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AMD Ryzen Thread: Affordable Core Act

Kayant

Member
Guru 3D - AMD Ryzen 5 1500X and 1600X review
You can see the award already, I'll give both tested processors a great value award. I do have a soft-spot for that six-core Ryzen 5 1600X though. At 249 USD, paired with the B350 120 USD motherboard we used the gains and performances are tremendous value for that money. Tweak that CPU to 4.0 GHz on all cores and your PC eco-system will list green flags all-over. It is fast and you'll have a 12 thread solution. Next to that, it offers nice gaming perf and excellent application threaded performance as Ryzen offers killer single- and multi-threaded performance. The eco-system is fast in matters of storage like M.2, SATA and/or USB 3.1. The step upwards to Ryzen 5 1600X is a proper one for the folks that actually need and waited for a well deserved upgrade, the guys that have been waiting for a price/perf competitive 6-core processor series and the intent to give AMD some well-deserved support after a couple of gruesome years. As such, the 1600X oozes value if paired with the right motherboard. The quad-core Ryzen 5 1500X performs good as well, I have no complaints here other than I would have liked to see it boost to 4.0 GHz stock out of the box. However, the more I test quad-core processors the less excited I am getting about them. A move to six and eight-core processors to me feels like the right thing to do as I do feel my overall desktop experience is much snappier and faster compared to any brand quad-core CPU. But value wise, for 189 USD that four-core CPU is just that, good value. And sure, perhaps more than enough for many. The one thing you need to keep in mind is that Ryzen is a platform in development. Your motherboard will need a few firmware updates in the future, the memory support sometimes can be daunting and icky. But progress has been made in large steps over the last few weeks and slowly but steadily things are maturing properly. Our recommendation sticks, Ryzen processors like fast frequency memory. You start with a 2667 MHz kit but really, we recommend 2933 MHz or 3200 MHz CL16. Motherboards wise the performance will be the same from a 99 USD B350 towards the most expensive 350 USD X370 motherboard, you define the budget and needs in features. Please base your memory purchase choices on what the motherboard manufacturer advises (check their QVL list). Your sweet spot memory might be 2933 MHz with two DIMMs hence for all processor reviews we are moving to that number where possible. Right, that said and done I think this conclusion page has enough information for you to chew over. A Ryzen 1600X paired with the right motherboard could be a tremendous deal that once again drips and oozes pure value and performance. And hey, can't afford a GeForce GTX 1080 Ti or Radeon R9 Fury X? Please understand that the gaming matter mentioned is not at all relevant to you if you are using, say, a graphics card at the performance level of a GeForce GTX 1060/1070 or Radeon RX 480. These actually would be a fantastic match combined with this gem of a 249 USD six-core processor. And the quad-core Ryzen 1500X, well it does really, really well compared to i5 processors in roughly that same price-bracket. But honestly, anno 2017 we feel a six or eight-core part is the way to go. And you have thank AMD for that, bringing value to the PC eco system with many cores.

PCper - The Ryzen 5 Review: 1600X and 1500X Take on Core i5
In many ways, AMD's Ryzen 5 follows in the footsteps of the Ryzen 7 launch. The 1600X and 1500X processors are priced directly in competition with very popular Core i5 processors from Intel and have very specific and explicit advantages and disadvantages to their Intel counterparts. For consumers concerned with multi-threaded performance, including media encoding, rendering or even heavy multitasking scenarios, the Ryzen 5 processors will provide a significantly improved experience.

Single threaded workloads, when used in a vacuum, will still run better on Intel hardware. Audio encoding, user interface interactivity and many other working environments fall into this category so it is not something we should simply overlook.

Gaming is still a pain point for AMD as they work through the initial Ryzen launch. 1080p gaming performance is more important in Ryzen 5 than it was on Ryzen 7 and in truth the situation has really changed over the last month. Though AMD did show the potential for improvement with optimization in Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation, it still has an uphill battle to deal with, convincing game developers to speed time and resources targeting AMD Ryzen hardware.

