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American Soccer |OT| Life, liberty and the pursuit of the beautiful game
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We just don't have a Bobby Bonilla (tho Lothar Matthaus is close) or any MLS Cups
Yea, but at least we make the playoffs.
2006 was a long time ago. Coincidentally the year of Red Bull.
Are you talking about the Mets here or Red Bull? Because I was referring to Red Bull. We made the play-offs last season, unless that was a fever dream.
Both. Mets haven't made the playoffs since 2006. Red Bull bought Metro in 2006
Yea we got our streams crossed there.
Delicious Waffles
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I just put a bunch of random players on my team for the time being. I'm going to fix it up as the season gets closer and more information becomes available. It's tough to construct something so early.
If they make the playoffs, I'd be shocked. Nine years is too long.
sazabirules
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Maybe that's it. I saw that he was on a two year deal and they didn't extend his contract. It wasn't due to a big salary either.
It's not about needing that model to survive as a young league but not now that they're viable, being considered single entity is something any American sports league would want, second only to an exemption from anti-trust laws like baseball has.
I'll re-post an article from a few days ago:
MLS players want free agency; MLS owners dont. Faced with a standoff, history says the league wont blink first
Some form of free agency (limited and by another name) should be possible under MLS' structure (and in any case MLS would have a much stronger defense if challenged as they could point to the hundreds of other professional soccer leagues), but from their perspective it's understandable why they're reluctant to do something that may open it up to a challenge.
Note NFL tried to claim single entity for their branding and the Supreme Court shot it down in 2010. Court: NFL is 32 teams, not one entity
If they make the playoffs, I'd be shocked. Nine years is too long.
I'm optimistic about that second wild card slot, nothing more.
I'm less optimistic about Red Bull selling
Since it was so cold out I wore my Red Bull track jacket to work today. I work amongst a mostly blue-collar football/baseball crowd. Everyone's reaction was like "Ooh" at the jacket then "Ugh" at the Red Bull logo. Wasn't sure if it was the soccer or the Red Bull or both that gave them that reaction.
However, that won't be for long. I am replacing the logo with a Deportivo FAS patch.
I find this confusing:
What about Sebastian Jaime, isn't he a DP? So they have four DPs but only two will count as DPs because they bought the others down, so they can add a third?
What about Sebastian Jaime, isn't he a DP? So they have four DPs but only two will count as DPs because they bought the others down, so they can add a third?
Delicious Waffles
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Ugh. Went through my fantasy team, played around with it for about 45 minutes, hit "make transfers," and it brings me back to the main page with my old team staring me in the face. Just spent another 45 minutes fixing it back up since I forgot the initial edits. Definitely isn't the team I came up with on the first attempt. This time it went through. Yay...
Avaya Stadium to host World Rugby Pacific Nations Cup
They talked about eventually starting up a rugby team and a women's soccer team to fill dates at the new stadium, so hosting this event will test the local demand for rugby...
I'm not really interested in rugby but if they're serious and this means women's soccer comes to the bay area that would be great.
In other news, they finally put in the goals and lines, and people are speculating that the field is 75 yards wide even though Kinnear preferred 70 in Houston
They talked about eventually starting up a rugby team and a women's soccer team to fill dates at the new stadium, so hosting this event will test the local demand for rugby...
I'm not really interested in rugby but if they're serious and this means women's soccer comes to the bay area that would be great.
In other news, they finally put in the goals and lines, and people are speculating that the field is 75 yards wide even though Kinnear preferred 70 in Houston
I support Milan Soccer Club but I'll be following Kaka wherever he goes, how is he doing?
Oh wow I can't believe this:
“A lot of my team-mates at Milan said ‘Please take me with you. I would like to play in America.’ I still get a lot of messages that some players want to join me here. Players in Europe are looking at MLS in a special way now.”
Not in a bad way but I guess this explains all the troubles Milan is going through.
Still though I'd be happy follow Kaka's team, what can Orlando City SC fans tell me about their team and city since I'm thinking of moving to Orlando (or Miami)??
Oh wow I can't believe this:
“A lot of my team-mates at Milan said ‘Please take me with you. I would like to play in America.’ I still get a lot of messages that some players want to join me here. Players in Europe are looking at MLS in a special way now.”
