Amplitude (Harmonix) PS3/PS4 - KS (Funded, final day)
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Dragonborn
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I don't see why Sony is even part of the conversation. This is a harmonic kickstarter, Sony doesn't even have anything to with this. I'm just a bit confused about the reactions here
MmmSkyscraper
Unconfirmed Member
Backed for $20!
Except that 750 goal doesn't include licensed tracks. Only self made harmonix tracks. If they get overfunded, then we'll see licensed music.
This.
SolidSnakex
Member
They tried that with Rock Band Blitz. Don't remember it? Well, that's why they aren't trying a spiritual successor again.
outunderthestars
Banned
Not interested in helping a well funded developer fund a game. I would much rather pledge my money to smaller developers who couldn't fund the game any other way.
Exactly! IP is/was dead.
This is the chance (thanks to Harmonix) to revive it.
AlphaTwo00
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Well, it does sound like Sony has ownership of the IP. In that case, I do get the expectation of them taking part financially. If this is Harmonix' initiative though, it could be all on them if Sony wasn't interested in bringing it back.
PSYGN
Member
Same here!
Would you buy an Amplitude sequel if it was funded traditionally?
Dragonborn
Member
Which is what seems likely. Sony isn't required to fund every game simply in the basis of it being exclusive.
The game doesn't have licensed tracks (they are a stretch goal) . Its on two platforms which has plenty of multi-platform engines available to it to make development much easier. I agree that Harmonix have lots of talent but 700k is a lot of money for a vendor specific game on kickstarter.
bananafactory
Banned
I don't see the big deal. If you back it you get a copy of the game, and if it reaches its funding goal, then Harmonix has validated that the interest in the game justifies it's existence.
Win win?
Win win?
Backed. Regardless of supposedly how much money a company has, if they feel that Kickstarter is the best way to get a niche game made and released (and demonstrate demand), then so be it. Besides, I trust Harmonix to actually make the game, unlike some Kickstarters that haven't managed to get anywhere.
outunderthestars
Banned
Depending on the price...sure.
Nymphae
Banned
You get the game for the first two tiers?
So if I'm backer 1001 and I pledged $15, do I get the game, or do I have to pay for it again?
Well, Harmonix houses professional musicians, they aren't cheap. Even if their team is no bigger than around 15-20 people, they'd easily spend that <800k by February 2015.
If all of the alloted 1000 early bird price tiers are gone, no, you don't get it for 15$ (and they won't even let you pick that reward tier, so you can't accidentally pay 15$ and not get the game). At that point you'd have to pony up a few more dollars to be able to pick the next tier.
maquiladora
Member
Cool.
If you only paid $15 you would not get the game since it was limited to the first 1000, but if you paid $5 more you would get the game.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Because tying yourself to one platform if the platform holder doesn't have a stake in the project is usually a pretty bad decision.
Mind, I'm not arguing anything here. Harmonix is free to do what they want.
$15 is the early-bird discount pledge. When those have expired you'll have to go up to the $20 tier, which is unlimited.
I'll agree that any tier that doesn't give you the product in a Kickstarter is B.S. and I'd probably never do that personally.
I stand corrected, but even then, composing, recording & mixing, what, a hefty 25-30+ songs (I hope it's at least that many) isn't necessarily all that cheap if they want the soundtrack to sound halfway professional.
Well, Amplitude on PS2 was, what, $40? $50?
How about $20 for the PS3 & PS4 versions together?
Already up to $55k.
It is odd indeed.
Harmonix isn't as rich as you might think. They've had numerous rounds of layoffs since the last Dance Central.
Yeah that's one of the main reasons why I want this to succeed. Could make it more likely for other risky franchises to be revived. Then again it could be abused quite easily, *cough* EA *cough*.
AlphaTwo00
Member
Just curious: did you think when Double Fine did it for The Broken Age?
Would people really be against it if, say, Matsuno got the permission to use Tactics Ogre IP freely from Square Enix (and got at least some of the original team together) if he just gets the funding himself through Kickstarter? If SQEX is unsure if there's still enough interest in the franchise to make their level of production profitable, why should the IP rot in SQEX's abandoned IPs dungeon if there's outside interest in taking the IP and trying to do something with it?
To be fair, Rock Band Blitz was pretty weak, between the social game aspects and the fact that hitting notes didn't actually affect whether the tracks played or not.
Plus if this game brings back Remix mode then sign me the hell up.
Vire
Member
Amplitude without Garbage's Cherry Lips just seems wrong.
Don't forget the Microtransactions
I deal with game budgets on a regular basis and I think this is too much. I believe their Dance Central, Fantasia and Rock Band budgets have muddied their understanding of game budgets.
Obviously we don't have visibility into their budgets and salaries and licensing fees and whatnot, so it's all speculation, but I definitely disagree with your assessment. There's not a whole lot of new tech needed here. The team size needed to make a high production Amplitude is not massive. With so much original team in place, they're surely making high senior level salaries, but it still seems like too much for this.
Drop the PS3 or move it to a stretch goal (behind a Vita version). Assemble the team using a nice mix of senior and junior guys. Low ball your cost estimates because you know there's internal money and Sony money that will help get this through to the end. Put the higher cost licensing tracks in some DLC to pass that price along. And please remove all the "avatar" related stuff (I had completely forgotten about that until watching the video) - not necessary. Just do what you can to lower initial costs.
I think their goal should have been more in line with gauging interest and not overfunding their entire passion project. I want this game to succeed. I do. I just believe they're asking for too much.
SpasilliumX11
Member
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I see what you mean, but their pitch consit's of we want to make a new amplitude, heres some concept art, give us money. Why don't we have more information about what they would do with the $700,000, why dont we have a solid number of songs. why isn't there a prototype? now I'm not doubting Harmonix's ability and I understand that they this is just amplitude HD, but it would still be nice to see a 1 level prototype, to see what music styles they want to go with, as well as any tweaks to the gameplay they might make. It also shows they they have made some legwork already and it brings in the possibility that they may have already shown something to publishers and it got turned down. It just feels like they started a kickstarter on the whim that something might happen.
I wasn't paying attention to KS back then and I wouldn't call Double Fine a big developer. It just seems weird to be funding a game from a company that is getting their next game published by Disney.
maquiladora
Member
This will get funded, don't worry.
StealthGoblin
Banned
What is Sony's position on this? Is this an actual Amplitude game (Sony IP) or an Amplitude-esque game.
Either way I've backed it. Loved the original amplitude.
Either way I've backed it. Loved the original amplitude.
Quadraphonic
Member
OMFG PLEASE make this happen! That PS2 styled case is mines! I want it in my collection
You're missing the POD demo disc.
I'm okay if Sony doesn't put any coin towards this. I could be wrong but to me, Amplitude was always a tad niche. Crowdfunding seems like a good way to go about this project.