Both configuration of the Windows 10 power modes and using higher speed DDR4 memory can help the Ryzen performance situation, but both are also "not ideal" from the standpoint of requiring user intervention or requiring higher upfront cost than the equivalent Intel systems.

While I was incredibly excited about the Ryzen 7 1800X processor for the high end of the consumer market, the Ryzen 5 1600X and 1500X are equally exciting for the mid-range PC builder. Getting a 12-thread system for $249 (CPU cost) compared to a 4-thread system (with the Core i5) at the same price point, seems like a no-brainer, especially if you aren't overly concerned with the single threaded performance results we showed on previous page. Gaming is still something to keep an eye on, and pure gamers will likely want to stick to Intel for now. But for those of us with a range of computing going on day to day, AMD has a very compelling solution - finally.

@·feist·

Videocardz has a review roundup if you need it
 

Tommy DJ

Member
That's pretty much what I expected. Literally the same as Ryzen 7 for anything that needs less cores or can't leverage all 8 cores/16 threads at once but at a way lower price point.

Actually a fairly compelling alternative to the i5-7600k as single threaded performance is close enough a lot of the time that it probably doesn't matter but crushes the i5-7600k in better threaded applications like encoding.
 

warheat

Member
Just saw the benchmark, I'm still baffled why the fuck AMD didn't launch this earlier.

The R5 1600x totally destroyed the i5 in gaming and i7 7700k in productivity along with its own brother the R7 1700.

That's it, I'm getting the R5 1600x and you should too.
 

Eliciel

Member
just how much stronger is Ryzen? How much is Ryzen what the I5 2500K was for gaming in the last 10 years?

Please anwer....
 

Mr Swine

Banned
I think I'll get the 1600x and next year upgrade to the faster one that will probably have higher clock speed and such. This looks awesome :)
 

Toe-Knee

Member
Would you guys say a 1600/"1600x is a decent enough jump from a 4690k?

I do a lot of music production and the 4690 struggles in vst heavy sessions


I have been considering moving to a 4790 for a whole but held off for this.
 
just how much stronger is Ryzen? How much is Ryzen what the I5 2500K was for gaming in the last 10 years?

Please anwer....

There's no such thing as a 2500k anymore, and it's not Ryzen.

I mean, it's great value in the mid-range segment, but outside of the US (for pricing issues), there's really no need for a Ryzen chip, if you're only after gaming.

Where I live there's just a 50/70 dollar difference between a 1600x and a 7700k.

If you factor in productivity and streaming, a 1600x is a great, great little chip.

Even moreso if you want to spare money: a 1500x with a mid-range motherboard costs less than a higher specced chip alone.
 

Sinistral

Member
It's a little disappointing to see that the RX500 series of GPUs weren't launched alongside these CPUs. While I think these are great mid-range CPUs. Anandtech has a nice varied set of benchmarks including different GPUs. It is a missed cross promotion opportunity, as well as possible lost sales due to people probably building new computers around these processors. Even with the rumours of them being released next week, they're just that, rumours.


On a personal note, with the 604 bios for the Asus B350M-A, I've been able to boot my G.Skill TridentZ 3200 14-14-14-34 2x16GB ram at 2666 with correct timings. Last bios revision allowed me to use it at 2400.
 
LinusTechTips - Ryzen 5 Review

Their simulated 1600X wasn't far off the actual results, in some cases beaten by the real deal. Minimum frames are kinda staggering in their For Honor testing. 1500X has the highest performance per dollar, even without overclocking.
i7 3770K vs R7 1700 in For Honor:
·feist·;233606587 said:



Just saw the benchmark, I'm still baffled why the fuck AMD didn't launch this earlier.

The R5 1600x totally destroyed the i5 in gaming and i7 7700k in productivity along with its own brother the R7 1700.

That's it, I'm getting the R5 1600x and you should too.
Ryzen 3 and Ryzen 5 will sell more than Ryzen 7. It takes longer to bin R3 and R5 (from R7 dies), while amassing a large enough inventory of those chips to support the higher demand they will naturally attract.

