Ancient Aliens: New Nin. 3DS now offers the best SNES emulation on any handheld
- Thread starter Rich!
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Impossible. It doesn't have access to do that.
ISee
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I am so going to do this now! Thx.
Erin S Kittens
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I found out the hard way that you can screw up and make it _seem_ like you've bricked it, but if that happens, all you have to do is remove the SD card, start it up, reinsert the card, delete the Youtube app, redownload it, and start the process anew.
Hitoribhoshi
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(N3DS here) ok so I tried the latest nightlies as .cia (need to be fw 9.2 or under) this time to see if there was any speed improvement over .3dsx, well not that I can tell really :
Sonic3 is still full speed.
Yoshi's Island on snes is 45-60 fps (more like around 50-55 most of the time)
Star fox is like 25-30
"normal" games are full speed though. (Chrono Trigger/Super Metroid)
Super Puzzle Fighter 2X on cps2 was fullspeed too^^ (wanna try progear now
)
Parasite Eve on PCSX ReARMed : 45-50fps (managed to load a 2 year old RetroArch android savestate (7hours in), nice!)
by the way Circle Pad Pro is definitely working as left-right on Jugement Silverword on Wonderswan was mapped on RZ - LZ by befault. (and the R-stick works when mapping)
(you can use analog circle and R-thumb as 2nd Dpad : settings>input>analog to digital (up and down are reversed and need to be re-bound (+-1(left analog) and +-3 (C Stick) in input user binds))
something is still wonky with Left analog 100% down, as it goes up :\
Rich : can you help me with rotation ?
I tried to set it to 90 or 270 and get a mirror effect.. (180 is fine though, but not really what I'm looking for here lol)
Sonic3 is still full speed.
Yoshi's Island on snes is 45-60 fps (more like around 50-55 most of the time)
Star fox is like 25-30
"normal" games are full speed though. (Chrono Trigger/Super Metroid)
Super Puzzle Fighter 2X on cps2 was fullspeed too^^ (wanna try progear now
)Parasite Eve on PCSX ReARMed : 45-50fps (managed to load a 2 year old RetroArch android savestate (7hours in), nice!)
by the way Circle Pad Pro is definitely working as left-right on Jugement Silverword on Wonderswan was mapped on RZ - LZ by befault. (and the R-stick works when mapping)
(you can use analog circle and R-thumb as 2nd Dpad : settings>input>analog to digital (up and down are reversed and need to be re-bound (+-1(left analog) and +-3 (C Stick) in input user binds))
something is still wonky with Left analog 100% down, as it goes up :\
Rich : can you help me with rotation ?
I tried to set it to 90 or 270 and get a mirror effect.. (180 is fine though, but not really what I'm looking for here lol)
MagnetoWned
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Wow this is awesome! Question though, is there anyway to get a SuperCRT shader like you can get on SuperRetro16 on Android?
Hitoribhoshi
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please state your fw ver 
(pretty much every fw support ythax, but my gues is you are on 9.9) (if you are on 9.3 or above might as we update you n3ds to 10.1)
http://smealum.github.io/3ds/ (click on youtube and follow the instructions)
just put retroarch core on your SD Card in /3ds/, run the homebrew menu via youtubehax.
(or for ease of use, install homemenuhax via youtubehax, then run the homebrew menu by turning your n3ds on and holding L)
MagnetoWned> I didn't see the shader option on the 3DS port yet. (that being said the resolution being a lot lower than most android device kinda makes it tough)
(pretty much every fw support ythax, but my gues is you are on 9.9) (if you are on 9.3 or above might as we update you n3ds to 10.1)http://smealum.github.io/3ds/ (click on youtube and follow the instructions)
just put retroarch core on your SD Card in /3ds/, run the homebrew menu via youtubehax.
(or for ease of use, install homemenuhax via youtubehax, then run the homebrew menu by turning your n3ds on and holding L)
MagnetoWned> I didn't see the shader option on the 3DS port yet. (that being said the resolution being a lot lower than most android device kinda makes it tough)
Conrad Link
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I'm really impressed how well CPS2 stuff runs on my N3DS XL.
gingerbeardman
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What CPS2 games are you playing? I'm playing Mighty! Pang
Conrad Link
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X-Men vs Street Fighter at the moment, an old fav of mine!
thechristoph
Sir!
Anyone having trouble with SNES games not behaving properly after loading a save state? I'm playing Final Fantasy 6 and whenever I restore a state, the next encounter fails to load in. Like if I'm on a map, the state will load, but when I encounter an enemy, the screen just stays black instead of loading in the battle.
Other games like Super Castlevania IV just run extra slowly after restoring a state.
