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American Soccer |OT| Life, liberty and the pursuit of the beautiful game
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And he's what? 17? I cannot wait until he gets older. Kid's gonna be a monster, I really hope he can get citizenship.
Cornballer
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.@BrianSciaretta said:
It's a co-licensing deal like they had with the Premier League previously -- Fox is letting them show some of the group stage and qualifying games. I think maaaybe some from the round of 16 as well. None beyond that though as I recall. Very good to get more games out there though.
Oh thank god
But Olave is out for yellow card accumulation
We'll likely see Armando back there...
To be fair he did look good in the CCL matches
ActStriker
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well that's interesting
Cornballer
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- SI: 'Zero chance' Henry returns to Red Bulls; Club's owners losing interest
More via the link.
Sucks that this is Henry's last season but that second piece of news...
Heeeeeere weeeeeee go
Here we go
Here we goooooooo
Heeeeeere weeeeeee go
Here we go
Here we goooooooo
smokeandmirrors
Banned
Eagerly awaiting the New York Monsters now.
smokeandmirrors
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So someone would get a team, an academy and a $200 million stadium for $300 million? I mean fuck that's a killer deal right there.
A chance for a new name/brand with NYCFC coming in could be huge too.
A chance for a new name/brand with NYCFC coming in could be huge too.
sazabirules
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RB is denying they want to sell the team.
If they've got 400 mil for a stadium they should just buy out Red Bull and use whatever profits they get to build their new stadium. Shit, at that point they'd have an MLS team, stadium, academy and a lower level team to develop talent in. It'd fix the fact Red Bull was too cheap to establish a lower level team as well. Best of all worlds for those involved.
Of course they are. No point in seeming too eager, it may drive the price down in negotiations. They've met with like 2 prospective buyers in the last few years, it's probably just a matter of price at this point.
Red Bull needs to fucking sell. If they aren't willing to spend any money on the team then they shouldn't bother with it, seriously what is with not filling that 3rd designated player spot? A good defensive pickup and we'd be killer.
MLS wouldn't allow them to buy the team if they remained set on building their stadium out in BFE.
Today's MLS expansion news...
With USL Pro title in tow, ambitious Sacramento increases push for MLS
http://www.si.com/soccer/planet-fut...o-republic-mls-expansion-usl-pro-warren-smith
SOCCER STADIUM WINS 6-1 VOTE; GOAL TO ELIMINATE PUBLIC DOLLARS
http://www.reviewjournal.com/busine...m-wins-6-1-vote-goal-eliminate-public-dollars
With USL Pro title in tow, ambitious Sacramento increases push for MLS
http://www.si.com/soccer/planet-fut...o-republic-mls-expansion-usl-pro-warren-smith
SOCCER STADIUM WINS 6-1 VOTE; GOAL TO ELIMINATE PUBLIC DOLLARS
http://www.reviewjournal.com/busine...m-wins-6-1-vote-goal-eliminate-public-dollars
Cornballer
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- MLS Analyst: More experiments? A roster for Jurgen Klinsmann and the USMNT
His roster picks:
His roster picks:
Discussion via the link.
jamesinclair
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I think closing Chivas for 2 years is a dumb move. There was a lot they could have done to drum up attendance. Why throw in the towel?
I like RB owning the red bulls. What other owner has come in and built the best soccer stadium in the USA? Nobody.
I like RB owning the red bulls. What other owner has come in and built the best soccer stadium in the USA? Nobody.
Now if only they'd spend some money on the actual team. We've had a third designated player spot open all season and they couldn't seem less interested in filling it.
Have them buy your favorite team and change their logo and tell me how you feel about it
I appreciate Red Bull for coming in and making RBA. The original plan was for a 20,000 seater with a stage on one end like the other stadiums that were being built at the time. That's fantastic. But you didn't have to change our logo, and erase our history while doing that. Own the team, be a shirt sponsor for life, whatever. But they made our club a walking billboard in the process. Not only that, but you also knew that you were just a small segment of their global soccer operations. You feel like the first McDonald's to open up in Russia. You can't wear the jersey with pride outside, and even if you did, other people will let you know that you're a walking billboard.
Fuck corporate ownership. That is all.
Fuck corporate ownership. That is all.
jamesinclair
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Honestly the old branding sucked. New York/New Jersey Metrostars? Come the fuck on. Thats embarrassing.
