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Android |OT6| Huawei or the iWay [Nobody Reads Edition]

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Groof

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i would be so mad if i wasn't in the US

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Polarburr

Member
Weird. My order got canceled randomly. Here's the email.

'Dear Google customer,

Protecting your account from potential fraud is a matter we take very seriously. Due to suspicious activity, your Google Payments account has been temporarily closed.'

'Thank you for using Google. Unfortunately, we were unable to verify some of the order details for the following order. As a result the order has been cancelled.

You may resubmit this order by visiting Google Inc. again. To help us verify the order details, we recommend that your billing and shipping addresses match what is on file with your bank, and that the phone number listed in your Google account is one where you can be reached by our specialists. '

These are the conditions I had when ordering:
1.) Used my own email address.
2.) Billing Address is different from Shipping. (billing is my aunts address in Cali. shipping is my sisters house in Vegas)
3.) Accessed store.google.com via BetterNet (proxy app) cause I live in the Philippines.

Any ideas?
 
is the shipping address on file with your bank?

that combo of using a proxy and the billing and shipping address being in different states could be red flags.

i suggest an angry but polite email complaining about the order being cancelled.
 

Pyrokai

Member
I know that many people think the 6P is a "no brainer" and I pre-ordered with the hype....but man.....I'm freaking out a little bit. It's $500 + $37 tax. I could get a Moto X or 5X for ~$200 less.

Why should I not cancel and switch my order? I mean.....are the upgraded camera, processor, and finger print reader (regards to Moto X) worth all that?

Also, like I said earlier, I am very worried about the battery life dying on me after a year or two. I would like to keep the 6P for 3 to 4 years if possible. I mean, $500 is a huge investment for me because I'm super poor. But I guess none of these phones have replaceable battery, do they?
 

Hasney

Member
I know that many people think the 6P is a "no brainer" and I pre-ordered with the hype....but man.....I'm freaking out a little bit. It's $500 + $37 tax. I could get a Moto X or 5X for ~$200 less.

Why should I not cancel and switch my order? I mean.....are the upgraded camera, processor, and finger print reader (regards to Moto X) worth all that?

Also, like I said earlier, I am very worried about the battery life dying on me after a year or two. I would like to keep the 6P for 3 to 4 years if possible. I mean, $500 is a huge investment for me because I'm super poor. But I guess none of these phones have replaceable battery, do they?

Nah, replaceable batteries are unfashionable. Most are easy as hell to replace though.

Don't get the Moto X if you're planning to keep it that long, Motos updates are hilariously bad. Just get a 5X or even a regular 6 if price is going to be an issue.
 

Ashes

Banned
I know that many people think the 6P is a "no brainer" and I pre-ordered with the hype....but man.....I'm freaking out a little bit. It's $500 + $37 tax. I could get a Moto X or 5X for ~$200 less.

Why should I not cancel and switch my order? I mean.....are the upgraded camera, processor, and finger print reader (regards to Moto X) worth all that?

Also, like I said earlier, I am very worried about the battery life dying on me after a year or two. I would like to keep the 6P for 3 to 4 years if possible. I mean, $500 is a huge investment for me because I'm super poor. But I guess none of these phones have replaceable battery, do they?

I think you don't know what super poor, is what I think.

Learning to live within your means is a pretty rudimentary lesson in life.
 

Pyrokai

Member
I think you don't know what super poor, is what I think.

Learning to live within your means is a pretty rudimentary lesson in life.

I'm not entirely sure it's living beyond my means but it could possibly be. I'm very aware of my situation in life. I work 2-3 jobs to stay afloat, and my cell phone is my only computer. I have a 7 year old desktop I'll be selling once I get the phone, as it will BE my computer, which is a lot cheaper than buying a new computer. At least, I think so. It's my justification and I feel I've put thought into it. I need the cell phone (as my computer) to stay functional in life, use the Internet to browse new jobs, cheaper and better places to live, manage my finances and debts, etc. I could go the 5X route, but I want something that will last a very long time.

So basically that's why I'm freaking out, lol.

Yes, I know I could live at the library to do all this but I'm trying to avoid that as that makes life functionality all that much more difficult.
 

