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American Soccer |OT| Life, liberty and the pursuit of the beautiful game
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Yeah, this is rough. I fucking love this guy. Goddamn onions...
The man deserves better than he got, that's for damn sure.
smokeandmirrors
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What did Petke say? I could only tune in to the last minute he was on ("Guys I'm not dead").
Well, I called in (Chris from Uptown Manhattan). Glad I got to vent a little.
What was the question?
What was the question?
He said that he couldn't elaborate on a lot of the things they wanted to talk about. But he was clearly hurt and on the verge of tears and it sucks to hear a man so broken. I'd imagine this was his dream job, and it was stripped from him.
DC just lost two of their coaches. Would Petke take a job with Ben Olsen?
It wouldn't surprise me.
smokeandmirrors
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god that sounds so rough, I can't even imagine.
I'm skipping the first home game this year in protest, so I wouldn't be shocked if others did the same. Shit, maybe we should see if we can organize such a thing. That'd be sure to make the news and put some pressure on Red Bull.
The Culture Vulture
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Is anyone from the board going to the town hall/airing of greivences thingy?
My plan is to get midfield seats on Stubhub and hang a Red Bull Out banner so it's clearly visible on TV. Will probably get snatched from me but it's worth a shot.
smokeandmirrors
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godspeed.
Only 300 golden tickets so I doubt it.
If there is a protest outside I will be there.
I hope that the Red Bull OUT campaign grows larger and eventually the other teams in the league chime in. Stories like Red Bull, Chivas, and NYCFC/Man City are a blight on the league as a whole.
I know Montreal fans always put up banners against corporate takeover when we play them. Portland hangs a Metrostars banner in the TA section when we play them too.
I know Montreal fans always put up banners against corporate takeover when we play them. Portland hangs a Metrostars banner in the TA section when we play them too.
Ali Curtis lays out his vision for the New York Red Bulls
Pretty general stuff so far but hard to argue with much of it... NYRB have certainly done a terrible job integrating homegrown players so far.
Pretty general stuff so far but hard to argue with much of it... NYRB have certainly done a terrible job integrating homegrown players so far.
Last time I checked the we in a club is the fans and the area that the club represents. Without us the club goes bankrupt and does not exist. However, the quote makes it clear that by "we" Curtis is referring to Austria. They are so detached it's not even funny.
Fans were perfectly fine with the way the team played because most of the fans are fucking blue collar and enjoy toughness. Why else would the fans love a fucking bar brawler like Luke Rodgers?
shoplifter
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Love to hear how the league explains cocking up the Mix to Columbus deal, then no more than two months later getting him to NYCFC.
ActStriker
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Garber magic!
It's finally over
I can't tell if this is a Photoshop or what (not the background, the actual head of Mix)...something is off about his eyes. It's kind of a weird looking photo, haha. Good for NYCFC to get this sorted now -- ready for the hundred jokes about him being "loaned" to Man City now.
shoplifter
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Oh convenient. We were top of the allocation order when we tried to get him and had to use it on Kamara.
edit: and what the hell, not a DP? NYCFC have $600k+ in allocation money lying around, assuming they matched our offer?
edit: and what the hell, not a DP? NYCFC have $600k+ in allocation money lying around, assuming they matched our offer?
ActStriker
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Mix isn't even a DP?
Cornballer
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.@SoccerByIves said:
Well if Mix is not a DP there goes my earlier criticism of the move...
Wonder who their third DP will be? Will they wait until the summer and go after De Rossi?
I'm REALLY struggling to see the conspiracy here....
That Mix to Columbus deal falling apart had nothing to do with MLS?? Every report was that Mix's shady dad kept making more and more demands:
But hey let's just ignore the facts and blame MLS for everything...
Wonder who their third DP will be? Will they wait until the summer and go after De Rossi?
I'm REALLY struggling to see the conspiracy here....
That Mix to Columbus deal falling apart had nothing to do with MLS?? Every report was that Mix's shady dad kept making more and more demands:
And finally Columbus got sick of it. And Mix would have been a DP at Columbus with a much higher salary than he'll have with NYCFC, obviously he was willing to take a pay cut to be in NY where he could properly utilize his hat collection. That's just the reality, not something MLS has created, players are going to prefer to play in markets like LA and NY to Columbus and Salt Lake City... And as for why NYCFC, they were at the top of the allocation ranking after Orlando chose the top pick in the draft.
But hey let's just ignore the facts and blame MLS for everything...
I feel like I've seen it before with some slight changes.
shoplifter
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Just because he's not a "DP" doesn't mean he isn't making a DP salary. It'd take a lot of allocation to pay him what was offered in Columbus, but apparently expansion clubs get a large sum of Garberbux which could put this in the realm of possibility. Granted that lets them sign another "real" DP, at least until next year when the allocation buydown expires.
The allocation order (which Columbus was at the top of when trying to get Diskerud in August) is basically a joke, because it's actively circumvented by the league on an annual basis to make sure someone goes where the league wants. It's essentially a pointless list, allowing a club to get who might be available at the time, unless they league doesn't want them to go there.
We also know that the league approves DP contracts and payment of transfer fees (Christ, the league paid the transfer fee for Dempsey - essentially handing Seattle $9m.) Did Columbus walk away when Mix's loan shark dad wanted more? Maybe. Quite possibly. Maybe the league (who do have a guy in charge of negotiating deals, fyi) didn't want Precourt to up his offer any more, or knew that Mix would probably be available on a free in a few months and the league could just put him on whatever club they wanted. We don't know for sure, and because of the "use it or lose it" allocation order, Columbus ended up using their allocation spot on Kei Kamara. Having just re-signed Pipa, I don't think we actually need Mix anymore, but that's really not my point.
All I'm saying is that it's time for the league to be completely transparent with respect to transfer activitiy. Was this all above board? Maybe, but the league has proven over the past few seasons to be relatively obfuscatory with how some of the big transfers have happened.
Just let the teams negotiate these deals with whatever player(s) they want. If they don't want to come to small markets, so be it. Let those clubs sign South American players at a relative bargain. Get rid of allocation, it's only used when it's convenient for the league anyway. At least with a completely open market for players, it eliminates even the implication that the league got involved. I think we're at the point where the league isn't going to fold, and no one is stupid enough to go out and have a club full of Beckenbauers & Chignalias.
shoplifter
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We can all agree on that.
Well, Parent Company's Subsidiary needs to win back some goodwill from the city somehow and I suppose this is a start.
My dad will be glad to hear Mix ditched to mustache.
They've done that already. They stick everyone on a billboard. That's what happens when you have money to blow.
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