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Doopliss

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The problem is that the phone froze while I was listening to my voicemail, and I was never able to turn it back on again after removing the battery. Nothing ever happens, even with another battery, another charger, or when I tried turning it on in recovery mode.
If you're getting absolutely zero response from the device I think it's most likely that the embedded storage (aka EMMC aka internal sdcard) is busted. It's seemingly quite common on 2011 Samsung devices. I think it's almost certain that your device would be returned with none of your data intact if you were to send it to Samsung for repair. There are services which claim to be able to recover your data in such scenarios. I believe it's called JTAG repair. I remember seeing mobiletechvideos.com being mentioned a few times, though I can't vouch for them.

There's probably a lot of info on XDA, if you're willing to dig around for it.
 

dubq

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I just got an email from Google.Play that my Nexus 5 has shipped! The order had previously had "November 6" as the shipping date - so hooray for little surprises! :)
 
If you're getting absolutely zero response from the device I think it's most likely that the embedded storage (aka EMMC aka internal sdcard) is busted. It's seemingly quite common on 2011 Samsung devices. I think it's almost certain that your device would be returned with none of your data intact if you were to send it to Samsung for repair. There are services which claim to be able to recover your data in such scenarios. I believe it's called JTAG repair. I remember seeing mobiletechvideos.com being mentioned a few times, though I can't vouch for them.

There's probably a lot of info on XDA, if you're willing to dig around for it.
Thanks !
I'll look into it.
 
It took almost half a year until Vine came for Android and that was just this year.

Apple paid EA to keep Plants vs Zombies 2 exclusive. I would not be surprised to see that scheme extend to other high profile apps. Apple want to keep the pretence going that the App Store is still better than G-Play when the reality is that they are almost identical.
 

Quasar

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Apple paid EA to keep Plants vs Zombies 2 exclusive. I would not be surprised to see that scheme extend to other high profile apps. Apple want to keep the pretence going that the App Store is still better than G-Play when the reality is that they are almost identical.

Well it is when it comes to games, or at least certain classes of games. Which is pretty much the reason I'd really struggle to justify moving from an ipad to a non ios tablet.

Not that I want to see any paying for timed exclusives.
 

Quasar

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developers often start with ios because they have a significantly smaller pool of hardware to deal with and test for. On Android, there are many devices to test for and support. Often times, small developers can't handle that work load.

I imagine part of it is the same reason the tech blog press likes Apple so much...thats what they use and so thats where they develop first.
 

Zeppu

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Nexus 10?

How come none of you care that Google potentially leaked a Nexus 10 on their android design page?
 
I agree that the play store will never catch up to the app store

Never say never. Play store, as is, is still young in ts current form. Google rebranded it and integrated it all into one last year. TV shows were just released on google play store last year and they are still missing popular shows, such as south park, seasons of family guy, seasons of sunny in philadelphia are missing on google play, as well as language and subtitle options for most movies/tv shows. They just released tv shows in Japan and UK. A newsstand is coming to google play that will most likely replace magazines. There are more and more apps coming to google play (Ratchet Before the Nexus, DQI-VIII and FFVI might release on the same day on both devices, for example). Changes take time, Android marketplace was arguably worse than the kindle marketplace prior to the change to google play. There's still a lot of work that google needs to do, but they seem to be on their way.

How comes all the good and new trendy apps always start on iOS first? I don't get that.

