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Android |OT6| Huawei or the iWay [Nobody Reads Edition]
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Tbh if I hadn't gotten mine stolen, I think I'd be using this phone today. SD600 + 2 GB of RAM was a sweet spot. Sexiest phone I've ever owned and the only phone that people on the streets and at random fests in Chicago asked me about. It was that visually appealing.
I can't agree with that, OS X has never looked better. Their big problem is that they suck at services still and iTunes and Apple Music are a mess. Eddy Cue should have joined Forstall out the door too.
Live Photos and 3D Touch are the biggest innovations in smartphone tech in years. I don't see how anyone can think otherwise.
Is this a troll attempt here?
Jazzy Network
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Lord if the N5 is at 16GB start, it will be DOA.
No. Most of the time I can't be bothered to take video but it would be nice to have a 2-3 second animated photo with a bit of audio.
brotkasten
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He probably means that it has been around for a while.
First I've heard of it. I assume Apple's implementation is a lot better.
I'm not writing it off. I do think it's cool feature to have. What I'm pushing back against is the idea that the other mobile OS are miles behind because their phones don't currently have 3DTouch hardware or that peek and pop is some unique major UI advance. In the Android thread of all places I'd expect that opinion to be quickly dismissed but this thread... *sigh* most people here just care about hardware
Oh wow, are we finally having a discussion about software in the Android thread?! Lol, of course it had be in a discussion about Apple but I'll take what I can get. Anyway I disagree obviously. 3Dtouch actions take up less space on the icon but is less visible and more mystery meat navigation. Live Tiles is a more elegant homescreen in general.
brotkasten
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I don't know about "a lot better", because I haven't used any of the implementations.
Here's Nokia's Living Images.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbH1E57LuYA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgm813KfOKw
Seems like it only came to one Windows Phone. A niche within a niche so not surprising it was relatively unheard of.
Ah that's fantastic news!
I don't think Android is years behind, nor do I think Apple is the best there is. The way Android handles notifications for instance is something Apple's been trying to replicate and I personally don't think they've done it well. I prefer Android as an OS overall because I've always found iOS limiting and frankly a bit boring. That being said, iOS's work on UX is indeed miles ahead. The features they implement software-wise are backed by judicious hardware choices.
3D Touch is an interesting feature because of that. Does it revolutionize UI? No, it's even something Android has done before (like you've been saying with Samsung), but the hardware feedback and careful interface design choices bring it all together in a way Android hasn't been able to replicate. Android's diversity of OEMs is both a strength and a definite weakness for that reason.
The second part of the reasoning behind the idea that non iOS phones are lagging behind is the market pressure that goes that way. Fingerprint scanners existed before Apple put them on their iPhone, but now they've done it it's the holy grail of phone security. Any new feature they implement is a focus point for the whole handled device market, being an Android fan doesn't absolve anyone form that.
So no, we don't care just about hardware, but it's a fact that hardware impacts the general UX that the OS can only assist with. This is why the Nexus line exists, it showcases a phone whose hardware is supposed to compliment the newly-released software as best as it can. But even there, the fact that it's still two companies trying to make that work mean they're not quite on par with Apple's omnipotence in the designing of their product and its features.
Anyways, I'm ranting by now. Here's the tl;dr : iOS isn't the holy grail of UI and yeah its innovative features are not innovations. But an iPhone is a whole that is built in a way that DOES make Android phone manufacturers try to catch up, over years, and it does make android OS look bad because it lakes that connection with its hardware.
Not surprised and it looks like Google's implementation doesn't capture any audio either.
I'd rather have the Apple Live Photos, doesn't matter if Nokia did it first if they did it badly and on just one device on a failing OS.
Non context touch is terrible ui design and something the Jobs would have never let happen. Long press wasn't the main issue with the use, it was "what the fuck happens when I long press and where".
I do enjoy reading all of the blogs talking about how 3D touch is amazing with no contextual scenarios but long touch was terrible ui because you had no idea where our when to use it.
3D touch is a better implementation of a bad design cue
I do enjoy reading all of the blogs talking about how 3D touch is amazing with no contextual scenarios but long touch was terrible ui because you had no idea where our when to use it.
3D touch is a better implementation of a bad design cue
brotkasten
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It sucked, because it wasn't implemented in the OS camera app and you had to use Nokia's app.
That's very true, interaction patterns without design cues is pretty bad, but then again implementing a new feature with tons of marketing and hardware feedback give it a chance to exist. Pinch to zoom wasn't natural until it became so natural people try do to it on non-touch kindles... Time will tell.