Not in a bad way but I guess this explains all the troubles Milan is going through.
Still though I'd be happy follow Kaka's team, what can Orlando City SC fans tell me about their team and city since I'm thinking of moving to Orlando (or Miami)??
PrematureQuiche
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Hey guys, i've never really posted here before and I hope you guys don't mind me jumping in to ask a question. I wanted to ask now so I could get some answers in case this thread somehow gets deleted and football is banned from this whole forum
I've been doing some travelling to see some football games across Europe and would like to add a MLS game to the list of leagues I have seen. I did have tickets to a Toronto FC game but with some family illness I had to miss it. So if you could only recommend one MLS team to see who would it be? I hear a lot of people saying Seattle Sounders elsewhere.
Cheers Guys!
I've been doing some travelling to see some football games across Europe and would like to add a MLS game to the list of leagues I have seen. I did have tickets to a Toronto FC game but with some family illness I had to miss it. So if you could only recommend one MLS team to see who would it be? I hear a lot of people saying Seattle Sounders elsewhere.
Cheers Guys!
Hey guys, i've never really posted here before and I hope you guys don't mind me jumping in to ask a question. I wanted to ask now so I could get some answers in case this thread somehow gets deleted and football is banned from this whole forum
I've been doing some travelling to see some football games across Europe and would like to add a MLS game to the list of leagues I have seen. I did have tickets to a Toronto FC game but with some family illness I had to miss it. So if you could only recommend one MLS team to see who would it be? I hear a lot of people saying Seattle Sounders elsewhere.
Cheers Guys!
Seattle, Portland and Kansas City have the best fan experiences I think.
Marc
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Hey guys, i've never really posted here before and I hope you guys don't mind me jumping in to ask a question. I wanted to ask now so I could get some answers in case this thread somehow gets deleted and football is banned from this whole forum
I've been doing some travelling to see some football games across Europe and would like to add a MLS game to the list of leagues I have seen. I did have tickets to a Toronto FC game but with some family illness I had to miss it. So if you could only recommend one MLS team to see who would it be? I hear a lot of people saying Seattle Sounders elsewhere.
Cheers Guys!
Erm... what happened to FootyGAF? Thread closure doesn't exactly give many clues.
Oh and err Freddy Adu is a beast.
II wouldn't rate Kansas City for a tourist merely because of the lack of transit options. Don't you have to park in a lot a bit away from the stadium and take a school bus? That is, if you get to the area in the first place.
Seattle and Portland seem like the best for someone coming from elsewhere.
Metro is great if you know the right person and go to the right game. If you don't have anyone to go with who can show you the ropes, it's a long train ride to an industrial wasteland with a Five Guys and a beautiful futbol stadium.
ActStriker
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They're new to MLS.
All NFL contracts are with the team though, not the league IIRC. That's the main difference.
My friend's cousin moved to Orlando. He said he got so bored he developed a coke addiction and fucked a watermelon once.
My neighbor's niece is from Orlando. She told me that if I ran out of cigarettes I could smoke a rolled up piece of paper towel and it'd suffice.
At school I'm in a group project with a beautiful girl from Orlando who has little cuts all over her hands. She said she developed the habit in high school in Florida.
Wtf is really good down there?
My neighbor's niece is from Orlando. She told me that if I ran out of cigarettes I could smoke a rolled up piece of paper towel and it'd suffice.
At school I'm in a group project with a beautiful girl from Orlando who has little cuts all over her hands. She said she developed the habit in high school in Florida.
Wtf is really good down there?
It's not bad. The furthest lot is about 3/4s of a mile and they do offer free shuttle buses (real buses with real seats). It's right next to the Speedway and Community America Ballpark (where we used to play for a season or two) and the whole thing is on the intersection of two of the major highways here. The whole area there has been developed so there's like, I don't know, +25 food places and a movie theater and a shopping area and 3 hotels in the complex the call The Legends. It's not a little development.
Downtown is only about 10 mins away on I-70. and the Plaza is like 5 minutes south of that. It's easy to get around, but yeah you're going to need to rent a car or stay with someone who has one. I've never ridden the city bus system here so I can't speak to it's quality, but we're in the Midwest so we're spread out so that means it's easier to have a car.
