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n4 was 400 when it first came out I believe.
8gb was 300 and 16gb was 350
It's about the specs AND price. If you can get another phone that is smooth, but has a better screen and camera for the same price, then why wouldn't you do that? Unless woodgrain back and always on voice activation is that important to you.
SirMossyBloke
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Yeah it is fast. 4G is HSPA+ basically, LTE is on it own.
Took me 10 minutes of arguing with a customer about this. He bought an iPhone 4S and took it down to the states. When he was there his device said he was on 4G and when he was here in Canada it said 3G. He then came back to me complaining that we have a shit LTE network and I need to give him a new SIM card so he could get LTE over here with his 4S.
It was frustrating to say the least.
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I haven't set up anything yet. I was just getting out invites and throwing up the banner. I plan on making categories this weekend as well as switching up people's site privileges and throwing something up on the about page.
As it stands I just have the banner up and I defaulted to inviting everyone as an Author. I got two people who said they'd be editors in Talon and Wsfan. Anyone else want to be a general site editor (you can still do articles too!
)So I guess Verizon is offering better data plans for those who join their EDGE program.
6gb for 30 bucks, or 8gb for 50 bucks with tethering.
The Edge program basically sells you the phone at full price, and you pay it over 24 months.
Or, after 6 months you can upgrade, and start paying that phone off from square one.
I think I'm better off using my best buy credit card and keeping my unlimited data plan.
I just don't know how many months I get of no interest on a smart phone.
6gb for 30 bucks, or 8gb for 50 bucks with tethering.
The Edge program basically sells you the phone at full price, and you pay it over 24 months.
Or, after 6 months you can upgrade, and start paying that phone off from square one.
I think I'm better off using my best buy credit card and keeping my unlimited data plan.
I just don't know how many months I get of no interest on a smart phone.
cuevas. PhD.
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Just to clarify that's only being offered to people with unlimited data.
Yeah. Somehow 80% of the sites missed this. It's just an inducement to get people off of the unlimited plans.
I see. Yeah, I don't think I'm willing to give that up still. Not with my options.
Because, battery life > all.
And to be clear, I'm not 100% positive the Moto-X delivers on that. Currently testing, and I will continue to test for the next two weeks. If it fails, it goes back. I'm not one of those idiots that wraps up their consumer purchases with their ego
The Faceless Master
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but that clarification included LTE. so either LTE, WiMax and all HSPA+ count or none of them do and LTE Advance and WiMax are the only ones that count.
just use the phone for a month with TouchWiz. if you're still dying over it, then don't worry, it's pretty easy to get CM or the GE rom on there.
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ThatObviousUser
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What is the link to this Android Prism blog.
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Don't act like you haven't been following and don't know.
Here is the link anyways
http://androidprism.wordpress.com
Don't act like you haven't been following and don't know.
Here is the link anyways
http://androidprism.wordpress.com
Now make a twitter account to announce new posts so I could "follow" you guys.
I myself have no interest in participating as a columnist/writer as I can barely put a sentence longer than 5 words together, let alone convey any meaning through it.
The Faceless Master
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yo what up dawgs?
SirMossyBloke
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Don't act like you haven't been following and don't know.
Here is the link anyways
http://androidprism.wordpress.com
Bookmarked!
ThatObviousUser
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Is it better than the GN 4G's? Then it's good.
My N4 only consumed 15% of battery yesterday! 10 minutes of screen time and lots of 3G connections tho
The Faceless Master
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but doesn't it have 'good' battery life since the updates?
Using the GN's battery as a baseline is like using Miley Cyrus as a baseline of intelligence.
The Faceless Master
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you're setting the bar high there. she's #winning
Verizon'd
The Faceless Master
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Is it made in America?
Time to accuse The Verge of a frightening display of nationalism.
The Faceless Master
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hold up... hold up... wait a fucking second here...
dis no other review mention this?
dis no other review mention this?
yo what up dawgs?
No more claims of amazing battery life to offset the terrible camera or mediocre screen. GSMarena and Anandtech are the two battery tests I was waiting for. Battery life is good, but not omg amazing like a Razr Maxx.