Ashes

Banned
I'm not entirely sure it's living beyond my means but it could possibly be. I'm very aware of my situation in life. I work 2-3 jobs to stay afloat, and my cell phone is my only computer. I have a 7 year old desktop I'll be selling once I get the phone, as it will BE my computer, which is a lot cheaper than buying a new computer. At least, I think so. It's my justification and I feel I've put thought into it. I need the cell phone (as my computer) to stay functional in life, use the Internet to browse new jobs, cheaper and better places to live, manage my finances and debts, etc. I could go the 5X route, but I want something that will last a very long time.

So basically that's why I'm freaking out, lol.

Yes, I know I could live at the library to do all this but I'm trying to avoid that as that makes life functionality all that much more difficult.

If it's a computer you're looking for; keep your monitor, and buy one of the windows 10 devices. That way you can hook it up like a pc.

Microsoft have a budget one too. Don't know anything about that one, but it should be fine, if you're just using it to browse and whatnot.

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If I were in your shoes, I would not invest so much in a phone. I don't know where you live, but buy a PC for a couple hundred bucks and buy the best budget phone you can buy. A Moto G or something.

And put the rest into a back up savings account for when your screen cracks. ;)
 

No Love

Banned
If it's a computer you're looking for; keep your monitor, and buy one of the windows 10 devices. That way you can hook it up like a pc.

Microsoft have a budget one too. Don't know anything about that one, but it should be fine, if you're just using it to browse and whatnot.

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If I were in your shoes, I would not invest so much in a phone. I don't know where you live, but buy a PC for a couple hundred bucks and buy the best budget phone you can buy. A Moto G or something.

And put the rest into a back up savings account for when your screen cracks. ;)


Agreed. Get a laptop for a couple hundred bucks (Slickdeals) and then spend $200-300 on a good phone. Bam, done.
 

RoadHazard

Gold Member
From the comments:
It's not a splash screen. It's a part of a one time intro sequence

The tutorial thing, yes. But I'm pretty sure the splash screen with the logo will be there every time you start the app, just like it is with YouTube, for example. It's a new thing Google is doing.
 

EmiPrime

Member
I'm not entirely sure it's living beyond my means but it could possibly be. I'm very aware of my situation in life. I work 2-3 jobs to stay afloat, and my cell phone is my only computer. I have a 7 year old desktop I'll be selling once I get the phone, as it will BE my computer, which is a lot cheaper than buying a new computer. At least, I think so. It's my justification and I feel I've put thought into it. I need the cell phone (as my computer) to stay functional in life, use the Internet to browse new jobs, cheaper and better places to live, manage my finances and debts, etc. I could go the 5X route, but I want something that will last a very long time.

So basically that's why I'm freaking out, lol.

Yes, I know I could live at the library to do all this but I'm trying to avoid that as that makes life functionality all that much more difficult.

I think you'd be better off buying a cheaper smartphone and a good Chromebook instead of just a 5X.
 
Well now when i make a phone call, the screen turns black during the entire call, can't access anything.
Fucking amazing.
I manage to get internet back but only in 3g.
Fuck this update.
 

Polarburr

Member
That's............. probably it.

is the shipping address on file with your bank?

that combo of using a proxy and the billing and shipping address being in different states could be red flags.

i suggest an angry but polite email complaining about the order being cancelled.

Hmmm. If I have my friend from Vegas order it for me, think it'll push through? Still different billing and shipping address though. Only this time, no proxy server. Haha.

Has anyone ordered with the billing address and shipping address different? Did your orders push through?
 

Hasney

Member
Well now when i make a phone call, the screen turns black during the entire call, can't access anything.
Fucking amazing.
I manage to get internet back but only in 3g.
Fuck this update.

Have you tried flashing it fresh or a factory reset? Sounds like OTA troubles.
 

Ashes

Banned
Also, I don't think this is the reemergence of BlackBerry. This is just them trying to fight off Blackphone 2.

