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[The Faceless Master]

"slightly above average"

that is a flawless 3 word summary of the Moto X.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Dude the general public goes and sees Michael Bay movies in droves. So they must like those too!

Most Linux users use Ubuntu and don't change it from Unity, so I suppose you could say

Unity = Michael Bay

I will use this argument in the future. Oh wait, no I won't, because I'm not a moron.

that is a flawless 3 word summary of the Moto X.

And one I would agree with.

 

[Talon]

Hey, guys. Let's not call each other names.

 

[Vanillalite]

Unity is actually functional though even if it might not be the best looking. That's more akin to Touchwiz!

Also from your review quote...

"In fact, it’s slightly above average (certainly compared to Motorola’s past efforts in this area), though not a best-in-class performer like the HTC One’s Super LCD display."

But get the Moto X cause you know it's not as good as the One.

Hey, guys. Let's not call each other names.

Come on it's Friday! Gotta have a little fun around here!

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Unity is actually functional though even if it might not be the best looking. That's more akin to Touchwiz!

It's certainly seems like Samsung and Canonical are competing to make the most aesthetically ugly shell of all-time.

Also from your review quote...



But get the Moto X cause you know it's not as good as the One.

Like any phone it depends on what you want. What I took issue with in your original reply is implying the One is unequivocally better. Well, no. There's some things the Moto X does better, and some things the One does better. So I pointed out what the Moto X has to offer. For a lot of people, the X may seem more appealing. Saying "Just get the One" is ignoring the differences between the two phones.

Come on it's Friday! Gotta have a little fun around here!

Nerfherder!

 

[killertofu]

The HTC One has better specs, sound, etc

But the Moto X has some really cool features...

Damn you Moto for making it expensive on contract and limiting customization to ATT.

I guess I'll stick with my iPhone for a little while longer

 

[thespot84]

The HTC One has better specs, sound, etc

But the Moto X has some really cool features...

Damn you Moto for making it expensive on contract and limiting customization to ATT.

I guess I'll stick with my iPhone for a little while longer

yeah at this point i'm waiting for moto maker to become nonexclusive. If something better comes along (like a moto neXus hngg) then there's that. otherwise the x sounds like the best fit

 

[Marty Chinn]

Of course. How does that change what I said?

You said it had a weaker GPU.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

You said it had a weaker GPU.

My mistake.

His reply however is still questionable.

 

[Vanillalite]

Spoiler

Joke!

 

[Groof]

Spoiler

Joke!

Man, I was ready to lose my shit

 

[yyzjohn]

Got a problem with my phone and I have no idea what's causing it. Might be my provider (Rogers).

Anyway, this started happening recently. When I get a voicemail, I get the usual Android voicemail notification icon in the top bar (good!). I ALSO now get a friggin TEXT MESSAGE that says "1 voicemail. 0 urgent".

This never happened before! So I'm basically getting 2 notifications for each voicemail, the android one, and a bloody text message. This only started happening recently, like after I updated to 4.3 (I think).

Anyone know what the issue is?

Here's a screenshot:

 

[Vanillalite]

Man, I was ready to lose my shit

Hey I said MOST not all!

 

[SirMossyBloke]

So the Motorola rep is currently in the store showing off the Moto X. He says i'm not allowed to take pictures yet for some reason, so no proof sorry.

Anyway, here's my impressions, and they're mostly negative.

1. The size of the screen vs the size of the phone is fantastic. Hard to believe it's the same screen size as my One. However the phone itself looks cheap as all hell in person. It was the white one, so the white plastic looks very similar to the cheap iPhone pics that are circling the web. It looks like an entry level phone, not a mid/high end. Probably my worst issue with it to be honest.

2. He demonstrated "OK Google Now" quite a lot, and it was very hit and miss. May be due to being in a store, but he had to talk quite loud for it to be recognised and often got his words wrong. This however could be an issue with the microphone or Google Now's voice recognition.

3. The screen is very unremarkable. It looks nice but put against any of the leading phones on the market and you can just tell its not as good. He played a small clip from Star Wars during an intense lightsabre battle and the black crush on it was terrible.

4. He showed off the twist to enable camera feature, again hit and miss, you have to be pretty agressive with it for it to launch, and I can see the phone getting thrown a lot. Once the camera was launched it was pretty quick to take pics. One issue I did notice was that when I pressed on the screen to take a pitcure it comes up with a circle to show where you;ve pressed. The third time I did this the circle was nowhere near where I pressed, not sure what happened. Slow motion feature was cool though.

