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Android |OT6| Huawei or the iWay [Nobody Reads Edition]
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If 820 is really 2x as power efficient and 2x the performance of 810, it's going to be insane.
BoboBrazil
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Gonna be a beast for sure. I think 820 samples are what scored that 80k+ on antutu. Now if Android just had games that would take advantage of the power.
EatinOlives
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I thought the Note 5 was received pretty well?
Prototype Viktor
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Toss that baby in a Chromecast
Unknown Soldier
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Sounds like a good idea, I always wanted Chromecasts which burst into flames on use
Prototype Viktor
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liquid cool that sucker! we need more Tim the Toolman Taylor to pump this up
cross tv references
-Pyromaniac-
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Quick Charge 3.0 sounds beast as well.
Baroquemantic
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QC 3.0 sounds great.
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Well I've lasted two years with this S4, so I'll push it to a third. I'm not upgrading until phones with the 820 are out and it's confirmed to not be a portable heater. I hope Qualcomm still plans on using their 3d fingerprint scanning tech next year too.
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Well I've lasted two years with this S4, so I'll push it to a third. I'm not upgrading until phones with the 820 are out and it's confirmed to not be a portable heater. I hope Qualcomm still plans on using their 3d fingerprint scanning tech next year too.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
New tabs as apps is so much better. Going back is primitive.
It's smarter than your average WiFi calling, I'll tell you that now.
For serious version:
-Pyromaniac-
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The reason I don't mind getting a nexus 5-2 rather than waiting is realistically a phone carrying the 820 that I actually want won't come out until late next year (might be a nexus or a moto phone).
The ONLY phone that could come out earlier that I might have any interest in is the S7 if they do a 180 on the battery and put a huge one in and go back to being slightly thicker. I'm not going to want LGs phone no matter what. I don't really have any interest in HTC at all. And that's about it for the first half lol.
The ONLY phone that could come out earlier that I might have any interest in is the S7 if they do a 180 on the battery and put a huge one in and go back to being slightly thicker. I'm not going to want LGs phone no matter what. I don't really have any interest in HTC at all. And that's about it for the first half lol.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
I just want a lower end device without a garbage GPU. Even when you step up from the 4XX line to the 6XX line the GPU is still terrible.
I'm not asking for a miracle here. Just something that doesn't feel like a GPU from 2012.
Vyse The Legend
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No chance. The Nexus phones are probably already packaged and ready to be shipped, if the end of September release is legit.
Also, the 820 does sound great, especially the quick charge. Of course, by the time it hits most devices, we will be fapping over the 830.
Go with God.
I would be so sure. We didn't knew anything about of the 820 until the 810 was released.
brotkasten
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I still don't see the difference between a long press and a force touch.
-Pyromaniac-
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There's multiple layers. Pressing it through one layer does one thing and pressing it harder does another thing. A long press is amateur hour in comparison when looking at the tech and implementation.
Sad but true, the videos make it look really half-assed software and hardware-wise. Still, can't blame them for trying: the only way android can stop playing catch-up with apple is if OEMs skin and bring innovative features to an otherwise "shy" OS.
S7 might offer it next year in a more refined way though, which can be worrisome because it'll be a touchwiz overlay, which like many others I've never found attractive, but again it's a step in the right direction. Stock Android has its limits.
So yeah, I agree with you for once. Two years seems like the amount of time it'll take for stock android phones to land with decent force touch interactions and good hardware. It's also a good motivation to look at non-stock devices for once.
brotkasten
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No, I understand how it works. That's clear to me. But none of the demos I've seen couldn't have been done with a long press + holding. I really don't see how applying pressure to the screen is "so much more direct and natural" and makes using the phone "better than ever".
Not only does the software implementation look far better, but the hardware to implement haptics via the taptic engine actually seems competent. And long presses suck because you're forced to wait. This is instant.
Certainly I can't help but look puzzled at the excitement at what looks like right clicking on a phone.
That's because they took it slow in the demos to show what was going on.
Long pressing everything is so painfully slow if I want to get stuff done. Opening five new tabs on my computer is faster than opening one on an Android device. Now there's a button for that like I have on my computer.
And third/middle click. I'm handicapped on a computer without three mouse buttons.
Lol, wut?
iOS was already falling behind 'stock Android' and 3D Touch is Apple's attempt to bring it back to par.
I don't care for Touchwiz at all but Samsung did all Airview two years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXIyYni4_-M
that's the same quick peak UI everybody was calling a gimmick that is now being wanked over because Apple is offering it in iOS9.
I'll hold judgement until I play with an iPhone 6s myself to see if Apple nails the UX but goddam it's embarrassing to see supposed smartphone experts that don't know the UI innovations that's been available on Android for a long while now.
Can't say I ever use three buttons. I use the wheel, but that's about it.