AMD have said for years their next arch would target higher end performance, not only mainstream or lower. This includes a focus on CPUs ahead of Zen-based APUs, along with the launch of the Ryzen 7s ahead of the rest of the product line.



Would you guys say a 1600/"1600x is a decent enough jump from a 4690k?

I do a lot of music production and the 4690 struggles in vst heavy sessions


I have been considering moving to a 4790 for a whole but held off for this.
Depends on your budget and length of time you intend to keep the system. Consider how much a used i7 4790K would cost, and what amount of performance increase it will give you in the music production programs you use, compared to the amount of performance increase you may get from a Ryzen 5 or Ryzen 7 CPU.


Scan Pro Audio [YouTube] —— AMD Ryzen for Music Production : First Look

Image-Line [YouTube] —— FL Studio | Sacco on Core i7 vs Ryzen 7 1800X CPU Performance for Music Production

SadowickProduction [YouTube] —— Ryzen Thoughts & Audio Workstation CPU Buyers Guide 2017
 

Toe-Knee

Member
·feist·;233736067 said:
i7 3770K vs R7 1700 in For Honor:




Ryzen 3 and Ryzen 5 will sell more than Ryzen 7. It takes longer to bin R3 and R5 (from R7 dies), while amassing a large enough inventory of those chips to support the higher demand they will naturally attract.

AMD have said for years their next arch would target higher end performance, not only mainstream or lower. This includes a focus on CPUs ahead of Zen-based APUs, along with the launch of the Ryzen 7s ahead of the rest of the product line.



Depends on your budget and length of time you intend to keep the system. Consider how much a used i7 4790K would cost, and what amount of performance increase it will give you in the music production programs you use, compared to the amount of performance increase you may get from a Ryzen 5 or Ryzen 7 CPU.


Scan Pro Audio [YouTube] —— AMD Ryzen for Music Production : First Look

Image-Line [YouTube] —— FL Studio | Sacco on Core i7 vs Ryzen 7 1800X CPU Performance for Music Production

SadowickProduction [YouTube] —— Ryzen Thoughts & Audio Workstation CPU Buyers Guide 2017

Thanks for those links I'll read them when the little one is in bed. Currently a used 4790k is more than a new 1600x here by about £60. If probably just go for the 1600 though.
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/64r0hj/thanks_nvidia_for_letting_ryzen_5_look_bad/


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thelastword

Banned
·feist·;233742191 said:
Lol, there's so much flips and flops all over the internet since the ryzen's launch...Some guys cant get their ram at 2666 mHz, some can get it to 3600Mhz. Some can't get the chips to 4GHz, whilst some can get them to 4.1Ghz.....

Just last week I saw Intel leading in Overwatch, but now with updated bioses etc.., well this week I see Ryzen has a good lead in Overwatch, it has a lead in Metro, it has a huge lead in Crysis 3, a huge lead in Civilization 6 Dx11....

In some benches Ryzen leads in watchdogs 2, GTA..other tech sites show differently...


Yet, there's something wrong with Dx12 performance on Ryzen coupled with an NVidia chip, there's a big issue currently, since intel outpaces Ryzen with that type of setup....

The only thing that has stayed consistent though is that Ryzen is the best chip for synthetics, production software and it has the best frametimes across many games..(which leads to smoother gameplay overall)....

Out of all the tests I've seen so far...This one is the most comprehensive that's I've seen thus far..
 
The 1600 is the deal. $220 and it includes very decent stock cooling that is good for 3.7ghz-3.8ghz.

Fantastic performance for the money.
 
Assuming that the overclocking potential of the R5 1600 matches the R7 1700 (ie you can trivially overclock it up to the X variant), I can quite easily see myself buying one. Certainly, even in Brexit Britain, a 1600 + B350 motherboard + fast Ryzen compatible RAM generally winds up cheaper than a i5 7600k + z260 motherboard + CPU cooler + whatever RAM.
 
