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[The Faceless Master]

"they're using an LCD screen, which is simply an inferior technology." - Iqbal Arshad, one of Moto's top engineers

Minus the god awful Super AMOLED screen and Touchwiz lol.

and how many GS4s did you try out?

 

[BertramCooper]

Should be interesting to see how closely the design of the Nexus 5 mirrors the G2, assuming the G2 is the basis of the 5.

 

[MiKeD]

Xperia V? I don't know where you live but I jusr bought one to replace my HTC One and it was $400NZ so about $280 US. (Plus, waterproof)

Belgium. The V costs over 400 Euro, so that's almost twice the price you mentioned lol.

Why can't we get the Nexus cheaply straight from Google Play or something. Hate that shit.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Should be interesting to see how closely the design of the Nexus 5 mirrors the G2, assuming the G2 is the basis of the 5.

it would go against google's own words considering they've said they want to focus on devices that aren't huge and all that. Honestly I expect the nexus 5 to be very close to the moto x in a lot of ways.

Or not. Hard to tell.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Google should base the Nexus 5 on the Premier 2013 Android Mobile Flagship Handset, the Samsung Galaxy Note III


instead, i'm expecting a Nexus 4 refresh that's just the Moto X hardware running stock AOSP

 

[Groof]

Google should just make a phone not based on anything.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Google should just make a phone not based on anything.

that actually makes sense, they should do that again.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Google should base the Nexus 5 on the Premier 2013 Android Mobile Flagship Handset, the Samsung Galaxy Note III

 

[Groof]

I think they've got a clear enough vision of where android is heading to make a proper Google phone now, that not only takes advantage of the software but contains hand picked hardware that they think would be best suited for the task.

 

[BertramCooper]

Google should base the Nexus 5 on the Premier 2013 Android Mobile Flagship Handset, the Samsung Galaxy Note III


instead, i'm expecting a Nexus 4 refresh that's just the Moto X hardware running stock AOSP

The Moto X and the Nexus serve completely different purposes. The Moto X is a mass market device, while the Nexus is a niche product.

I can't imagine they'll have much in common, even if it the Nexus 4's successor ends up being made by Motorola (which I doubt). Unless Google wants to completely piss off the Nexus' already small target audience, it will be much more powerful than the X.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Google should just make a phone not based on anything.

Moto X? It's the first phone designed and manufactured completely by Google.

 

[Liquidus]

"they're using an LCD screen, which is simply an inferior technology." - Iqbal Arshad, one of Moto's top engineers
and how many GS4s did you try out?

Just needed one.

The awful stuttering with 4.2 and smeared blacks was enough for me.

 

[Groof]

Moto X? It's the first phone designed and manufactured completely by Google.

Developed in conjunction with and manufactured by Motorola, so no, not really.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Motorola is Google and has been since the conception of the X.

They're like a first party game developer now.

 

[Groof]

Yet they're not treated as such. This whole Motorola/Google relationship fucks with my head.

 

[-PXG-]

Minus the god awful Super AMOLED screen and Touchwiz lol.

TW is shit, but custom ROMs and launchers fix that.

...


instead, i'm expecting a Nexus 4 refresh that's just the Moto X hardware running stock AOSP

+1

Moto X? It's the first phone designed and manufactured completely by Google.

Joke post?

 

[Vyse The Legend]

Motorola is Google and has been since the conception of the X.

They're like a first party game developer now.

No. Good spin, though.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

No. Good spin, though.

It's fact. Google bought Motorola. They're no less Google than Blogger, or YouTube.

 

[Cipherr]

No. Good spin, though.

Well its not designed by Google, not fully influenced either, they have said we won't see that direction fully until the phones next year. But its clear that the X is the start of the breakaway from the old Moto and into the new Google Motorola. Its a start but they have indeed said that the full transition will be more apparent with next years phones after the completely clear the pipeline.

 

[Vyse The Legend]

It's fact. Google bought Motorola. They're no less Google than Blogger, or YouTube.

Still no. Repeating the same statement doesn't make it any more true. See the response below your comment from Cipherr, which is more accurate.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Yet they're not treated as such. This whole Motorola/Google relationship fucks with my head.

It doesn't matter what they're treated as. As far as the gov't is concerned, they are now Google.

"A Google company."

They kept the brand, but it's still a Google company. See also: Blogger, YouTube, AdMob.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Google

Moto is just another company on the list.

 

[gcubed]

Still no. Repeating the same statement doesn't make it any more true. See the response below your comment from Cipherr, which is more accurate.

You repeating the opposite doesn't make you right. Andrex is right and cipherr is wrong, the X is the first googlerola phone. They've repeatedly said such

 

[The Faceless Master]

You repeating the opposite doesn't make you right. Andrex is right and cipherr is wrong, the X is the first googlerola phone. They've repeatedly said such

Google and Motorola are lying!

when they finally release something good that means the pipeline is clear and 100% googly.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Google and Motorola are lying!

when they finally release something good that means the pipeline is clear and 100% googly.