I was reading a little interview with Jack Byrne who is a youth player for Man City. Look at this info about his offseason training regimen:
This is the level of competitiveness that Jurgen is undoubtedly expecting. Obviously a 17 year old kid has more energy than someone 10 years his elder, but you want the guys to be striving like this.
This is the level of competitiveness that Jurgen is undoubtedly expecting. Obviously a 17 year old kid has more energy than someone 10 years his elder, but you want the guys to be striving like this.
Orlando is undoubtedly quite a bit different than NY but I never found it to be weirdly boring or anything. It's just like every other city in that it's what you make of it. I'd love to live back home but my wife wanted to move out of Florida so we left when she finished school and haven't looked back.
R.e. Orlando City as a team: This is the first year in MLS after playing at a lower level for a few seasons. The team was very successful and has built a nice sized fan base. A Brazilian owner came in and became the majority owner as he was able to finance the move to MLS -- it took awhile to get the stadium bill passed but there was strong support from the Mayor of Orlando as well as the Mayor of Orange County and so it eventually happened.
The team is playing in the Citrus Bowl this year (where they've played before) which is used for American football primarily -- there are two college football bowl games played there every year as well as some other things like high school state championship games and the occasional neutral site game for colleges. It's an older stadium that was pretty run down so they did major renovations to it and it's looking much better now. A new stadium will be ready in time for the 2016 season.
The team has played a few friendlies thus far and done well. There's only about 6 or 7 guys who made the jump up from USL (the lower tier division the team was in before) with most of them being fairly young. Orlando City has signed a lot of foreign players who are new to the league so on paper, it seems like there's a really good chance of the team doing well. We'll see how well they acclimate to the new league. The head coach is a former pro from the Premier League (Adrian Heath) who spent time at Everton, Stoke and Man City. The minority owner was a longtime board member at Stoke City as well -- there was some level of partnership between the clubs but I think it was mostly just a verbal thing.
jamesinclair
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Hey guys, i've never really posted here before and I hope you guys don't mind me jumping in to ask a question. I wanted to ask now so I could get some answers in case this thread somehow gets deleted and football is banned from this whole forum
I've been doing some travelling to see some football games across Europe and would like to add a MLS game to the list of leagues I have seen. I did have tickets to a Toronto FC game but with some family illness I had to miss it. So if you could only recommend one MLS team to see who would it be? I hear a lot of people saying Seattle Sounders elsewhere.
Cheers Guys!
I wouldnt travel to a specific city to see an MLS team, Id plan a trip to a city and see the team while youre there.
So if you go to NYC, the Red Bulls are easy to each via transit. Seattle, also, and DC. DC and NYC also have the best stadiums in MLS.
Philly and Boston are great to visit, but the stadiums are not easy to get to.
You wouldnt want to visit Kansas, Dallas, Columbus etc anyway.
Tbh, I really like visiting KC a lot. nice city, great people, wouldn't mind living there. But then again I'm a barbecue nut.
Dallas too.
Colombus though.....
PrematureQuiche
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Cheers guys.
I have a family member who works for an airline so I get super cheap flights. So I'll probably fly out for a weekend and a game. It's what I've done for the European games so it'll probably be the same here. I'll try and work out where I want to go. Thanks again!
Yeah, it really depends on where you want to visit the most. Personally, if you're a huge footy guy I'd try and catch two games; one game in Portland and one in Seattle. They're only like 2 1/2 hours apart by train, so you can definitely figure out a way to catch a game at both places. As far as Portland goes, try and get a GA seat in the Timbers Army, the local support group. Additionally, we have one of the best public transit systems in the country so you won't really have to worry too much about getting around. Where are you going to be visiting from?
Also, sometimes we do some cool shit.
Cornballer
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- Jeff Carlisle @ ESPN: MLS, players union agree on minor issues in CBA talks, source says
PrematureQuiche
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from the UK. as I said I had tickets to go to a Toronto FC game with another GAF guy already in Canada but couldn't make it.
jamesinclair
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Yes thats a good idea. Also east to do on east coast.
One of my friends from London visited a Timbers game with me last year, he had an absolute blast. Where in the UK you from? I lived in Sheffield for a year a while ago.
