brotkasten
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What a super disappointing year it is for phones.
There we have the Nexus 5 coming back and it's bigger, uglier and more expensive than before, while offering nothing compelling in exchange for all these trade-offs.
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Android |OT6| Huawei or the iWay [Nobody Reads Edition]
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What a super disappointing year it is for phones.
There we have the Nexus 5 coming back and it's bigger, uglier and more expensive than before, while offering nothing compelling in exchange for all these trade-offs.
-Pyromaniac-
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The bright side is next year we'll have potentially a good war of flagships with qualcomm back on its game (one would assume) and everyone with something to prove.
But yeah I wouldn't keep any phone that came out this year longer than a year. And thankfully my upgrade year is 2016.
But yeah I wouldn't keep any phone that came out this year longer than a year. And thankfully my upgrade year is 2016.
well, we are really at that point that there haven't been huge improvements in the hw department. Performance is really great for most SoCs, 2GB ram for midrange devices, really decent cameras. FInger print scanner seems to be a thing too so it is really hard to objective reasons to upgrade. Maybe battery life is the weakest point but no huge improvements so far.
Even touch force screens on huawei devices hasn't made people excited (will be a thing when apple does it though)
Maybe next year 14nm SoCs will be a decent improvement and not a marginal one
-Pyromaniac-
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Don't tell that to LG/Moto
But yeah the main battles left are battery life and of course, design. Remember my deal samsung, remember it. Release a near identical S7 (keep scaling back touchwiz) with a 3000mah battery and I promise I'll get it.
When I say 'design' I mean where the scanner is, bezels, offering a lineup with equal specs (normal sized and phablet instead of one size fits all) etc...
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I think it's a bit of a gamble with Qualcomms' SoC next year ... or at least to assume that they got their crap together (hopefully). It's not that anyone expected the 810 to be a massive downer, right?
Still planning to get the N5-2 ... while my trusty N5 2013 is going strong, the battery shows it's age, although i do get about a day with medium SoT/use.
I'm just hoping that Qualcomm doesn't slack off in 2017 for the next next phone then. ^^
Still planning to get the N5-2 ... while my trusty N5 2013 is going strong, the battery shows it's age, although i do get about a day with medium SoT/use.
I'm just hoping that Qualcomm doesn't slack off in 2017 for the next next phone then. ^^
Don't tell that to LG/Moto
But yeah the main battles left are battery life and of course, design. Remember my deal samsung, remember it. Release a near identical S7 (keep scaling back touchwiz) with a 3000mah battery and I promise I'll get it.
yes, hopefully LG and Moto will feel the pressure now that is not only samsung/apple using them.
Especially Huawei pushing it for midrange devices seems the way many 'casual' smartphone users consider it a factor when buying next phone and becomes next mainstream smartphone feature
we will have to wait 6 months for that
Well at least according to sammobile 820 is being tested so hopefully this time will be ok. At least 14nm will help a bit with heating...I'll stick with my note 4, until then, and if no real improvements, new battery and wait for 2017 xD
-Pyromaniac-
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the 820 is supposed to be the next huge bump for qualcomm. The GPU I think sees a 40% improvement and also the move to 14nm FinFET. The fact that it looks like samsung wants it in their S7 should say enough.
5-2 looks good to me but that's knowing I'll only have it for one year. Also if they go QHD....just no
Jigolo
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More importantly they are using their own custom design....... So they actually know what the fuck they are doing.
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Yeah, i'm all in for a top notch SoC, if the quality, the efficiency and the power fit, i even might use the N5-2 as a stop-gap-phone (like i did with the N4, still a charming phone <3).
I'd love to know if Google is going for yearly updates for both Nexus phones, as N5 skipped 2014 yet the N6 is getting a refresh already.
brotkasten
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I understand that we're going to see little improvements. For me, what matters these days is wireless charging, design and battery. That's the only reason I'd upgrade. The first point is particularly stupid, because it limits my options immensely. But I really don't want to give it up. The speed and general performance of my Nexus 5 is great and I wouldn't need an update in that regard. It helps that I'm not playing any games on my phone, so whatever GPU improvements are coming are irrelevant to me.
My Nexus 6 hasn't even shipped. I like how Amazon treats non prime members as criminals.
Anyways, random complaint of the day..
Will the Nexus 6 fit OK in my back pocket? I'm looking forward to try it out as I sometimes in a pinch have to work on my phone and the extra screen real estate is something I occasionally wished I had with my current 4.7" screen. Although I don't really like being the person who needs to put their phone on the table because it's too big for their pocket. I might just get in a habit of leaving phone in car while at a restaurant.
Anyways, random complaint of the day..
Will the Nexus 6 fit OK in my back pocket? I'm looking forward to try it out as I sometimes in a pinch have to work on my phone and the extra screen real estate is something I occasionally wished I had with my current 4.7" screen. Although I don't really like being the person who needs to put their phone on the table because it's too big for their pocket. I might just get in a habit of leaving phone in car while at a restaurant.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
It's a mid range phone. It shouldn't necessarily have a premium build.