“We’re replacing BlackBerry,” declares Mike Janke, one of the co-founders and an ex-US Navy commando. Mr Janke — who still carries the strapping frame of his former profession, now clothed in a neat company polo shirt — is an unlikely advocate of cutting edge cryptography.
Three years ago his claim to challenge a leading enterprise smartphone provider might have been laughable. But now 41 of the top 50 in the Fortune 500 ranking of US companies are clients, says Mr Janke, “and about 90 per cent of the US Senate”.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ba3b873e-6b92-11e5-aca9-d87542bf8673.html#axzz3ojdOPBQH

From that article, this is interesting:
As Mr Janke is also keen to point out, though, Silent Circle is far from being the enemy of western spycraft. It supplies the FBI. In the UK, a team of former SAS commandos is selling the Blackphone to British agents. “It’s close to 37 countries who are purchasers of our software . . . On the policy side, there’s criticism, but on the operational side, they’re buying our stuff like hot cakes.”
Ultimately, says Mr Janke, it will not be governments that inhibit the spread of encrypted devices such as the Blackphone but Facebook and other big tech companies. “People like to talk about the NSA, China, Russia, GCHQ, but let me tell you the largest purveyors of data theft out there are the technology firms themselves. Every free app is sucking globs of data off your phone hourly and they do atrocious things.”
 

Nif

Member
Hmmm. If I have my friend from Vegas order it for me, think it'll push through? Still different billing and shipping address though. Only this time, no proxy server. Haha.

Has anyone ordered with the billing address and shipping address different? Did your orders push through?

A different billing and shipping address can definitely flag the order for review at some online retailers. There are third party services out there that give a grade on your order based on address and various other criteria, and when they drop below a certain grade, a human will make the yes or no call.

It could just be that one of the two addresses has more chargebacks on file.
 

this_guy

Member
I think the 5X is better than what people are saying about it.

Too bad I can't get it for a discount.

Looks like I'll wait for the aftermath.

Looking at the iPhone 6S, but there are features I really like about Android (e.g. Firefox, Google Now, Twilight) that I will miss if I do switch.

What do you guys think about the Note 5 outside of the S-Pen user design fail? Samsung doesn't look like it's following its recently announced monthly update schedule thing for security fixes as devices are not even fully patched for Stagefright.

I really wish the 5x had the 6p body. I'm fine with the specs and prefer the smaller size, but the 6p just looks so much nicer. With the price difference being only $70 for the 32gb models it's hard to justify the 5x. The premium build quality (5x looks fine but doesn't look premium) and 3gb of ddr4 memory vs 2gb of ddr3 is easily worth the difference.
 

Bboy AJ

My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
I'm not entirely sure it's living beyond my means but it could possibly be. I'm very aware of my situation in life. I work 2-3 jobs to stay afloat, and my cell phone is my only computer. I have a 7 year old desktop I'll be selling once I get the phone, as it will BE my computer, which is a lot cheaper than buying a new computer. At least, I think so. It's my justification and I feel I've put thought into it. I need the cell phone (as my computer) to stay functional in life, use the Internet to browse new jobs, cheaper and better places to live, manage my finances and debts, etc. I could go the 5X route, but I want something that will last a very long time.

So basically that's why I'm freaking out, lol.

Yes, I know I could live at the library to do all this but I'm trying to avoid that as that makes life functionality all that much more difficult.
Buy the $300 Nexus 6.
 

Polarburr

Member
A different billing and shipping address can definitely flag the order for review at some online retailers. There are third party services out there that give a grade on your order based on address and various other criteria, and when they drop below a certain grade, a human will make the yes or no call.

It could just be that one of the two addresses has more chargebacks on file.

Thanks for the answer! Guess I'll just have my friend do it. Haha.

By the way, how come when I try ordering from the Google store, I get charged tax. But in the Huawei store, no tax? Is it normal for some stores to charge tax even though the address is the same?
 

clav

Member
I really wish the 5x had the 6p body. I'm fine with the specs and prefer the smaller size, but the 6p just looks so much nicer. With the price difference being only $70 for the 32gb models it's hard to justify the 5x. The premium build quality (5x looks fine but doesn't look premium) and 3gb of ddr4 memory vs 2gb of ddr3 is easily worth the difference.

Reportedly the newer iPhones use a tougher grade of Aluminum (7xyz vs. 6xyz). The first number in Al metal grades indicates strength. No specifics from Google on what the 6P uses. We might have another bendgate.

We still don't know how the 810 performs on this Nexus. I wouldn't be surprised of the results. 808 is a decent performer, and RAM shouldn't be a big deal after seeing that a Note 5 still struggles with multitasking with its 4GB of RAM. Plastic definitely survives drops a lot better than a glass covered body, which Samsung now uses.

5X uses the same camera as the 6P, right? That small form factor is going to be a difference for a lot of users.
 
Man I'm dying waiting for these reviews...need to make a decision on a phone for my sanity.

I hear you.