I'm on the 9/29 nightly but this issue was present back to 9/26 or so. 9/29 rules by the way, you can turn the bottom screen off with a tap!
Other games like Super Castlevania IV just run extra slowly after restoring a state.
I'm on the 9/29 nightly but this issue was present back to 9/26 or so. 9/29 rules by the way, you can turn the bottom screen off with a tap!
PassiveObserver
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Super Puzzle Fighter 2X on cps2 was fullspeed too^^ (wanna try progear now
You serious? Game-changer right there.
I've had similar experiences. I think the save state functionality isn't rock solid yet. I remember reading about ePSXe save states, years ago, that it's recommended you save states from a screen with not much going on (something like the menu screen where you access items, equipment, etc. for instance). Then afterwards, you load state while on that screen.
Ex.
1. Save state on menu screen right before a boss
2. Lose fight
3. Reload from save point, open menu screen then load state
I don't know if this helps any in practice, though.
Honestly, set the screen to 8:7 with integer on and you don't need it. you don't get the bulge but you get nice pixel perfect images without blur.
kamikazekoala
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I'm completely lost. Installed themehax, but that retroarch doesn't seem install friendly to me. 
Added a bunch of files on my SD card, but doesn't seem to do anything. How do you install and run it on the N3DS?
Added a bunch of files on my SD card, but doesn't seem to do anything. How do you install and run it on the N3DS?I'm completely lost. Installed themehax, but that retroarch doesn't seem install friendly to me.
you literally copy and paste the 3DS folder onto the root of your SD. thats all you need to do. the emulators then appear in the homebrew launcher.
The newest retroarch builds (nightly updates) are here: http://buildbot.libretro.com/nightly/nintendo/3ds/
unzip them with 7zip.
PassiveObserver
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I'm completely lost. Installed themehax, but that retroarch doesn't seem install friendly to me.
If you've installed themehax, then you've been to the homebrew launcher. If your retroarch cores are extracted in the 3ds folder, the emulator cores should appear on your homebrew menu.
Edit: Beaten by Rich of course.
So how many of these other emulators work like a charm on N3DS? Going to add some CPS2 but does the Genesis/PCEngine resolution fit the 3DS screen 1:1?
get ready to get your mind blown by my next video (full speed gba emulation)
uh, as soon as it uploads that is
Have you tried getting Mother 3 to work on any of the emulators? They all seem to hang for me after selecting it.
kamikazekoala
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Yes, done. Thank you for your patience. I didn't copy the build directly on the root, but just in one of the folders, that's why they didn't show up, silly me.
it works perfectly in the newest build of retroarch gpsp.
Best Nintendo Fan Ever
Banned
Combined with this and the horrible state of Wii U VC; it proves to me that Nintendo doesn't know how to do emulation correctly at all.
Got MCD working great in GPGX, renaming the bios worked! Played through the first level of Keio and it was flawless outside some voice echo on the cutscenes.
Now I've got everything going except NeoGeo in FBA, which seems to crash no matter what bios package I stick in there. :/
Now I've got everything going except NeoGeo in FBA, which seems to crash no matter what bios package I stick in there. :/
Rollo Lawson
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So is this the wrong thread to request instructions?
Nah, I'll update the OP.
I really didn't want the thread treading on the toes of the general 3DS homebrew thread, but that's a monster of a thread and this is more emulator-centric (like my retroarch OT)
edit: hm. the instructions are already in the OP. Just follow the links.
Rollo Lawson
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The instructions in the OP are incomplete. I did all that and don't even see any emulators except a GBA emulator, then I can't even get that to run.
what? I have absolutely no idea where you got that from. The OP contains a link to the retroarch nightlies. These contain all the emulator cores.
See? Download the newest nightly (todays is the 29th, of course), extract with *.7zip or similar. Copy the 3DS folder into the root of your SD. Done. Bear in mind the GBA gpsp core requires a GBA bios file (gba_bios.bin) to run. That goes into SD:/retroarch/cores/system
Rollo Lawson
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what? I have absolutely no idea where you got that from. The OP contains a link to the retroarch nightlies. These contain all the emulator cores.
See? Download the newest nightly (todays is the 29th, of course), extract with *.7zip or similar. Copy the 3DS folder into the root of your SD. Done. Bear in mind the GBA gpsp core requires a GBA bios file (gba_bios.bin) to run. That goes into SD:/retroarch/cores/system
Thank you! This is what should be added to the OP
Can you tell me if you did something special while setting this up, cause on my end Wario Land 4 drops to 50fps during most 'Hurry Up!' portions of the game and MKSC has a bad case of hickups during races breaking the 60fps pretty regularly. I'm not sure if you were exaggerating by calling it locked 60fps or you just meant most of the time.
