks like the scalpers are being trolled
Yeah is the "possible image of 6800 XT" stuff? Looks like scams. It's actually a funny way to troll the scalpers who clearly don't even have theirs in hand yet.
MadYarpen
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Waiting for partners' models makes sense anyway - you can see the reviews, and make the decision - also maybe some more NVidia cards will show up and we can actually have a choice."Due to highly limited stock we don't take in orders of reference models. Wait for third party cards to make an order." On store order page here
ethomaz
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The RT performance is in line with PS5/Xbox.
PS5/Xbox = RTX 2060
6800XT = RXT 2070.
It was already expected.
Edit - Fixed the 0.
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Ironbunny
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I would happily pay 1000$ for a card with regular raster speed if it runs fast on 4k. Couldn't give rats ass about RT now.
Agreed.
This card would be compelling if it were $150-$200 cheaper than a 3080, but given the performance I think you're better off buying a 3080 unless you're gaming at 1080p and do not care about RT at all.
Oof level: Massive.
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BluRayHiDef
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I'm watching Hardware Unboxed's review of the RX 6800 XT and thus far the card is consistently faster than the RTX 3080 at 1440p and either equal or slightly slower at 4K.
Also, it's only slightly slower than the RTX 3090 at both 1440p and 4K, which indicates that the RX 6900 XT will be consistently faster than the RTX 3090 (barring driver updates).
Also, it's only slightly slower than the RTX 3090 at both 1440p and 4K, which indicates that the RX 6900 XT will be consistently faster than the RTX 3090 (barring driver updates).
VFXVeteran
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Once again my educated predictions come to truth.
The REAL value in these next-gen GPUs is the RT. Without that - you have nothing but an upgraded 2080Ti for rasterization.
AMD boards are nearly 2x slower on average than the 3090. And that's without using DLSS 2.0.
That's the reason these Nvidia boards cost what they do. They deliver where it counts.
The REAL value in these next-gen GPUs is the RT. Without that - you have nothing but an upgraded 2080Ti for rasterization.
AMD boards are nearly 2x slower on average than the 3090. And that's without using DLSS 2.0.
That's the reason these Nvidia boards cost what they do. They deliver where it counts.
VFXVeteran
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We don't care about rasterization. We care about ray-tracing. And these boards aren't worth their price just for rasterization when most games will utilize RT.
Pagusas
Elden Member
Seriously, who the heck is buying this card so they can play last gen games or new games with features disabled? All these people that dont care about RT, what exactly are you buying high end flag ship graphic cards for? These cards are $100 - $200 overpriced given there lack of performance/features where it counts.
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Stray Parts
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I prefer old fashioned site reviews than YT, anyway the overall impression is that the 6800 is on par with the RTX 3080 so along as your not using DLSS or ray tracing.
Hexus, Tweakers, Kitguru.
It's ray tracing performance is around RTX 2080 levels give or take.
Not bad at all by any means and RT isnt going to be something everyone wants though there's no denying Nvidia have a significant technological edge in this area.
Hexus, Tweakers, Kitguru.
It's ray tracing performance is around RTX 2080 levels give or take.
Not bad at all by any means and RT isnt going to be something everyone wants though there's no denying Nvidia have a significant technological edge in this area.
Damian black
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Of course you dont care about now that they catched up.
Lol.
So predictable.
Lol.
So predictable.
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VFXVeteran
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geordiemp
- sorry man. AMD boards don't have what it takes to push to the next-level of ray-tracing. As I said before again and again, it was an afterthought and never really meant to be released this soon from AMD. But they got pressured and had to do something. So they hijacked their TMUs and decided to put code in there for it. But that chokes the entire graphics pipeline doing that. Without Tensor cores either, the RT is dead in the water.
BluRayHiDef
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Even so, it's still a very impressive card, especially considering how long AMD has failed to compete with Nvidia at the high-end.
BattleScar
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*Your mileage may vary.
When most games actually utilise real time ray-tracing, both Ampere and RDNA2 will be outdated.
For the moment, the vast majority of games do not utilise RT and in that sense they are absolutely worth their price. Particularly if you game at 1440p and below.
If Minecraft RTX is your jam, then go Nvidia. AMD's OpenGL performance is not good without RT forget about with full path-tracing enabled.
Its about as much of an afterthought as Turing RTX then, given that they're getting the same or better performance as Turing at ray tracing.
Ampere has the advantage of being the second generation. RDNA2 is not at all bad for a first attempt.
Given how much performance they clawed back in rasterization in just one generation at the same node, I wouldn't rule AMD out of making a similar jump in performance with ray tracing in their next generation of GPUs.
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3liteDragon
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I know it’s a bit early but where do you think RDNA 3 cards will land in ray-tracing performance compared to an RTX 3080?