-Pyromaniac-
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I don't think you watched enough of the demos. One example off the top of my head was the quick peak into an app/email/text on the soft touch and then hard touching will actually open the app if you decide to do so.
There are lots more examples of why having multiple layers is a lot more seamless/better of an implementation.
it's ok...they have a hero phone coming soon.
edit: I can't believe you're comparing air view to 3d touch above lol. That's some garbage implementation. Not sure why people are fighting it. It's a good innovation from apple and when everyone copies the implementation we will be better off.
Mkbhd did a good hands on that shows it in action.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gN-MeB-S8Kw
Go to 2:40
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gN-MeB-S8Kw
Go to 2:40
Offering it way better designed and integrated in the UI. Apple may come last (lol really), but they usually nail it. This is one of those cases.
brotkasten
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I've seen the keynote demo and it all seemed really gimmicky to me. Nothing that allows me to use my phone better and again, certainly not more natural. App shortcuts are great, but I've had that in Windows Phone few years ago. e: Not with the same implementation at all, but still.
The best thing I can see coming from this is better screen tech in general. Much like how multi-touch is kind of gimmicky (aside from pinch-to-zoom), but got us a lot more and better capacitive touch screens.
Middle clicking opens and closes a new tab.
lol wut? You have an iPhone 6s already? I have
The main reason I'm keep going back to the Apple ecosystem is for OSX. I've tried the Surface Pro and the Chromebook Pixel but the Macbook still has the edge (primarily because of all the talented app developers). Now that iOS is catching up to Android, I can come back to the iPhone which has a simplified integration with my Macbook
It's just weird to see people wanking over 3DTouch as though it's some great leap forward. Hardware is worthless until it's been utilized by software and all the stuff Apple is using 3DTouch for have already been done on other platforms or aren't necessary:
"Woohoo you can 3DTouch an app icon on the iOS homescreen for quick actions. Such innovation, amazing leap forward"
"Oh Android had widgets and Windows Phone had Live icons since inception? Nevermind"
This is the part where we stop taking you seriously, if we'd ever started.
You seem to forget that Forstall had his strings pulled by Jobs. Steve had the final say on EVERYTHING UI related during his time. Forstall just executed Steve's vision. Third party keyboards and the multitasking you want would have never happened under Jobs/Forstall.
You may need to calm down. I haven't tried. I'm just talking out of my ass.
But from what I saw by the hands on videos, it's a cool feature to have. It's optional. But looks like a functional and helpful feature to get around the UI, and it's definitely better than what you posted there from what I've seen. The only time I had with Force Touch was on a MacBook and I liked the feel of it, but yeah, on phone it should feel different.
If we're being honest, 3D Touch is only a thing because of iOS's inherent rigidity. They had to add more UI features, but had a limited way in which to add them, so they're essentially slapping them on top of icons and buttons. Is it the best way? Probably not. Will it greatly improve the usability of iOS for both casual and power users in an easy to use way? Seems like it.
Having a widget for quick actions for each app instead of just having it built into the app itself would suck dude. Implementation matters.
And I'm confused about windows phone. Do live tiles have quick actions?
brotkasten
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No, live tiles have no quick actions. You can pin a specific functionality of an app to the home screen and it takes you directly to that (specific directions in the map app or the barcode scanner in the Amazon app). Apple's implementation of shortcuts is more elegant, because it takes less space on the home screen.
I think what they showed with 3D touch is bollocks, at least to me. I have no need to peek at things if I'm not going to open them, but I suppose if you get work emails and the like, you might.
Someone mentioned opening things in new tabs earlier. If that's easy to do, I may change my mind.
Someone mentioned opening things in new tabs earlier. If that's easy to do, I may change my mind.
They showed more than peeking. The parts I'm more excited for are the app shortcuts (jump straight to selfie mode in camera, jump straight to composing email, straight to voicemail on phone, etc). Also the multitasking from the left side.
Oh yeah, and something about multitasking too, but my stream started jumping around at that point.
Jumping straight into Hearthstone with a default deck setup could be kinda handy.
Frustrated_me
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What's the rumored price of the Nexus 5 2015? And do the Nexus phones usually sell in Canada at the same time as US?
I have a HTC ONE M7 and my god something has totally slowed down this phone to a crawl. There's a new service pack out from HTC this morning but I think it's time to upgrade, it's been 2 years I have this phone - mostly been great to me.
I have a HTC ONE M7 and my god something has totally slowed down this phone to a crawl. There's a new service pack out from HTC this morning but I think it's time to upgrade, it's been 2 years I have this phone - mostly been great to me.
Vyse The Legend
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Allegedly, starting at $399 for 16gb. $450 for 32gb.
Nothing confirmed, but those numbers are gaining steam. There was one recent rumor that said it would be 32gb/64gb, same prices.
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