Damn Ryzen 5's looking nice alongside Ryzen 7, but I guess if I want to do a 144hz 1440p PC build I'm still going to have to go for a 7700k. :(
 

thelastword

Banned
lol nope unless you want to downgrade


1600X looks somewhat ok but 1400 is hilarously bad at it's price since at stock it competes more with Pentium and i3 than i5 Kaby. Even at 4,1 it can't consistently outperform i5 7400

https://www.purepc.pl/procesory/test_procesora_amd_ryzen_5_1400_konkurent_intel_core_i5_7400
i have not seen many tests between these two, but you realize that the 1400 is $169 whilst the 7400 is $182 ( actually if you go on Amazon right now it's actually $205).....
 

Datschge

Member
There are benches where R5 1600X outperforms R7 1700. So I guess the same will be true with the best Ryzen 3 model versus R5 1400.

To be honest I find it somewhat odd that AMD included 4c8t models in Ryzen 5, but I guess they want to emphasize the difference between including SMT (R5 and 7) and not (R3) even though focusing on the number of cores suits Ryzen better so far.
 
As someone with a 290x, i'm thinking going R5 1600 or R5 1600x may be a nice upgrade to my old 2600K.

Just waiting a bit for motherboard bios and such to stabilize, and to see if the 500 series is worth an upgrade.

But still, this looks like a good price to performance chip.
 

Datschge

Member
I will eventually have to build a 3D content creation box to learn Z-Brush. Down to 1700 vs 1600. $80 for 2 more cores...
You mean 1700 vs 1600X? Because 1600 is $110 cheaper. 1600X has the same base/turbo clock (and thus single thread performance) as 1800X. And 1700 comes with a cooler including RGB lights (while 1600X comes with no cooler, unlike 1600). =P
 

CaLe

Member
I will eventually have to build a 3D content creation box to learn Z-Brush. Down to 1700 vs 1600. $80 for 2 more cores...

Considering the number of years you'll be using that PC, I really don't think losing 2 cores for 80$ is worth it.

I may be biased (I went with the 1700), but that's what I would do in your situation.
 

dr_rus

Member
Yeah I saw these benchmarks and was confused - what is going on here?

NV's driver being not optimized for Ryzen yet. Although the fact that 1060 is slower than 480 in 1080p in DX9 even on Intel is rather baffling and may actually point to some application issue.
 

turmoil

Banned
I would like to see a clock-per-clock 1400-1500x comparison just for giggles. It would be interesting to know if the full L3 is a performance boost with only 4 cores or the extra cache hits aren't quite significant

Edit:

So for gaming (specifically VR) a 7700k is still the best CPU, right? I just bought a 1080 Ti if that makes any difference.

Yes, it is.
 

dr_rus

Member
ok...? And why would that be?

I struggle to think of any reason why RX480 would be faster than 1060 in DX9 game in 1080p. Such games are mostly ROP limited these days and 1060 have 50% more of them. The game may be doing something which doesn't work well with Pascal's color compression and thus we're looking at bandwidth limitation but then again - hard to believe that being the case in 1080p. All in all, both cards should perform similarly here as the CPU must be the main limiting factor.
 

thelastword

Banned
I guess Intel is still the way to go if you're only into gaming (which also have better cost x benefit)
I dont see it, better frametimes in your games, the ability to stream smoothly...Yes, some games may have higher averages on intel, but even in those games we're talking about 190 frames vs 175-180 on Ryzen with better minimums and less stutters ...I think's that better gaming overall....Afterall, average framerates only tell half the story...

Further to that, most people game at 60Hz on PC and even if you did game at 120Hz or 144Hz, you would be just fine with higher minimums and less stutters...Also, I'll advice anybody looking to build a new rig to consider the advantages of Ryzen going forward, because you may just do more than gaming on your PC and in the future more games will utlize the untapped cores of Ryzen CPU's....So rushing to build a 7700k skylake system because it does 300fps average on a 2015/16 title with lower minimums is looking at things a bit one-sided and you may regret such a purchase 6 months down the road...
 