Minish Cap and F-Zero do run well constantly on my end. All the games I tried that aren't on your list ran very subpar so far, making gba emulation pretty meh so far for me.
Rollo Lawson
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Not to be contentious but the only instruction in your OP is this:
I followed the very clear instructions in the first link and got the homebrew launcher working.
I then clicked your second link, saw a list of files and was stuck.
I'm not the only one who asked for clarity here. I hope you don't honestly believe you were very clear...
Anyway thank you for finally helping
Another video, this time GBA emulation.
https://youtu.be/wbJ2gc_Yx6E
Using the 29th September nightly build.
Games shown:
1. Super Mario Advance 3: Yoshi's Island
2. Mario Kart Super Circuit
3. Metroid Zero Mission
4. Wario Land 4
5. Kirby: Nightmare in Dreamland
6. Zelda: Minish Cap
7. F Zero: Maximum Velocity
https://youtu.be/wbJ2gc_Yx6E
Using the 29th September nightly build.
Games shown:
1. Super Mario Advance 3: Yoshi's Island
2. Mario Kart Super Circuit
3. Metroid Zero Mission
4. Wario Land 4
5. Kirby: Nightmare in Dreamland
6. Zelda: Minish Cap
7. F Zero: Maximum Velocity
Correct! I understand that is was originally a mobile app, but as it is I don't use retro arch for anything because it's such a pain in the rear on PC.
? That isn't the case. Retroarch was developed for PC and then mobile devices much later.
It's designed to be navigated purely with a controller, not keyboard and mouse.
Erin S Kittens
Member
Yup. I couldn't stand Retroarch until I got a wireless 360 pad and suddenly everything worked like intended. Now I swear by it.
PassiveObserver
Member
Woah my mind broke at the thought of how many games I'd have to play now on the N3DS. Anyways, I did hear some audio crackling. Does this issue ever go away with further work on Retroarch?
I noticed the same thing, but tbh, I had experienced similar thing emulating on android and I think even pc.
Rollo Lawson
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I've watched this 3 times waiting for my wife to give me back my 3ds...curse you Happy Home Designer...
ss_lemonade
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I think the 3ds would have a tough time running fullspeed with these shaders, but I guess that depends on what shaders are used.
ScrabbleDude
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I figured out that the cause of my problems is that Retroarch doesn't seem to like my games being zipped -- unless I don't understand how to handle this properly. Also, it doesn't seem to like smc files.
thechristoph
Sir!
The 9/30 nightly adds support for the zL and zR buttons! I bound them to fast forward for the NES emulator and it works. Not yet for CatSFC, but it's super cool to see the little things get added day by day.
Eck, that's even worse, because I find that the control scheme is terrible with the controller. I was forced to use the controller, naturally, and the whole thing was slow, awkward, and unintuitive.
Yes, I have that turned on. Seems to be saving whatever changes I make, just not keeping them separate on a per-core basis. Trying the latest nightly to see if that makes a difference.
Hitoribhoshi
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(tried Marvel vs Capcom and Progear no arashi, both run at fullspeed, guess it's safe to say CPS2 stuff runs like that all across the board. wish they'd port more of the Final Burn Alpha system like CPS3, PGM, Cave gen1, etc well, all of them (CPS3 was too demending for PSP though, which could run CPS2/NeoGeo fine))
something you should add to the OP :
- make sure you have a correct gba bios (and state the md5 of gba_bios.bin)
- if you get a blackscreen test your bios and roms on Retroarch on another platform (windows/android for example)
because you will get horrible performance from a faulty one.
- might wanna add this https://github.com/libretro/RetroArch/commits/ to follow changes (is it possible to filter to see only 3DS related stuff?
- also those a nighlies with verbose debug on by default...for you to read them ? missing a file ? well the bottom screen tells you where it's expecting it for example.
sörine>haven't tried NeoGeo yet myself... are you sure you're running the right fba version of the dumps?
something you should add to the OP :
- make sure you have a correct gba bios (and state the md5 of gba_bios.bin)
- if you get a blackscreen test your bios and roms on Retroarch on another platform (windows/android for example)
because you will get horrible performance from a faulty one.
- might wanna add this https://github.com/libretro/RetroArch/commits/ to follow changes (is it possible to filter to see only 3DS related stuff?
- also those a nighlies with verbose debug on by default...for you to read them ? missing a file ? well the bottom screen tells you where it's expecting it for example.
sörine>haven't tried NeoGeo yet myself... are you sure you're running the right fba version of the dumps?
Rollo Lawson
Banned
Played FFTA almost 3 hours last night. I guess I'm about to finish it an 8th time...