So the pipeline is 100% Googly then, because the X is releasing.

 

[FUBAR McDangles]

Thinking about getting a Nexus 7 Tablet tomorrow with some birthday money. Don't suppose there are any good writing apps available? Is the touch good enough to do some drawing? Any good apps for that?

Otherwise it'd mainly be an internet/game machine. No desire to watch TV or movies or take pictures on it. Worth it?

 

[Junior Mint]

Wouldn't recommend any tablet for writing unless you're buying a bluetooth keyboard with it.

 

[The Faceless Master]

So the pipeline is 100% Googly then, because the X is releasing.

people count that?

 

[ThatObviousUser]

people count that?

All the reviews say it's good. That doesn't meet your criteria?

"when they finally release something good"

 

[The Faceless Master]

All the reviews say it's good. That doesn't meet your criteria?

"when they finally release something good"

but...

 

[ThatObviousUser]

I'll take that as a yes. Welcome aboard #TeamXFON, Faceless.

 

[The Faceless Master]

I'll take that as a yes. Welcome aboard #TeamXFON, Faceless.

no, that was a "some of the reviews say it's good but..." and then state reasons why it's not good and sweep them under the rug because

 

[vdlow]

OK, Moto X aside... where's my Hangouts SMS support?

 

[ThatObviousUser]

I've seen 8/10s from basically every review that puts a score at the end, and the closing comments don't ever contradict calling it a "good phone."

 

[SirMossyBloke]

$600 for a "good phone"? I'd rather pay $600 for "great phone".

 

[ThatObviousUser]

"A good phone by any other price would smell as sweet."
- Shakespeare

 

[SirMossyBloke]

"A good phone by any other price would smell as sweet."
- Shakespeare

Oh shit. That changes everything.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

And thus SirMossy joins #TeamXFON as well.

 

[Cipherr]

You repeating the opposite doesn't make you right. Andrex is right and cipherr is wrong, the X is the first googlerola phone. They've repeatedly said such

Look... I mean, Im basing my posts off of what executives from Google themselves have said. Im not completely sure whether or not anyone here has any inside sources that say or prove otherwise, but this is what they have said:

http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/28/google-cfo-says-the-motorola-pipeline-doesnt-wow/

http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/28/4...torola-pipeline-arent-wow-by-google-standards

Common wisdom would suggest that executives talk up their existing device lines to keep customers buying until the next generation is ready. Leave it to Google CFO Patrick Pichette to think outside the box, if not necessarily for the better. He told guests at the Morgan Stanley Technology Conference that the current roster, while good, doesn't "'wow' by Google standards" -- it reflects the 18-month device pipeline that fell in Google's lap when it acquired Motorola last year. As such, we won't see the full fruits of collaboration until Google has owned Motorola for long enough to put its own spin on products. While the remarks stoke the fires of anticipation for any future flagships, they may have unintentionally produced an Osborne Effect: however advanced Motorola's phones will be in the near term, customers may still have the nagging suspicion that something better is just around the corner.

When questioned on where things stand with Motorola at the moment, Pichette didn't mince words. "We've inherited 18 months of pipeline that we actually have to drain right now, while we're actually building the next wave of innovation and product lines," he said. Google executives have mentioned these prior commitments in the past, and Pitchette's comments suggest we've yet to reach the pipeline's end. "We have to go through this transition. These are not easy transitions."

They have gone as far as to say that the first efforts of those collaborations won't be all that significant in terms of 'wow' factor, but that it would improve over time. 18 months from the time of those quotes would put us right about in 2014.....

So... I mean.... where are you getting that its wrong? Unless you all are debating strictly on whether or not Motorola is owned by Google. That much is a fact, the only thing I was commenting on is where the first Moto devices (the X) stood in regards to Googles influence on the hardware and software.

 

[brotkasten]

Beats is looking to drop HTC.

Beats By Dre Looks to Drop HTC

The fledgling audio-products company is now in talks with an investor that could provide debt financing and possibly take a minority ownership stake in the coming weeks, the people familiar with the matter said. Beats also hopes to buy out struggling Taiwanese smartphone maker HTC Corp.'s 2498.TW -0.65% 25% stake in the company.

Beats officials declined to disclose details of the upcoming investment, including the identity of the new investor. An HTC spokeswoman wouldn't comment on whether HTC plans to sell its stake in Beats.

...

Two years ago, Mr. Iovine and Dr. Dre sold a 50.1% stake in Beats Electronics to HTC for around $300 million, to only a year later buy half of that back for around $150 million—a discount given Beats' substantial growth in the intervening months.