Nvidia being a little biatch.
Jokes aside, there's no evidence this was malicious on Nvidia's part.
Remember Windows OS, along with several games and various PC programs (from simple malware scanners to professional software suites) have yet to receive Ryzen optimisations. Some will/already have, others won't.

Some software is more "agnostic" than others. Still, developers across the board have had ~6-7years to target Intel's evolving architecture through their own tools, or via options such as Intel C++ Compiler
(ICC), Intel VTune Amplifier, developer relations, etc. Nvidia and ATI/AMD have done this with their GPUs for years.

Windows has received multiple updates to improve Intel hyper-threading performance alone. Depending on who you ask, Windows may or may not have already begun receiving Ryzen updates as well.


It's in Nvidia's business interest to optimise for Ryzen. I doubt they're all that concerned with the RX 500 series launch, but would be surprised if they haven't made at least basic improvements by the time RX Vega launches.


I guess Intel is still the way to go if you're only into gaming (which also have better cost x benefit)
The i7 7700K is a different price class, so that isn't a simple, straightforward conclusion. Ryzen 5s compete with the range of locked and unlocked Core i5s and certain Core i3s.

More consistent or reliable online multiplayer benchmarking tools would also be very helpful.


Note, Tech Report and TechPowerUp used only Nvidia GPUs for their testing.

 
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3DMGame —— Strength of lifting i7-6800K! AMD Ryzen 5 1600X Processor Evaluation! [Chinese]


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3DNews —— Review AMD Ryzen 5 1600X: Core i5-7600K, move over! [Russian]


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4Gamer —— Ryzen 5 1600X,Ryzen 5 1500X [Japanese]


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AdoredTV [YouTube] —— The Ryzen R5 1600X and R5 1500X Review - A Game of Two Halves


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Adrenaline —— AMD Ryzen 5 1400: CPU is one of the best products for a commercially available PC Gamer [BR-Portugese]
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Adrenaline [YouTube] —— Ryzen 5 1400 in games: see the new AMD CPU's performance in games. [BR-Portugese]


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AnandTech —— The AMD Ryzen 5 1600X vs Core i5 Review: Twelve Threads vs Four at $250


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Ars Technica —— Game patches boost performance on Ryzen, showing just what can and can't be done - Optimization for Ryzen is happening, and it's helping, a bit.


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Benchmark.pl —— AMD is Attacking The Middle Segment - The Ryzen 5 1600X and 1500X Processor Test [Polish]


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Bit-Tech —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600X Review


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Bitwit [YouTube] —— RYZEN 5 REVIEW! 1600X, 1500X, i5 7600K, 7500


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Chiphell —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600X & 1500X Evaluation [Chinese]


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El Chapuzas Informático —— Review: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 [Spanish]
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El Chapuzas Informático —— Review: AMD Ryzen 5 1400 [Spanish]


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ComputerBase —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600X, 1600, 1500X & 1400 Test: Kings of the Middle Class [German]


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Crit [YouTube] —— Ryzen 5 1600X & 1500X Definitive Benchmarking (VS Intel)


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der8auerder8auer [YouTube] —— AMD is BACK! Ryzen 5 breaking 6-Core records. OC to 5905 MHz (6C/12T)


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eTeknix —— AMD Ryzen R5 1500X Quad-Core AM4 Processor Review
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eTeknix —— AMD Ryzen R5 1600X 6-Core AM4 Processor Review


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EXPreview —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600X Processor Evaluation [Chinese]


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ExtremeTech —— AMD's Ryzen 5 1500X and 1600X reviewed: Taking the fight against Intel to the midrange market


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Gamers Nexus —— AMD R5 1600X, 1500X Review: i5's Fading Grasp
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Gamers Nexus [YouTube] —— AMD R5 1600X, 1500X Review: i5's Fading Grasp