1. Android fragmentation. Currently 26% of Androids are still on Gingerbread and 19% on JellyBean. Kitkat is supposed to solve this specific issue. And if google can get 80% of devices on 4.0+, more specifically 4.2 or 4.3+, due to point number 2, then developers might feel more comfortable developing for it as they won't to have to develop with a whole bunch of different OS iterations in mind
2. Piracy. It's piss easy to pirate on android, as easy as downloading the apk and installing on your device. Apparently there was supposed to be app encryption on 4.0, but that was broken and supposedly fixed on 4.2. It's for sure fixed on 4.3 and 4.4. However, no apps that I see require 4.3+ due to developers wanting to get that 26% and 19% marketshare that gingerbread and JB 4.0 have
3. Revenue on iOS app store (not counting itunes movies/tv shows) are higher than revenue on android play store (possibly not counting movies/tv shows). The gap for Q3 has decreased, on Q3, iOS revenue was 2.1x bigger than android revenue, in Q2, the gap was 2.3. I believe part of the reason for people spending more money on ios over play store is the amount of content the ios app store has over play store (something that will take time to reach parity) and the amount and prominence of itunes gift card over play store. My walmart has a whole rack for itunes gift cards in the electronics section and they are also scattered around other places, near the hallmark cards, for example. Google play store GCs are only found next to the other gift cards. Also, I know some android users that don't even know that "google play gift cards" can be used on their androids, let alone people that don't use androids. Meanwhile, everyone knows that itunes gift cards can be used to buy music and apps on your iphone. This is on goole to change and get more awareness.
 
1. Android fragmentation. Currently 26% of Androids are still on Gingerbread and 19% on JellyBean. Kitkat is supposed to solve this specific issue. And if google can get 80% of devices on 4.0+, more specifically 4.2 or 4.3+, due to point number 2, then developers might feel more comfortable developing for it as they won't to have to develop with a whole bunch of different OS iterations in mind

What? This says Jelly Bean is on more than half of them now:

http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/04/...evices-now-run-jelly-bean/?ncid=rss_truncated
 
I'm supposed to order a handful of new telephones for work. So what's the hot phone on Verizon these days? For my own selfish purposes, I'm looking for something that's reasonably snappy and fairly easy to tinker with. And some reasonable durability wouldn't hurt knowing the rubes getting the rest of them.

Right now, I'm leaning towards the HTC One. Good choice?
 

GatorBait

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Sort of a weird question, but how does voicemail work on Nexus phones?

I actually have a Galaxy Nexus and use Google Voice, but I'm considering dropping my use of that service. When I get a voicemail on Google Voice, I actually get a voicemail notification in my notification tray that is expandable and has an option to immediately start playing the voicemail. All voicemails are also displayed and playable directly within the call log in the phone app.

Is this the same for carrier voicemail? Or am I going to have to dial 1 to access my voicemail box and click through a series of menus to listen to my voicemails like the old feature phone days?
 

Marco1

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If it's true that Samsung are moving towards their own OS and App Store then how will this affect android and how much damage will it do?
 
If it's true that Samsung are moving towards their own OS and App Store then how will this affect android and how much damage will it do?

Samsung is experimenting with the idea, but they won't go through with it. They're in far too deep, and as Google continues to tighten its grasp on the OS, they'll only sink deeper.
 

Divvy

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Samsung has their own shitty ecosystem because it's their backup plan in case google pulls the rug from under them. For a company of that size and dependency on Android, it'd be kind of stupid of them not to have some kind of contingency plan. Nevermind how shitty the implementation is.
 

tino

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Holy shit. The AOSP browser is so much easier to use (especially in forums) I wonder why I wasted my time on Chrome.

I even get popped up floating window on my LG rom.

Only thing I miss is the "jump to top" "jump to bottom" quick controls on the ICSBrowser+
 

jokkir

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The thing I like Chome over the AOSP browser is Chrome can handle large pages with a ton of picture a lot better than AOSP. AOSP would crash while Chome would glide through it. Everything else though is AOSP
 

Nicktendo86

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Just said this in the nexus 5 thread but will post here, I messaged Artem from ap if he knows whether the new launcher will deffo hit the n4/7 when KitKat geta pushed, and whether it will appear on the play store like rumoured. He said as it is now part of the search app it is ALREADY on the play store, or will be when search gets an update. Says ap will have a post about it later today.
 

tino

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The thing I like Chome over the AOSP browser is Chrome can handle large pages with a ton of picture a lot better than AOSP. AOSP would crash while Chome would glide through it. Everything else though is AOSP

I go to porn pages on my home computer, on two monitors.
 
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