Had a funny moment with the wife and her S5 this morning, we were trying to send a pic to a friend, so I told her to open Hangouts, hit the camera icon, and flip it to selfie mode.
Turns out hitting the camera icon in Android Hangouts only opens the default camera app, and can't actually take a pic from within the app. I didn't believe her until she showed me the phone.
5.0.0 stays winning.
Turns out hitting the camera icon in Android Hangouts only opens the default camera app, and can't actually take a pic from within the app. I didn't believe her until she showed me the phone.
5.0.0 stays winning.
soundahfekz
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Frustrated_me
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What are some of the better Android focused twitter profiles I can follow? I want the latest and greatest news 
The Faceless Master
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so rememeber when i said this?
RIP tablet market.
more bad news. the iPad Mini 4 has an A8, not an A8X.
can't even trust Apple nowadays.
RIP tablet market.
Frustrated_me
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That doesn't do any good because no one reads here.
Did you expect Hangouts to have it's own camera app builtin? I don't think any messaging platform has that.
Junior Mint
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Pretty sure the iOS version does. Facebook Messenger does on both Android and iOS as well.
Got the Shakes
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You can definitely take a picture right in the iMessage app and send it without ever having to leave the app.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHaaaahhhhhhhhh can't breathe!
You guys don't even know what you're missing while you're driving on the access road instead of the iWay.
Unrelated, Kellen is doing a Q&A on the Pure: http://www.droid-life.com/2015/09/1...e-moto-x-pure-ask-me-questions/#disqus_thread
Yeah, not sure what's wrong with how it works.
I have an iPhone, too. I don't see what a custom camera implementation gives me, so educate me!
Jazzy Network
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I'm gonna assume it's good for lazy people. Innovation!
I also have an Iphone and the behavior is exactly the same. Click message, click picture icon, click take (vs. attach), opens camera (partial settings on Iphone), take picture, asks to keep/retake, hit keep, gets attached to message and ready to send.
I am not seeing how there;s any functional difference at all of having camera API builtin vs. opening an app. You guys are way critical over nothing on this one. If anything the iphone version lacks camera settings which is a weakness.
"The one thing I don't like about Android Hangouts is that it's almost too good."
That's actually...brilliant. Curious to see if the 4K screen running downscaled will look OK, but I assume it would.
BoboBrazil
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You can in Google messenger too.
... you haven't explained what your issue is. You posted a problem to try to seem like a smart ass, got called out and then just ignored people who are trying to help with the problem.
Wreav stays winning.
Nah, didn't get called out at all. Your vitriol for me is blinding you.
We've got folks in here now defending needing two apps to take a picture instead of one.
Aside from all of this, the S5 couldn't even do selfie video once it opened the camera app from Hangouts, so again, worse is worse.
We've got folks in here now defending needing two apps to take a picture instead of one.
Aside from all of this, the S5 couldn't even do selfie video once it opened the camera app from Hangouts, so again, worse is worse.
The Faceless Master
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so this is like their cameras being high end but taking low end photos.... makes sense
i again, don't get your point. You click the camera button, it opens the camera, you take a picture, it has that picture sitting in hangouts for you to send. You push the send button. Whats the issue here?
Its not my vitriol for you, your blinding stupidity is ruining my brain.
I dare you to post about Android and not me.
Just once.
Try it.
You might like it.
Anyone post the APK teardown of Camera 3.0? Didn't see it, but I don't read. http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...ens-detection-auto-hdr-and-more-apk-teardown/
Just once.
Try it.
You might like it.
Anyone post the APK teardown of Camera 3.0? Didn't see it, but I don't read. http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...ens-detection-auto-hdr-and-more-apk-teardown/
right, so you're just a shit posting troll. Thanks for confirmation.
The thing is that you notice that difference with photos. It's not like you're going to notice the difference between 1080p and 4k on a 5.5" screen.
Like Wreav says, it's brilliant. Everyone should to this even with quadhd displays. Just use the quadhd on media and we'll get more battery of our already big batteries.
Z5 line just keeps scoring
You're still not contributing, sir. Or, go take a pic of yourself from hangouts and enjoy the wait time for the camera app to open or something.
For sure. I dunno why downscaling never occurred to me, but that's the kind of disruptive technology I've been waiting for from an OEM. Now, we need battery breakthroughs.
That's crap and you know it.
The Faceless Master
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maybe you won't.
that's because the 830 will only be ~300 days away, with 2x the power!
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