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Golem —— AMD Ryzen 1600X Test: The Nearly Perfect Desktop-Allrounder [German]
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Golem —— AMD Ryzen 1500X Test: AMD Competes with Intel's Quad-Core Powerful [German]


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Guru3D —— AMD Ryzen 5 1500X and 1600X review


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[H]ardOCP —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600 & 1400 CPU Review


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Hardware Battle —— Processor | [Review] AMD Ryzen 5 Series, optimized performance and attractive price [Korean]


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Hardware Canucks [YouTube] —— Forget the Intel i5 ... Buy a RYZEN 5!!
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Hardware Canucks —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600X & 1500X Performance Review


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Hardware.fr —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600X, 1600, 1500X and 1400 in test


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Hardware.Info —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600x and 1500X review: affordable 4- and 6-core models [Dutch]


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Hardware Unboxed [YouTube] —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600X & 1500X Review: Real Enthusiast CPUs!


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HD Tecnología —— Review AMD Ryzen 5 1600X [Spanish]


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Hexus —— Review: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X and Ryzen 5 1600X (14nm Zen)


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HotHardware —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600X And 1500X Processor Review: Affordable Zen Takes On Core i5


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iXBT.com —— Processor AMD Ryzen 5 1600X: Return of The "People's Six-core"


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Jagat OC (Jagat Review) —— AMD Releases Ryzen 5: All Models overclockable, 6-Core ranging from 219 USD [Indonesian]


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Joker Productions [YouTube] —— Ryzen 5 1600X vs i5 6600K | SAME CLOCK SPEEDS
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Joker Productions [YouTube] —— Ryzen 5 1600X vs i5 6600K | 720p Low Settings


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Kitguru —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600X (6C12T) CPU Review


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lab501 —— Review AMD Ryzen 5 1600X & AMD Ryzen 5 1500X


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LanOC Reviews —— AMD Ryzen 5 CPUs


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Legit Reviews —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600X and 1500X Processor Reviews


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LinusTechTips [YouTube] —— Ryzen 5 Review - AMD Fans REJOICE!


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MyDrivers.com —— 6-core Victory! AMD Ryzen 5 1600X First Evaluation [Chinese]


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NCIX Tech Tips [YouTube] —— Ryzen 5 1600X, 1600, 1500X, and 1400 benchmarked


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NordicHardware —— Test: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X and 1600X Ryzen 5 - Intel's dominance is over [Swedish]


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Les Numériques —— Ryzen: The great Return of AMD in Processors - Big Progress, But is That Enough? [French]


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Overclockers.com —— AMD Ryzen 5 1500X and 1600X CPU Review


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Overclockers Club —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600X & 1500X Processor Review


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Overclock3D (OC3D) —— AMD Ryzen 5 1400, 1500X and 1600X CPU Review
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OC3D TV (Overclock3D) [YouTube] —— AMD Ryzen 5 1400 1500X & 1600X CPU Review


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Paul's Hardware [YouTube] —— RYZEN 5 REVIEW! 1500X + 1600X Gaming Benchmarks vs 7600K


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PCGamesHardware (PCGH) —— Ryzen 5 1600X and 1500X tested: The best CPUs up to 300 euros [German]


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PCGames N —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600X review: the most significant gaming CPU AMD have ever made


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PCLab.pl —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600X and Ryzen 5 1500X Test: Ryzen Enters the Middle Segment [Polish]


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(DIY) PConline —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600X First Test: 2K buy 6-core! Price hike i7? [Chinese]


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PC Perspective —— The Ryzen 5 Review: 1600X and 1500X Take on Core i5
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PC Perspective [YouTube] —— The Ryzen 5 Review: 1600X and 1500X Take on Core i5


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PCPop.com —— Six-core Strong Debut: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X Processor First Evaluation [Chinese]


PC Watch (Impress) —— Test 6 cores 12 threads "Ryzen 5 1600X" that can be purchased from 30,000 yen [Japanese]