5. The notification on the screen was actually prettty impression, he claims it only uses 20% of the given pixels in that area of the screen to light it up, and it's very easy to read and even quicker to get into the texts once you press on the screen. Much better than a notification light thats for sure.

That's it really. I'd never buy this phone after seeing it in person, not at that price anyway. It truly is a mid-range phone, and the look of the phone is very off putting for me, regardless of the almost edge to edge screen. It also launched apps a little slower than my One when I did a basic speed test, but the swiping on the main screen seemed fast enough.

Pretty disappointed tbh.

 

[Junior Mint]

Got a problem with my phone and I have no idea what's causing it. Might be my provider (Rogers).

Anyway, this started happening recently. When I get a voicemail, I get the usual Android voicemail notification icon in the top bar (good!). I ALSO now get a friggin TEXT MESSAGE that says "1 voicemail. 0 urgent".

This never happened before! So I'm basically getting 2 notifications for each voicemail, the android one, and a bloody text message. This only started happening recently, like after I updated to 4.3 (I think).

Anyone know what the issue is?

Hmm, I'm getting the same thing on Rogers after 4.3 too. I don't know if it's coincidence or 4.3 changed some setting.

 

[Groof]

Hey I said MOST not all!

<3

So the Motorola rep is currently in the store showing off the Moto X. He says i'm not allowed to take pictures yet for some reason, so no proof sorry.

Anyway, here's my impressions, and they're mostly negative.

1. The size of the screen vs the size of the phone is fantastic. Hard to believe it's the same screen size as my One. However the phone itself looks cheap as all hell in person. It was the white one, so the white plastic looks very similar to the cheap iPhone pics that are circling the web. It looks like an entry level phone, not a mid/high end. Probably my worst issue with it to be honest.

2. He demonstrated "OK Google Now" quite a lot, and it was very hit and miss. May be due to being in a store, but he had to talk quite loud for it to be recognised and often got his words wrong. This however could be an issue with the microphone or Google Now's voice recognition.

3. The screen is very unremarkable. It looks nice but put against any of the leading phones on the market and you can just tell its not as good. He played a small clip from Star Wars during an intense lightsabre battle and the black crush on it was terrible.

4. He showed off the twist to enable camera feature, again hit and miss, you have to be pretty agressive with it for it to launch, and I can see the phone getting thrown a lot. Once the camera was launched it was pretty quick to take pics. One issue I did notice was that when I pressed on the screen to take a pitcure it comes up with a circle to show where you;ve pressed. The third time I did this the circle was nowhere near where I pressed, not sure what happened. Slow motion feature was cool though.

5. The notification on the screen was actually prettty impression, he claims it only uses 20% of the given pixels in that area of the screen to light it up, and it's very easy to read and even quicker to get into the texts once you press on the screen. Much better than a notification light thats for sure.

That's it really. I'd never buy this phone after seeing it in person, not at that price anyway. It truly is a mid-range phone, and the look of the phone is very off putting for me, regardless of the almost edge to edge screen. It also launched apps a little slower than my One when I did a basic speed test, but the swiping on the main screen seemed fast enough.

Pretty disappointed tbh.

Throw that thing out the window. Ain't worth it.

 

[yyzjohn]

Hmm, I'm getting the same thing on Rogers after 4.3 too. I don't know if it's coincidence or 4.3 changed some setting.

Bless you. At least I know it's not just me. Friggin annoying as hell though. I was on the phone with Rogers tech support this morning and they couldn't figure it out.

 

[Junior Mint]

Bless you. At least I know it's not just me. Friggin annoying as hell though. I was on the phone with Rogers tech support this morning and they couldn't figure it out.

It seems like certain phones (and ROMs from what I've read) can intercept those SMS' and ignore them. I am guessing some internal setting got changed in the update to 4.3 and Android is just letting the messages through now. It's annoying but thankfully I don't really use VM much.

 

[Baconbitz]

I have a giant issue with on screen keyboards. On my nexus 7 I tend to hit the "v" key when I mean to hit the space bar. Are there any good keyboard modifiers? I thought since this was a bigger screen size I wouldn't have this problem.

