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Android |OT6| Huawei or the iWay [Nobody Reads Edition]
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Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Samsung is where they belong. Apple deserves the vast, vast majority of profits because they make the best phone for the vast, vast majority of people.
We need to Harrison Jones tf out of Samsung.
We need to Harrison Jones tf out of Samsung.
I feel like Samsung has gotten away from what made them successful with the S3. They're trying to beat Apple at their own game, which will never happen.
They did good this year with addressing the issue of build quality with their phones. Next year, they need to work on their software. But even if they completely gutted Touchwiz, I feel like the stigma it has is now impossible to get rid of.
Basically, they need to:
1. Not revamp, but replace Touchwiz. Ideally, use stock and add some of the nice features from Touchwiz (dual window, S-Pen, etc.)
2. Bring back SD card slots and removable batteries. Set themselves apart from Apple again.
3. Work with carriers to ensure quicker updates and security patches. No one should expect Nexus speeds, but it needs to be faster than it is now.
Other than that, keep up with the nice build quality, camera, and display.
They did good this year with addressing the issue of build quality with their phones. Next year, they need to work on their software. But even if they completely gutted Touchwiz, I feel like the stigma it has is now impossible to get rid of.
Basically, they need to:
1. Not revamp, but replace Touchwiz. Ideally, use stock and add some of the nice features from Touchwiz (dual window, S-Pen, etc.)
2. Bring back SD card slots and removable batteries. Set themselves apart from Apple again.
3. Work with carriers to ensure quicker updates and security patches. No one should expect Nexus speeds, but it needs to be faster than it is now.
Other than that, keep up with the nice build quality, camera, and display.
This is simply not true. The majority of the people are not using iPhones and Apple does not deserve the majority of the profit. Maybe you are talking about flagship phones? Because only then it is debatable.
Do not equate actual profit/earnings with deserved profit/earnings. That is a fake reality created in a market society.
-Pyromaniac-
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the problem is they're not at any ceiling. They're declining at a fast rate rather than staying in one spot. They're losing ground on the low end and they're losing the high end completely.
it's not completely wrong, iphone is the single highest selling smartphone in the world. And there's good reason for it. It's not some facade.
TBH I don't think there's anything samsung can do to be really successful anymore but I think they can carve out a niche if they focus on some core strengths rather than trying to be everything.
It is completely wrong because he thinks 92% of the profits is deserved. That is completely not deserved.
Nobody is saying the IPhone sucks, we're talking about monopolizing all the profits. It is never OK for a company to monopolize 92%+ of the profits in any market. Exceptions aside of course like in the beginning of a market when there are no real alternatives.
Which is?
because it's apple, just make the exact phone without apple on it and boom, there' you have it
Nicktendo86
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Apple have done an amazing job in terms of marketing, brand awareness etc etc. They are the very best at selling their products.
Samsung are an odd company. The thing is they have made their latest flagships look so much like iPhones you might as well just get an iPhone. I don't think the S6 is much cheaper than the iPhone either, which I think is an issue.
You hardly ever see any adverts here in the UK for Android OEMs except for Samsung and Sony with their Made in Chelsea deal, but Apple adverts are always on the airwaves despite their already massive mindshare. Sometimes it feels like the other OEMs are not even trying to sell their products. I've not seen a Motorola advert on the TV here for at least 6 years.
Samsung are an odd company. The thing is they have made their latest flagships look so much like iPhones you might as well just get an iPhone. I don't think the S6 is much cheaper than the iPhone either, which I think is an issue.
You hardly ever see any adverts here in the UK for Android OEMs except for Samsung and Sony with their Made in Chelsea deal, but Apple adverts are always on the airwaves despite their already massive mindshare. Sometimes it feels like the other OEMs are not even trying to sell their products. I've not seen a Motorola advert on the TV here for at least 6 years.
-Pyromaniac-
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the good reason for their success is they simply make the most appealing phone to the masses. It's one of the best looking phones, it has the best apps, it's a good all-round performer, the software is hassle free. Not many frills but no surprises whatsoever. It's consistently great. For the mass public it's easily the best device. The larger option is there as a bonus to those who want that as well.
And HTC already made an iphone without an apple logo
Winner is winning through multiple rampant anti trust abuses IMO.
This is the most lolworthy post in this thread since Faceless' famous booty background.
Junior Mint
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Man you guys are really salty about iPhone winning.
Also, I'm sure Apple's price-fixing on its amazing iBooks service convinced many people to use iPhones (lol)
Also, I'm sure Apple's price-fixing on its amazing iBooks service convinced many people to use iPhones (lol)
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Samsung making bank from Apple anyways since they supply like half of the 6S chips.
The Faceless Master
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Android Police: [Update: Smoking Gun] WhatsApp Is Blocking Telegram Links In Its Android App
facebook definitely not on that 'do no evil' tip
facebook definitely not on that 'do no evil' tip
Unknown Soldier
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People should buy Apple stock instead of being salty that Apple has all the profits and they ain't getting any
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
S6 was ruined by Touchwiz, LG G4 was felled by Android. Both phones went to crap after owning them for a month + and installing a bunch of apps. The s6 turned laggy, unresponsive, and janky. The G4 battery turned to complete garbage. Otherwise, it's butter smooth, responsive, and fast. Really don't feel like wiping my phone and starting over, don't feel like messing with dozens of battery saving apps hoping to see a minor improvement, don't feel like rooting or whatever to pinpoint the exact cause (which may turn out to be some useful Google service that I want to keep on anyway). I don't feel like I should cripple my phone by turning off services or deleting apps, I just want my phone to work right and for my battery to last me through the day. Even bought an official spare G4 battery because I thought I had a lemon, now I know it's software related.