I know for a fact you can capture slow motion at 720p, but I'm not sure if that counts.
Shitty build quality
Verizon bloat city
Ultra has terrible battery life
Maxx has worse battery life than the Droid RAZR Maxx
I'd say those are pretty salient reasons.
All of the Mobile and Verge show guys carry Android phones and have carried Android phones for the past year, so I don't know where the "i" even factors in.
SirMossyBloke
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There's literally no reason to get the Moto X now at the current price. They've sacrificed screen resolution and processor for no reason. It should have been for battery life, but it looks like it's not.
There's simply better phones out there.
There's simply better phones out there.
The Faceless Master
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i dunno man, their battery life measurements don't mesh with the real world, and since when has bloat or build quality meant a dip like that?
The S4 review?
They're pretty consistent in their review with the bloatware complaint, and it's always put as a con in their reviews. We nerds here can say, "Durr, just root the phone," but these reviews are for a more general audience compared to the nerd sites. They only rate the out of the box experience and, frankly, that's the only fair way to play it when you have a general audience. Anand plays to a completely different audience than The Verge and Engadget.
The one phone where their results significantly varied from the rest of the reviews was the One. The Nexus 4 battery life was pretty bad at launch, and didn't Google put out a quick update within a month that was specifically aimed at battery life improvements?
Battery life reviews are always inconsistent between all these sites because they use very different criteria. Cnet (I don't know if they do this any more after firing everyone) used to do an aggregate of video and web browsing. Anand has a really specific test that includes using mobile data overnight.* GSM Arena stupidly puts 3G talk time on equal footing as web browsing and video playback. It also doesn't help when these completely no name sites run by amateurs like Pocket Lint and Android Syrup are put on equal footing with actual known entities.
*This struck me as really silly because it really varies on your reception quality. They even SPECIFICALLY said that they had trouble testing the S4 because they were looking for LTE signal on Sprint in Atlanta. I'm sure that wouldn't affect the review at all.
shinshoryuken
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Yup, hopefully people stop crying "its not about spec!".
Well they still have "the feel" and wood grain to fall back on.
I'm not trying to play Moto-X defense force, but that test has some pretty big holes in it.
For example, a big upside is that the active notifications require less frequent screen-on time. Even after just a day of use I'm noticing this. That can't be factored into the test.
Really, you can't take something as random and subjective as battery tests and use a single system to catch everything. It's ultimately about trying to find the most well rounded approach to give some basic data points, not be a conclusive empirical stance.
Is this not apparent?
The Faceless Master
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for all their talk about how slimy and slick and snakelike and gross it felt, it still got the same "HTC ONE TOOK THE THRONE BUT THIS IS ALMOST AS GOOD" score.
when they reviewed the N4 at launch it did not have that patch.
and Sprint has some LTE in ATL!!!
i guess we can compare the other reviews of the Ultra and see if others also are reporting the same battery life divergence between it and the X.
hand feel dawg. like robust, nubile, supple virgin breasts.
I mean, let's be honest. Barely any of us has actually used more than 5 or 6 phones in the past two or three years as our daily driver.
These battery tests and spec sheets that we toss at each other are largely meaningless when we're not even interested in owning the device much less using it.
These battery tests and spec sheets that we toss at each other are largely meaningless when we're not even interested in owning the device much less using it.
The S4 also was a true flagship in terms of specs and screen quality. And camera. Motorola + Cameras = death.
That's my point.
This was back in June, and Klug said that they literally drove from all the way to Athens to Smyrna looking for LTE signal. That's ridiculous.
The only thing to look at is whether it's actually less battery life than the RAZR Maxx.
The Faceless Master
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this stuff is all always interesting to me because i'm the one everyone in my circle asks about tech.
And I imagine that's true for most of us here.
That's also why nobody in here actually gives a shit about the Droid Ultra, Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini, HTC One Mini, etc.
The Faceless Master
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but that bloatware is tailor made and focus tested for that exact audience. those are the people who they are expecting to use that shit like VZ Navigator and Voicemail to text.
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