And as far as brands go, Red Bulls at least fit perfectly into the American naming scheme. I think when casuals see the jersey they dont even make the connection between the team name and the brand half the time.
Better than the "New York Verizon Wirelesses"
"Fuck corporate ownership."
....didnt AEG own like half the teams in the league?
No matter how shitty you think Metrostars is, it's a million times better than Red Bull New York
Like I said, how'd you like your favorite team to be Red Bull ____ tomorrow?
And casuals don't see the connection, they think you work for Red Bull. Trust me, I know more about this than you do.
Cornballer
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Eh, he said the same about Chivas.
The lack of infrastructure for a USL Pro team says everything. Leipzig and Salzburg have fully functioning reserve teams in lower divisions.
jamesinclair
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Are you sure about that?
Because I live in New jersey...
The biggest problem I see is the NY branding vs the NJ branding.
Pink Cows ownership > Robert Kraft
NY/NJ was dropped in 2002
They should've just kept Metrostars and had the two bulls as a jersey sponsor.
If any motherfuckers want to tell me that RBNY is better than Metrostars watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MTUI12bLZc
Rafa=FedKilla
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Loving these rumblings outta Harrison and Austria. It's only a matter of time. American soccer too extreme for them.
Ok, do you wear the jersey outside?
If you don't I'll give you my 2006 home, signed by Jozy Altidore and tell me the reactions you get.
I don't wear the jersey but I wear the track jacket sometimes and the comments I get are anywhere from:
"They'll always be Metro to me!"
or if I go to a pupusa spot and they ring me up somebody'll go
"What'd you have to drink? Let me guess, a Red Bull."
Have fun wearing it to soccer bars in the city like Nevada Smith's or Red Lion.
jamesinclair
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I actually have two red bull shirts, a red one and a blue one. Both were free when I went to a game. I use the red one pretty frequently.... never had ANY comment, of any kind.
It's a pretty sleek shirt.
If it meant playing in a real soccer stadium in the city...
I guarantee youd get 90% YES vote.
Well I get plenty of comments when I wear my Metro shirt and my Red Bull jacket
Positive for Metro
Negative/Indifferent for Red Bull
jamesinclair
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The fact that people recognize the team is a good thing.
Ask ten people in Boston about the Revolution and you'll get blank stares. The awareness of the team is barely higher than that of the Cannons.
Go to a Revs game, and 90% of the "fans" are linked with youth soccer. Kids + parents that dont give half a shit. It rains and you get 4,000 people because the kids stay home.
At least the bulls draw real people, and arent considered a substitute for the latest Marvel movie.
And if you ask ten people in Manhattan who the Red Bulls are, people would give you a blank stare. I just happen to live in a Latino, soccer-centric area. But from the people who DO know about the team, they hate on corporate branding. NYCFC is most likely going to destroy our attendance despite their shitty stadium setup.
ActStriker
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No thanks.
I believe the Krafts when they are trying to look and explore options to build a stadium in the city, but the options aren't there. This is why it was huge when Suffolk Downs announced its closure, because it put a giant tract of land in play, with T access already there. The problem with a proposed Somerville location was always the need for the GLX project for the T to be completed.
I mean, it's not a slam dunk. Look at the situation NYCFC is in.
jamesinclair
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Thats because its a NJ team and should be branded as such.
Again, the problem isnt the RB part, its the NY part.
And if you ask ten people in Jersey if they'd rather be RBNJ or Metro/Garden State FC/whatever NJ based
They'll take the latter
jamesinclair
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Given the choice between...
a) Be the NJ Metros, and play in Giants stadium and have no Dps... (aka, the Revolution)
or
b) Be the Red Bulls, have the best soccer stadium in the country, and have three DPs...
Id think most would choose b.
Because that's the real choice. You cant have the dream scenario because it's not realistic.
NY got the best stadium because of the brand. NY got the best players because of the brand. RB put in a shit ton of money because it was an advertising expense. Remove the primary advertising method (the team name) and wtf would they put in so much money?
Because it's in the largest market in the richest country in the world?
If Red Bull didn't come in somebody else would have.
Don't be naive.
Just an FYI, we have 2 DPs. They seemingly refuse to fill that last spot.
ActStriker
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Revs have DPs too.
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