Anyway, love the G4, it's not the phone's fault. It never had the best battery life, but what's happening to my phone is not normal. So I think I'll bow out of Android for now, I had a good run. Galaxy S5, Note 4, S6 Edge, and now G4. I'd say I gave the platform a decent shot, and I'll hang on to my Nexus 7.
Anyway, love the G4, it's not the phone's fault. It never had the best battery life, but what's happening to my phone is not normal. So I think I'll bow out of Android for now, I had a good run. Galaxy S5, Note 4, S6 Edge, and now G4. I'd say I gave the platform a decent shot, and I'll hang on to my Nexus 7.
You're basically saying that you should have bought a Nexus for a phone too.
I reboot my Nexus 5x every 2 days or so because it bogs down if I use Snapchat or the camera.
LouisaFerre
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I'm in it - Kanye West
LostMyNarbles
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I forgot Chromecast and Google's services don't work on iOS.
The 5X lags according to people in this post. Maybe this poster should give iOS a shot or consider Windows Phone?
Jzero
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No apps
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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Got tired of waiting on Google for the Pixel C. Bought an iPad on black Friday.
Maybe I will pick up the pixel c in March of the iPad Air 3 doesn't impress.
Maybe I will pick up the pixel c in March of the iPad Air 3 doesn't impress.
Unknown Soldier
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Even Microsoft doesn't consider Windows Phone. Expecting consumers to is lunacy.
What program do you use to change the colors of your LED notifications?
I finally decided to custom rom a Galaxy S3, and it's been working OK with minor annoyances. Better than the last time I tried it years ago although I have to cycle airplane mode to get data back sometimes. At least I now pass Stagefright and possibly other bugs.
However I don't get notification LEDs any more.
I finally decided to custom rom a Galaxy S3, and it's been working OK with minor annoyances. Better than the last time I tried it years ago although I have to cycle airplane mode to get data back sometimes. At least I now pass Stagefright and possibly other bugs.
However I don't get notification LEDs any more.
I'm used Lightflow for years. Lots of options and works reliably.
My Nexus 6 didn't lag that much. It was snappy. Didn't have top of the line performance, but was perfectly fine.
Don't know about the 5X, but it should be about the same minus the extra gig of ram. Isn't the 6P an option?
BoboBrazil
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snapdragon 808 is a horrible processor, i told you guys about this with the moto x pure
Which Lightflow? There are three versions.
BoboBrazil
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Anyone coming from an old phone isn't going to notice. If you come from a recent phone without lag it is easily noticeable.
No dual front facing speakers tho.
Nexus 5X lag is definitely real but it's very situational. It seems to only happen when you wake it and I do think it has something to do with Snapchat and/or the camera. I'm hoping an OTA update fixes it soon.
It's definitely not a case of the SOC simply not being able to keep up because the S808 is more powerful than the SOCs in the N5 and N6 and both are very smooth. Plus the 5X itself is extremely smooth the majority of the time.
It's definitely not a case of the SOC simply not being able to keep up because the S808 is more powerful than the SOCs in the N5 and N6 and both are very smooth. Plus the 5X itself is extremely smooth the majority of the time.
DUFFMCWALIN
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Ended up ordering a Dell Venue 8 7000.
Can't wait to view that 8.4" OLED infinity display with 2560 x 1600 resolution.
My media will be consumed.
Just bought this as well. I hope the 6.0 update comes to it. I've been loving 6.0 on my 6P.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Nexus cameras crash when you use them heavy. Every single one. In my experience. The phone just overheats.
Bloodember
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Is the phone actually overheating and shutting down, or just getting hot?
I'm talking just starting it up fresh. Annoying.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
The phone gets hot and the camera app crashes. Phone slows down tremendously. Unusable. Standard Nexus feature :/
That's annoying. Sounds defective.
I dunno, I had a Note 5 and bought a 5X for giggles, and I never noticed any real lag at all. In fact, in some ways it felt smoother than the Note 5.
Rewrite
Not as deep as he thinks
My dad's Nexus 6 came in today. Been playing with it installing everything. Got marshmallow on it now. It's huge for sure and the screen isn't half has good as my Note 5's, but it's still a decent screen. Not as bright though. Those front facing stereo speakers are fucking legit though. Overall, my dad is gonna love it.
Prototype Viktor
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That's what you get for not following the truth NP6
the good reason for their success is they simply make the most appealing phone to the masses. It's one of the best looking phones, it has the best apps, it's a good all-round performer, the software is hassle free. Not many frills but no surprises whatsoever. It's consistently great. For the mass public it's easily the best device. The larger option is there as a bonus to those who want that as well.
And HTC already made an iphone without an apple logo
I agree and disagree. It appeals to the masses because Apple is associated, like other brands (cars, clothing etc) with 'luxury' and that is something Samsung and others lack. Then a lot of people find Apple products 'affordable' because many do not pay 700 at once. That helps too.
Ease of use, apps, design and performance is not much better or worse than other high end phones. And they also have some issues, as almost any product int the world: os issues, hardware issues etc....Of course if you compare an Iphone with a low-midrange phone you will find more problems on those, but most people are fine with their phones. (and that connsidering that iOS and android are very different, just like consoles and PCs in gaming)
Apple also offer a very limited range of products, compared to rivals (that is a key point imo to keep the 'luxury product aura', and why Iphone 5C was somehow a failure compared to standard iPhone)
So best device != most desired device. Different things, and yes,that is why HTC's iphone (m7 or newer ones) will never reach Apple level sales.
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