PrematureQuiche
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I live in Farnborough. Just an hour out of London.
Ah, cool. Send me a PM or something if you make your way to a Timbers match, I somehow managed to get a season ticket this year so I'll be there for every game.
PrematureQuiche
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Will do. This is very early planning but I'm hoping for this MLs season.
Dallas officially added Michael Barrios and Philly Fernando Aristeguieta.
Most teams are probably through making big moves, aside from maybe Colorado and Montreal as both have publicly talked about adding DPs...
I'm a little confused by the LA Galaxy not adding another midfielder. They lost Donovan and Sarvas, and they have Gerrard coming mid-season, but they didn't get Kljestan... so are they really going with two bench players starting in their midfield for half the year?
Most teams are probably through making big moves, aside from maybe Colorado and Montreal as both have publicly talked about adding DPs...
I'm a little confused by the LA Galaxy not adding another midfielder. They lost Donovan and Sarvas, and they have Gerrard coming mid-season, but they didn't get Kljestan... so are they really going with two bench players starting in their midfield for half the year?
smokeandmirrors
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I fully expect part of Abba's Fernando to be made into a song that we sing whenever he scores.
http://www.gfycat.com/NearFrayedGull
Miguel Ibarra cutting up the Sounders reserves.
Why doesn't this guy have an MLS contract yet?
Miguel Ibarra cutting up the Sounders reserves.
Why doesn't this guy have an MLS contract yet?
Because we fucked up. :/
Avaya Stadium to host World Rugby Pacific Nations Cup
They talked about eventually starting up a rugby team and a women's soccer team to fill dates at the new stadium, so hosting this event will test the local demand for rugby...
I'm not really interested in rugby but if they're serious and this means women's soccer comes to the bay area that would be great.
In other news, they finally put in the goals and lines, and people are speculating that the field is 75 yards wide even though Kinnear preferred 70 in Houston
I can't wait to see what that stadium looks like with fans in it.
First pre-season game is the 28th right?
^ Yeah, next Saturday. Soft opening with just 10k tickets available vs the Galaxy.
Because Ibarra is under contract with Minnesota United and they're not just going to give him away for nothing. Minnesota just re-signed Christian Ramirez as well, who imo is even better than Ibarra. I don't think MLS has ever paid a transfer fee for a lower division player, but even if they wanted to, the other side has to accept. Minnesota's owner is a billionaire, how much would it take to pry away the PR coup of having a guy who has been called into multiple national team camps from them? Almost certainly far more than he's worth. The best hope of him joining MLS is Minnesota United being awarded the expansion team there.
If its anything like Red Bull's stadium it should be amazing.
Duane Cunningham
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The Kansas you don't really want to visit would be the state of Kansas. Kansas City is a great city.
Kansas City ≠ Kansas
just as
Philly and/or Pittsburgh ≠ the rest of Pennsylvania.
bonesmccoy
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I'd like 2 things to change in the MLS:
- Higher base/minimum salary.
Not $600,000 like the NHL (the 'smallest' of the big 4 NA pro leagues), but something like $60,000 or $80,000. At least make it so that these guys don't have to work off-season jobs to have a decent life and support a family.
- More DPs
6 per team.
- Higher base/minimum salary.
Not $600,000 like the NHL (the 'smallest' of the big 4 NA pro leagues), but something like $60,000 or $80,000. At least make it so that these guys don't have to work off-season jobs to have a decent life and support a family.
- More DPs
6 per team.
One of your suggestions would ruin the other. The revenue isn't quite there yet to have both.
Duane Cunningham
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Well, sure, there's also a Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. I'm saying the "why would you want to go to Kansas" stigma shouldn't apply to Kansas City.
Like, if I heard somebody say "ugh, I have to spend a week in Illinois, I'll be so bored", I'd assume they didn't mean they're going to be in Chicago. I'm not talking actual geography.
Bonus Points: Using some Moneyball to make your fantasy picks
Eligible for the US national team: 3/4
Called in to January camp by Klinsmann: 0/4
all between the ages of 23-25 too...
Eligible for the US national team: 3/4
Called in to January camp by Klinsmann: 0/4
all between the ages of 23-25 too...
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