Imma chill until December though and get it then when it should be well reviewed and hopefully readily available. I've got an airline pass to earn and the spend will make it that much easier.
 

zewone

Member
Double press power button unlocks camera? Sweet.

It was also supposed to include twist to unlock camera as well (from Moto X), but Google decided against it at the last second.

It may still be possible for a dev to unlock that feature.
 

Vanillalite

Ask me about the GAF Notebook
That new One Plus cheap edition is nice.

The specs aren't cray. It's basically smaller OPO for $250.

Although you can’t order it yet, the OnePlus X placeholder page does reveal some of the expected specifications. They include the following:

5-inch full HD screen (1920 x 1080)
2.5GHz Snapdragon 801 processor
13MP Sony camera
8MP front camera
3GB RAM
16GB/64GB Storage
2450mAh battery
Global LTE support
 

Reckoner

Member
Reportedly the newer iPhones use a tougher grade of Aluminum (7xyz vs. 6xyz). The first number in Al metal grades indicates strength. No specifics from Google on what the 6P uses. We might have another bendgate.

We still don't know how the 810 performs on this Nexus. I wouldn't be surprised of the results. 808 is a decent performer, and RAM shouldn't be a big deal after seeing that a Note 5 still struggles with multitasking with its 4GB of RAM. Plastic definitely survives drops a lot better than a glass covered body, which Samsung now uses.

5X uses the same camera as the 6P, right? That small form factor is going to be a difference for a lot of users.

The issue with the bending gate wasn't really the aluminum quality. They just solved it the easiest and more costly way possible, because Apple. It was all about that week point near the volume switches. But increasing thickness or something like that is not on Apple's playbook as we know.

The Nexus 6, for example, has just metal on the sides and there's no bendgate. And there other examples, I'm sure.

Also, the multitasking issue on the Note 5 is software related and not hardware related.
 

Vanillalite

Ask me about the GAF Notebook
That's an enticing option. I wonder how it would be priced in the UK. £200 would be very very enticing relative to a Moto G.

The OPX along with the cheaper 16 gig ASUS for $230 is fucking INSANE for their pricing. Puts all of those cheap 410 phones on notice.

The battery is barely bigger than on the Nexus 5.

It's not amazing, but it's only 1080p on a 5" screen. It's not some QHD screen sucker. Plus in theory Android M fixes standby time.
 
The OPX along with the cheaper 16 gig ASUS for $230 is fucking INSANE for their pricing. Puts all of those cheap 410 phones on notice.



It's not amazing, but it's only 1080p on a 5" screen. It's not some QHD screen sucker. Plus in theory Android M fixes standby time.

I suppose you're right, when you consider the rest of the specs. It's 2014 hardware for 250, which isn't bad. The problem with customer service and OS support remains, though. Not that OS support for other phones in that price range is better.
 

Vanillalite

Ask me about the GAF Notebook
I suppose you're right, when you consider the rest of the specs. It's 2014 hardware for 250, which isn't bad.

Think of all the $200 Snap 410 phones. Now you can get a fucking 801 phone with 3 gigs of RAM and a 13MP camera to boot. LoL

PS: ASUS support has been fantastic for the Zenfone.
 

clav

Member
The issue with the bending gate wasn't really the aluminum quality. They just solved it the easiest and more costly way possible, because Apple. It was all about that week point near the volume switches. But increasing thickness or something like that is not on Apple's playbook as we know.

The Nexus 6, for example, has just metal on the sides and there's no bendgate. And there other examples, I'm sure.

Also, the multitasking issue on the Note 5 is software related and not hardware related.

I used to work in manufacturing where I ordered and used a ton of Aluminum. Think what Apple did was appropriate.

You have to remember that Aluminum is a soft metal. It easily bends at lower grades and with enough heat applied. Size makes a big difference on the bending factor.

Nexus 6 still has a plastic body, which I think holds up better than whatever "premium build" comment about glass phones. Really hate that term now.
 

kinggroin

Banned
Playing with the N6p. The panel is not as good as the note 5 or Galaxy s6.

Looks like a better calibrated OG n6 display.

Read: it looks just fine

Edit: off angle viewing gives hue changes

Camera wise its not even close. Lol, I can't believe how much more light the P model lets into its shots. Detail is substantially higher. Though I encountered some moire in high detail sections of an image.

Color and white balance too look much closer to the real thing.
 
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