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PCWorld —— Ryzen 5 review vs. Core i5: Ryzen 5 1600X wins for best mainstream power CPU


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PurePC —— AMD Ryzen 5 1400 CPU Test - Intel Core i5-7400 Competitor [Polish]


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ServeTheHome —— AMD Ryzen ”Working" With VMware ESXi 6.5
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ServeTheHome —— AMD Ryzen 5 1400 Linux Benchmarks and Review – Less Impressive
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ServeTheHome —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Linux Benchmarks and Review: Get this one


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SweClockers —— Test: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X and 5 1500X [Swedish]


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Tech City [YouTube] —— Ryzen 1600x Vs. i5-7600k Overclocked in Gaming & Productivity - Who Wins What?


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Tech Deals [YouTube] —— Ryzen 5 - Launch Review - 8 Games Tested


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Tech of Tomorrow [YouTube] —— AMD Ryzen 5 1500X & 1600X Performance Review!


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TechPowerUp —— AMD Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5 GHz [4-core/8-thread]
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TechPowerUp —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6 GHz [6-core/12-thread]


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The Tech Report —— AMD's Ryzen 5 1600X and Ryzen 5 1500X CPUs reviewed, part one


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TechSpot —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600X & 1500X Review


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Tek.no —— Test AMD Ryzen 5 1600x and Ryzen 5 1500X: Finally AMD's Long-awaited "People's Model" - But you should go for four or six cores? [Norwegian]


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Tom's Hardware —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600X CPU Review


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TweakPC —— AMD Ryzen 5 1500X and 1600X on MSI B350 Tomahawk in the test [German]


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TweakTown —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600X and 1500X CPU Review


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Vortez —— AMD Ryzen 5 1400 & 1600 Review


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VR Zone —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600X & 1500X Review


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WCCF Tech —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600X 6 Core / 12 Thread CPU Review With ASRock X370 Killer SLI AM4 Motherboard
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WCCF Tech [YouTube] —— Overclocked 6 Core Showdown | Ryzen 5 1600x v Core i7 6800k


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XFastest —— AMD Ryzen 5 1600X processor test report / mainstream battlefield multi-core attack [Chinese]


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Zol —— People's Price, Flagship Performance: Ryzen 5 First Test [Chinese]
 

Steel

Banned
So it sounds like the 1600 and 1500 trade blows with the 7600k at cheaper price points. Also sounds like a 1400 isn't something people should be looking at unless they really wanna go budget.
 
NV's driver being not optimized for Ryzen yet. Although the fact that 1060 is slower than 480 in 1080p in DX9 even on Intel is rather baffling and may actually point to some application issue.
That turned out to be jumping to the wrong conclusion, by the way. The actual issue is that some games runs worse on Nvidia cards in DX12 compared to DX11. This was true six months ago, and Ryzen hasn't magically fixed it.

There may be some small performance gains to be made by Nvidia optimisation, but it's not going to be the silver bullets that will make Ryzen vastly superior to Intel in all gaming benchmarks, despite what some plonkers in /r/AMD believe.
 

Seronei

Member
That turned out to be jumping to the wrong conclusion, by the way. The actual issue is that some games runs worse on Nvidia cards in DX12 compared to DX11.

No, your comment is just wrong.

Rise of the Tomb Raider runs better in DX12 than DX11. But there's a 30% difference in DX12 in favour of i7 7700 compared to 1800x that magically disappears if you use an AMD GPU down to a few percent.

The issue was never about absolute performance, it was about difference in performance between Intel and Ryzen.
 

dr_rus

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That turned out to be jumping to the wrong conclusion, by the way. The actual issue is that some games runs worse on Nvidia cards in DX12 compared to DX11. This was true six months ago, and Ryzen hasn't magically fixed it.

There may be some small performance gains to be made by Nvidia optimisation, but it's not going to be the silver bullets that will make Ryzen vastly superior to Intel in all gaming benchmarks, despite what some plonkers in /r/AMD believe.

The game in question is DX9.
 
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