 

[Junior Mint]

I have a giant issue with on screen keyboards. On my nexus 7 I tend to hit the "v" key when I mean to hit the space bar. Are there any good keyboard modifiers? I thought since this was a bigger screen size I wouldn't have this problem.

Kii Keyboard is pretty much the stock keyboard but with resizing and layout options.

 

[Vyse The Legend]

My mistake.

His reply however is still questionable.

It has higher benchmarks due to a lower-res screen. It's an apples and oranges comparison.

I guess we should all go back to WVGA screens, so we can have the BEST BENCHMARKS EVER.

 

[Baconbitz]

Kii Keyboard is pretty much the stock keyboard but with resizing and layout options.

Reading the reviews on the Google play store, and all but one were negative.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

It has higher benchmarks due to a lower-res screen. It's an apples and oranges comparison.

I guess we should all go back to WVGA screens, so we can have the BEST BENCHMARKS EVER.

You're trying to pretend the performance isn't better because it has a worse screen. Motorola knew what the pros and cons of pairing a lower res screen with a top of the line GPU were, and the pro is better graphics performance. dealwithit.gif

 

[Vyse The Legend]

You're trying to pretend the performance isn't better because it has a worse screen. Motorola knew what the pros and cons of pairing a lower res screen with a top of the line GPU were, and the pro is better graphics performance. dealwithit.gif

Moto X2 to have a VGA screen confirmed.

 

[SirMossyBloke]

You're trying to pretend the performance isn't better because it has a worse screen. Motorola knew what the pros and cons of pairing a lower res screen with a top of the line GPU were, and the pro is better graphics performance. dealwithit.gif

Well when I see that the phone itself runs slower than my One, i'm not convinced.

 

[Junior Mint]

Reading the reviews on the Google play store, and all but one were negative.

5200 5 star ratings
276 1 star.

Am I missing something?

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Moto X2 to have a VGA screen confirmed.

I know being obnoxious is your schtick but there's no reason to be pedantic. 720p is easily good enough for almost everybody. It has almost 200,000 more pixels than the latest retina iPhone and those seem to be selling pretty well.

 

[SirMossyBloke]

It's kinda funny, when I told the rep we'll be selling the phone for $189 on a two year, he laughed and said "wow, that's expensive". Haha.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Well when I see that the phone itself runs slower than my One, i'm not convinced.

Compare a full screen game on both, that's when the GPU will come in most handy.

 

[Bboy AJ]

Sounds disappointing. Maybe another backing would feel better.

The only reason I'd get a new Nexus 10 is to finally fix these kernel panics. Random reboots galore. It's still not fixed.

 

[Fox1304]

Just bought this

Quad core, 2g ram, android 4.2.2, built in BT.

Anybody having experience with those Android Tv hdmi keys ?

Hoping to be able to play 1080p vids from the network, do some light gaming and emulation.
Would be fantastic !

Ps: first android device ever for me, no real idea of what I'm running into.

 

[The Faceless Master]

And one I would agree with.

the problem is they're charging a premium price. slightly above average Android mobile handsets retail at $99 w/2yr or less.

the Moto X is releasing at the same time as the LG G2, can you honestly recommend that over the LG G2 to anyone except those with tiny hands?

So the Motorola rep is currently in the store showing off the Moto X. He says i'm not allowed to take pictures yet for some reason, so no proof sorry.

Anyway, here's my impressions, and they're mostly negative.

1. The size of the screen vs the size of the phone is fantastic. Hard to believe it's the same screen size as my One. However the phone itself looks cheap as all hell in person. It was the white one, so the white plastic looks very similar to the cheap iPhone pics that are circling the web. It looks like an entry level phone, not a mid/high end. Probably my worst issue with it to be honest.

2. He demonstrated "OK Google Now" quite a lot, and it was very hit and miss. May be due to being in a store, but he had to talk quite loud for it to be recognised and often got his words wrong. This however could be an issue with the microphone or Google Now's voice recognition.

3. The screen is very unremarkable. It looks nice but put against any of the leading phones on the market and you can just tell its not as good. He played a small clip from Star Wars during an intense lightsabre battle and the black crush on it was terrible.

4. He showed off the twist to enable camera feature, again hit and miss, you have to be pretty agressive with it for it to launch, and I can see the phone getting thrown a lot. Once the camera was launched it was pretty quick to take pics. One issue I did notice was that when I pressed on the screen to take a pitcure it comes up with a circle to show where you;ve pressed. The third time I did this the circle was nowhere near where I pressed, not sure what happened. Slow motion feature was cool though.