Andodalf
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VFX right as always. Felt like the 5 or so of us in the announcement thread who pointed out obvious truths were on an island. Hilarious to look back on.
Coulomb_Barrier
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regawdless
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Curious how well these cards will sell. Enthusiasts cards for over 600 bucks but basically not usable for THE enthusiast feature for the foreseeable future.
Tough sell for me, despite the great rasterization performance.
Tough sell for me, despite the great rasterization performance.
VFXVeteran
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But the PS warriors will say we are just at the start of a generation and the developers will find ways to make the next Spiderman MM do even more RT and higher res textures despite the limitation in hardware that we see. This is the main issue I have with people on these boards. They need to ALWAYS consider what the hardware can actually do.. what it's true limit is and then they can have realistic expectations. Trust me when I say we are already seeing the max of what the consoles can do with RT right now on release.
Serious performance from AMD, glad they're back to competing at the high end. Hopefully they can deliver on a better stock quantities and crush Nvidia this quarter. Watch Nvidia come out with new products and shuffle their line-up which would have kept leeching people if these cards were not competitive.
Anything to move those goal posts and whatever that makes them sleep better at night.Guess you don't care about power draw either?
300W or 400W doesn't make that much difference on a desktop PC if you spend $150+ on a good PSU, which you should if you drop 500+ on a GPU.Guess you don't care about power draw either?
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Andodalf
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Ignoring their major advantages is incredibly silly. In real world gaming you will use DLSS most of the time when targeting Max settings at 4k 60FPS, and you still will at 1440p high refresh rate. You will want to use RT when available. You will get much better performance with Nvidia's lineup in most games today, and the lead will grow.
Dampf
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This video physically hurts me. Saying RT is not important based on literally the worst RT implementation on the market just bothers me. What is wrong with that guy?
ethomaz
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Well the MM RT is what Insommiac could do with the 2060 like RT performance... it is not bad (actually it is pretty good) but it is way below what nVidia has in PC today.
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JimboJones
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Seems competent but nothing mind blowing, pretty light on extra features and fairly disappointing Ray tracing.
Hmmm..
Hmmm..
BluRayHiDef
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It's not about the quantity of games that support ray tracing but the quality of the games that support it. Apropos, Cyberpunk: 2077.
Resenge
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Andodalf
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Considering 2/3rds of the thread called him an idiot for it, he deserves some self congratulations. Goodness knows the guys who called him an idiot will just hide.
GaviotaGrande
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I'm happy to see that AMD stepped their game up. Competition is good and will push the industry forward. All I know is that I'm sticking with my 3080 until 10GB VRAM will become not sufficient enough. I predict 18 to 24 months.
grfunkulus
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I watched it too and it doesn't prove that. 3080 is 2-5% ahead at 4k, barring dlss and ray tracing. So the 6800xt is to the 3080 what you say it is to the 3090 in 4k-- slightly behind. You've literally been singing the opposite tune for weeks/months about how they're feature incomplete and won't compete once those features are enabled (and they don't).
I think this is just another attention seeking post. You're going to buy both and then agonize on the board about if you should sell your 3090 and 3080 to someone at cost. Which you probably won't end up doing. Just give it a rest.
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ethomaz
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I didn't see any hint which shows memory is a issue in any card.
In fact where it needs more memory (4k) nVidia start to pull better performance.
Soulblighter31
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The 3080 wins 14 games out of 18 at 4k. How did you understand that its equal ? Its around 5% slower at 4k, no dlss, raytracing is tragically poor. There's a place in the market for this card, but its not a 3080 competitor
regawdless
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You'll be fine for longer than that. Don't buy into the VRAM panic.
Oh NOW it doesn't matter? I could've sworn Nvidia fanboys used to love mentioning how AMD used to draw more power and generate more heat in the past.
Armorian
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WTF is wrong with 3070 here?
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
All I can say is WOW. The 680)XT is the better card, eventhough performance it on par. The 16GB buffer and $50 cheaper price give it a mass advantage.
I have to rub it in to
Leonidas
. He was so hilariously dead wrong.
RIP Navi
RTX 2060 Super seems great
I have to rub it in to
Leonidas
. He was so hilariously dead wrong.
GaviotaGrande
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Well in 18-24 months we can probably expect a new generation of GPUs so I'll be upgrading anyway. No panic here.
Mister Wolf
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Wait until they see those Cyberpunk benchmarks. The game thats really going to kick off "Next Gen".
Mhmmm 2077
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Fucking hell, sold out everywhere XD so I'm stuck with my old HD 7970 GHz for now... everything else I have new and assembled. Not sure how I will play Cyberpunk 2077, maybe it will be enough at 1080p without Ray Tracing..?