Vanillalite
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Here's the thing. The only reason the 810 is a cluster fuck is the heat which means phones throttle.
In terms of real world performance you aren't gonna suddenly notice next year's Snap 820 has a 40% faster GPU for general usage.
Unless your a heavy gamer or have a stupid ass 4k screen you won't really notice. Virtually all of the 8XX chipsets from Qualcomm should be virtually indistinguishable if you are just watching YouTube or texting your hoes back.
In terms of real world performance you aren't gonna suddenly notice next year's Snap 820 has a 40% faster GPU for general usage.
Unless your a heavy gamer or have a stupid ass 4k screen you won't really notice. Virtually all of the 8XX chipsets from Qualcomm should be virtually indistinguishable if you are just watching YouTube or texting your hoes back.
……forgetit
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This depends entirely on the pants you wear, a nexus 6 can fit in my front pocket but I wear pretty baggy pants.
-Pyromaniac-
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I've said the same before. In terms of real world use the differences are pretty negligible. Design and battery are definitely more important than SoC.
Nah, the 810 (and 808 for that matter, but like the heat, a lesser case because of lesser power) was pretty damn inefficient as well. Using the standard ARM stuff is a bit of a bugger on the battery. The 820 should in theory be kinder on batteries even with more power if they do as good a job on those cores as they did on the 32 bit ones.
Jzero
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I wear tight-ish work pants/jeans and it still fits. It really depends on how big YOU are.
……forgetit
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So what you're saying is your phone will probably be fast enough for a full two years? Who knew.
This is pretty much true
Vyse The Legend
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I've had the Nexus 6 break holes in my pants -- several of them. It's truly a massive beast.
AH really. I have giant legs from squatting. But wear pants with pretty big "seats". We shall see. I'm for sure not going to be able to sit on this phone, which I usually do. Windows phones.. they suck but are built like tanks.
i read this in david hayter's voice
Render to compare to nexus 5 (the render of the 5-2 is apparently legit other than the button placement which should be a bit further down):
Looks thinner.
They could have kept the same thickness and given us a bigger batt.
Vanillalite
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In theory your phone should be good enough to last 5 years+ if you have a 8XX chipset.*
*Just counting general performance not battery, wear and tear, new features like fingerprint ect...
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
The Nexus 6 is the King Krush of phones. It'll destroy your pockets right quick.
Is that the old Nexus 5 on the bottom, and the supposed Nexus 5-2 on top?
Yes.
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yussss
killertofu
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So I was going to Atlanta this weekend and decided to ship my phone over there. Turns out her leasing office is closed on Sundays and she wouldn't get it until today...
I just canceled the order but now it's 9-10 days until it's restocked on Amazon ;___;
Why doesn't Best Buy have the white version? I could use my movers coupon and save even more money..
I just canceled the order but now it's 9-10 days until it's restocked on Amazon ;___;
Why doesn't Best Buy have the white version? I could use my movers coupon and save even more money..
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
The blue version is for the plebs. Stick it out.
Vanillalite
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Lol
Verizon talking about 5G bring gig a bit mobile internet. Fails to talk about how everyone has like sub 10 gigs of data total.
Verizon talking about 5G bring gig a bit mobile internet. Fails to talk about how everyone has like sub 10 gigs of data total.
killertofu
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I know...also the white is gonna match real well with the new wireless charging nightstand I bought this weekend...
Saiyan-Rox
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The fuck is this?!
the size of those on screen buttons....
The Android Jitterbug
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Apple event tomorrow? You mean I get another chance to style on these Android n00bs?
Vyse The Legend
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No. 5.7.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
There are conflicting reports out now if it's 5.7 or 5.5.
Vyse The Legend
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Not conflicting. The 5.5 number comes from an import manifest for India. It's not accurate. Artem, of AndroidPolice, debunked it also.
Lots of data throughput with a metal body.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Yes conflicting.
Onleaks and some others have said both a 5.5 and a 5.7 were tested and Onleaks still saying his sources say it's 5.5. That was as of yesterday BTW days after the manifest.
So no it's not clear and still conflicting.
Testicular Sound Express
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omfg you guys....lol
Jazzy Network
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Did Asus sell out of the Zenpad 8.0 64gb? Amazon doesn't even have it listed anymore.
-Pyromaniac-
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I wish the apple event was today. Pretty bored at work.
This is now the Apple Event thread.
What are you most looking forward to? I'm really curious to see all the Force Touch specific 2nd functions throughout the OS, like long pressing WiFi, etc. So close to Android parity in that regard, finally.
Vanillalite
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Most interested in the camera both in terms of physical looks ie will it still protrude and how the camera in general is since they are making the jump to 12MP.
I'm also interested to see if they add OIS to both phones this time around.
On top of that I want to know if Apple finally jumps to 2 gigs of RAM standard for all their devices.
I'm also interested to see if they add OIS to both phones this time around.
On top of that I want to know if Apple finally jumps to 2 gigs of RAM standard for all their devices.
If it's not the Apple Event thread, it's not the Apple Event thread.
WhiskerFrisker
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Big phones are the future. Accept it.
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