5. The notification on the screen was actually prettty impression, he claims it only uses 20% of the given pixels in that area of the screen to light it up, and it's very easy to read and even quicker to get into the texts once you press on the screen. Much better than a notification light thats for sure.

That's it really. I'd never buy this phone after seeing it in person, not at that price anyway. It truly is a mid-range phone, and the look of the phone is very off putting for me, regardless of the almost edge to edge screen. It also launched apps a little slower than my One when I did a basic speed test, but the swiping on the main screen seemed fast enough.

Pretty disappointed tbh.

HTC First.
Moto Xnd.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Depends on what the G2's battery life is and whether the person is into customization and stock Android. (That menu button in place of multitask is horrendous.)

 

[Vyse The Legend]

the problem is they're charging a premium price. slightly above average Android mobile handsets retail at $99 w/2yr or less.

the Moto X is releasing at the same time as the LG G2, can you honestly recommend that over the LG G2 to anyone except those with tiny hands?

He's championing a phone he's never used, and probably never will. What do you think?

 

[shinshoryuken]

Well when I see that the phone itself runs slower than my One, i'm not convinced.

It's kinda funny, when I told the rep we'll be selling the phone for $189 on a two year, he laughed and said "wow, that's expensive". Haha.

Hahah...I knew those features will be hit or miss. So much for the better user experience people are spitting out.

Worst screen and performance than s4 and One...lol.

 

[Nex Superne]

the Moto X is releasing at the same time as the LG G2, can you honestly recommend that over the LG G2 to anyone except those with tiny hands?

To be honest, as long as LG continues to relentlessly brutalize their OEM skin, I'd easily take the Moto X. Same goes for everything Samsung infects with their bottom-tier designers.

But a G2 Nexus? Sure, I'd be interested.

 

[Doopliss]

This I can totally agree with. Fuck going Qualcomm as it semi defeats the purpose of Nexus devices if they can't get the source material worked out.

Entropy (one of the CM maintainers) made a G+ post about this. He basically says it's not a big deal for custom firmware because the files Qcom are restricting are easily obtained from the device itself.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Entropy (one of the CM maintainers) made a G+ post about this. He basically says it's not a big deal for custom firmware because the files Qcom are restricting are easily obtained from the device itself.

custom rom peeps are happy, pure stock lovers still screwed.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

He's championing a phone he's never used, and probably never will. What do you think?

I'm playing devil's advocate against people who decided they hate the phone, despite also not having used it.

 

[kehs]

rom builders don't mind cobbling together bits?

shocking

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

I'm playing devil's advocate against people who decided they hate the phone, despite also not having used it.

To be fair they'll never use it cuz it sucks!

/s

 

[SirMossyBloke]

I'm playing devil's advocate against people who decided they hate the phone, despite also not having used it.

It's a piece of shit.

What now huh? WHAT NOW?

 

[Vyse The Legend]

I'm playing devil's advocate against people who decided they hate the phone, despite also not having used it.

I have used it, though. You might want to scroll back to the day of the launch party.

 

[shinshoryuken]

I'm playing devil's advocate against people who decided they hate the phone, despite also not having used it.

Did anybody use the HTC first?

 

[Marty Chinn]

Just bought this

Quad core, 2g ram, android 4.2.2, built in BT.

Anybody having experience with those Android Tv hdmi keys ?

Hoping to be able to play 1080p vids from the network, do some light gaming and emulation.
Would be fantastic !

Ps: first android device ever for me, no real idea of what I'm running into.

How much is that? I'm looking for a low cost solution to stick into the car as a XBMC device. That looks like it might fit the bill. How do you control input to it?

 

[SirMossyBloke]

Did anybody use the HTC first?

I think HTC did. I doubt Facebook did.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Damn son so the verge SAA'd the moto x.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Damn son so the verge SAA'd the moto x.

?

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

?

slightly above average'd

 

[Fox1304]

How much is that? I'm looking for a low cost solution to stick into the car as a XBMC device. That looks like it might fit the bill. How do you control input to it?

Just bought it for 60$.
And for controls, usb or BT controllers. ( or what I'll do, unifying Logitech keyboard )