HTC incorporated audio software from Beats into a line of phones, and other phones were bundled with Beats headphones. HTC last year also provided Beats with a one-year, $225 million loan that was secured by all of Beats' assets, according to HTC's annual report.

That loan was recently replaced with an interim loan that is due in July 2014, according to an early August report from credit ratings firm Standard & Poor's, which said Beats still needs to develop "a viable refinancing plan" in the coming months.

HTC's fortunes faded amid tougher competition in the smartphone market from companies like Samsung Electronics Co. 005930.SE -0.69% HTC's shares have lost nearly 90% of their value since April 2011, when HTC was second only to Apple in U.S. smartphone sales.

While HTC originally saw Beats as a way to court the youth market, the collaboration ended up souring with differences in opinion on strategy, said a person with knowledge of the partnership.

Earlier this year, Beats approached HTC about selling its remaining stake, according to a person familiar with the matter.

online.wsj.com/article_email/SB10001424127887323423804579020692100040648-lMyQjAxMTAzMDEwODExNDgyWj.html#

 

[Groof]

Beats is looking to drop HTC.

Beats By Dre Looks to Drop HTC

online.wsj.com/article_email/SB10001424127887323423804579020692100040648-lMyQjAxMTAzMDEwODExNDgyWj.html#

And nothing of value was lost.

 

[Nicktendo86]

The Moto X and the Nexus serve completely different purposes. The Moto X is a mass market device, while the Nexus is a niche product.

I can't imagine they'll have much in common, even if it the Nexus 4's successor ends up being made by Motorola (which I doubt). Unless Google wants to completely piss off the Nexus' already small target audience, it will be much more powerful than the X.

I wish the new Nexus was based on the Moto X, would make me keeping my N4 that much easier.

 

[Vermillion]

http://www.motorola.com/us/shop-all-mobile-phones/Droid-Maxx/m-droid-maxx.html

It would seem that Motorola has finally made the DMaxx page a... well, page.

EDIT:

Also, Andrex - is the "A Google Company" branding under the logo recent? That's the first time I've seen it.

 

[zomgbbqftw]

A Sony executive in Japan basically confirmed a 4.x" version of their flagship platform (S800, 2GB RAM). Interview with Nikkei.

Q1 guys. CES reveal. The true mini Android flagship. It's coming.

 

[Nicktendo86]

http://www.motorola.com/us/shop-all-mobile-phones/Droid-Maxx/m-droid-maxx.html

Ithe "A Google Company" branding under the logo recent? That's the first time I've seen it.

Been around a couple of months, since June I think

 

[gcubed]

Look... I mean, Im basing my posts off of what executives from Google themselves have said. Im not completely sure whether or not anyone here has any inside sources that say or prove otherwise, but this is what they have said:

http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/28/google-cfo-says-the-motorola-pipeline-doesnt-wow/

http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/28/4...torola-pipeline-arent-wow-by-google-standards





They have gone as far as to say that the first efforts of those collaborations won't be all that significant in terms of 'wow' factor, but that it would improve over time. 18 months from the time of those quotes would put us right about in 2014.....

So... I mean.... where are you getting that its wrong? Unless you all are debating strictly on whether or not Motorola is owned by Google. That much is a fact, the only thing I was commenting on is where the first Moto devices (the X) stood in regards to Googles influence on the hardware and software.

Because those are from February and all the Google/Motorola quotes and stories around the reveal of the X say it was the first phone of googlerola

A Sony executive in Japan basically confirmed a 4.x" version of their flagship platform (S800, 2GB RAM). Interview with Nikkei.

Q1 guys. CES reveal. The true mini Android flagship. It's coming.

I want to get excited, I really do, but until I see a Sony phone appear in the US in a timely manner I really can't get excited

 

[Vermillion]

Been around a couple of months, since June I think

Huh. Interesting. Gotta say, though - I like it.

 

[Groof]

No matter, I look forward to the first, true Google phone with no manufacturer branding. A phone where instead of HTC, Samsung, LG or Motorola it just said Google. The true Nexus vision.

 

[gcubed]

No matter, I look forward to the first, true Google phone with no manufacturer branding. A phone where instead of HTC, Samsung, LG or Motorola it just said Google. The true Nexus vision.

That'll never happen unless there are some big changes in android land.

 

[Groof]

That'll never happen unless there are some big changes in android land.

Those days are near.

 

[zomgbbqftw]

I want to get excited, I really do, but until I see a Sony phone appear in the US in a timely manner I really can't get excited

I have heard interest in this device is very, very high. AT&T and T-Mobile should be on board (and in line with the global launch) and Sprint are still in talks. VZW are not. A bunch of regional carriers should get it also, but not at the same time as AT&T/T-Mob.