You're arguing the benefit of Android's open architecture, not their "system-wide" ad blocking features (which are only enabled by third parties).
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Android |OT6| Huawei or the iWay [Nobody Reads Edition]
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You're arguing the benefit of Android's open architecture, not their "system-wide" ad blocking features (which are only enabled by third parties).
?? iOS's Safari ad blocking features are only enabled by third parties as well. Apple opened up their architecture (Wifi-DNS, VPN and now Safari content blocking) but that's catchup to Android's obviously more open and flexible architecture.
Really soon this won't matter and every android device using 5.1.1 pre stagefright patch should get root.
Got the Shakes
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Not sure how open I'd call Android when it comes to content blocking if you can't do it in Chrome, but I guess that's just me.
You can block ads in Chrome.
Got the Shakes
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I was told like 8 posts up that you can't.
Uh. Nope. You can use a different browser, but that's it.
Got the Shakes
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I'm an iOS user and did the same. I was just curious if Android users thought the implementation of content blocking in iOS is better than what Android offered. Turns out that they don't think it is.
Adblock Plus. They pioneered the whole WiFi blocking non-root method.
lol, ok you're back to your usual shit.
You were 'just curious' or you came in hear already claiming it was better:
If you want to learn how Android works that's great, many here are happy to answer questions. I'm always happy to have a discussion of the differences between Android and iOS and which UI is better (I'm an iPhone user by the way). But if you come into the Android thread preaching ignorance then it's just shitting up the thread. *shrug*
Got the Shakes
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What about when you are on cellular data?
I was curious. I stated why I think it's better, it's just my opinion. Heaven forbid someone in an Android thread think that another company does one particular area better than Google currently does something.
Got the Shakes
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Not sure how I'm preaching ignorance and I know how Android works. I have plenty of experience with it. To the best of my knowledge you need to root to take full advantage of any ad blocking out there. Wifi and cellular, unless something has changed. I'm not sure how I am "shitting up the thread" by having an opinion about something and trying to have a rational conversation about it, but I will take my opinions somewhere less hostile.
Edit: Meant to say can't block ads on Chome over wifi and cellular without root.
Here is a more comprehensive method to block on cellular without root
It's completely fine to think Android's way isn't the best. My main quibble is when your opinion is born out of ignorance. If you don't know how Android works and only care about a feature when Apple implements it, is your opinion really an informed one that I should take seriously? *shrug*
Jazzy Network
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Whelp thanks for the inciteful conversation.
Got the Shakes
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Again, what am I missing here? "AdBlock Plus also works only with WiFi Networks and wont be able to block ads while using a data connection." "Ad Barricade is dedicated to blocking ads from some of the major ad providers." None of that sounds like a comprehensive solution if you want to use Chrome as your browser. Going in and having to mess with DNS and proxy settings isn't something that your average user wants to do, and a lot might struggle to.
Junior Mint
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He's "Got the Shakes"
Damn you keep moving the goalposts:
Right below App Barricade in that link:
Does that answer your question that it's possible to block ads in Chrome on a cellular connection?
That's fair enough argument. But I don't think most average users ever set up any adblock solution themselves. Is your dad going to independently discover Peace for iOS or will you tell him about it and walk him through? I set up adblock on the desktop and mobile for most of my non-techsavvy relatives and putting a DNS address is not a huge obstacle (no different than putting in a DNS address so they can watch US Netflix from different regions actually).
Masterful use of inciteful, or hilarious typo, but either way, I dig it.
WhiskerFrisker
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I'm going to go into the Apple OT and be like, "I just got an iPhone and they are already releasing a new one!?"
Jazzy Network
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Tried to use Android Pay and it didn't work. Samsung Pay worked though. Odd.
Got the Shakes
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This is honestly the last thing I'll say about this. First, would someone like my dad fine Peace by himself? Maybe since it's a new product category and I'm sure you won't be able to miss it on the App Store front page for weeks to come. Would have I have walk him through it? I don't know because when you open a content blocker for the first time it give you the 2 step instructions to get it working. If I did have to walk him through it would it be easier than walking him through custom DNS settings, most certainly.
Speaking of custom DNS settings and Fool DNS..."But in order to use a custom DNS, you need to be connected to a WiFi network."
That's because Samsung's LoopPay is the superior technology.
Android ad blocking is far better than on iOS if you want to put in the work (root) as it can work across the OS not just the browser. Wifi only devices such as a tablet work well enough without root however. It would be nice if Chrome supported extensions so there was an easy to access ad blocking solution that worked on wifi and cellular without root.
Ad blocking on iOS is good enough for most though and easier to accomplish as long as you're okay with just using Safari.
Ad blocking on iOS is good enough for most though and easier to accomplish as long as you're okay with just using Safari.
BoboBrazil
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My One Plus 2 shipped directly from China instead of California this time. Will get it tomorrow or Saturday.
Not sure about on iOS (I think there are restrictions unless jailbroken) but on Android there are apps to change DNS with mobile too.
My problem is that the new hyped iOS content blocking apps only works in Safari. The workarounds like Marco's share sheet method are janky and I'd definitely have to walk a non tech savvy person through. Setup is not exactly smooth sailing either: just check the iOS9 thread this morning and there are GAF posters asking how to get the apps to work after downloading (answer: make sure to first turn it on in Settings app and then don't forget to launch the AppBlocker app to download and apply the lists) etc.
Anyway I agree iOS blocking is better if you narrowly compare Safari to Chrome. DNS editing is not as straightforwardly advertisied But, again, there are other methods on Android
Jazzy Network
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I used the NFC part of it though.
Saiyan-Rox
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LostMyNarbles
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Oh god did you order another one of those...
BoboBrazil
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Yes, they are nice phones. Check out Tim Schofield's review on YouTube or Erica Griffins camera review. I don't need NFC tbh.
The Faceless Master
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Firefox!
Jazzy Network
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After trying Samsung Pay and how easy it is to use, yeah I can't use a phone without NFC.
BUT THE BEAUTY IS LOOPPAY, NOT NFC
BoboBrazil
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Still gotta swipe my card at 90% of places and carry it around, so not a benefit to me at the moment. Maybe in another year or two.
The Faceless Master
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but Samsung Pay has MST too!
Jzero
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god damn, maybe i should ditch google and get a S6+.
I hate TouchWiz though.
OK, what's wrong with it? I'm currently using a Nexus 5 that's a laggy piece of shit. It's caused me to miss phone calls and I have to restart it almost consistently.
I don't have the time or patience to wait for a new phone, I need one asap, especially for my job.
LostMyNarbles
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Don't listen to the naysayers I'm really enjoying the phone so far. The screen looks great and is really bright so I have no idea what the original complaints were about, the phone is super fast and fluid, and battery life seems pretty good so far.
Jazzy Network
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I wonder if there is any way to emulate the chip? Probably not which is why it's more secure.
I'm not asking for much. I want a phone with a good amount of storage (64GB is plenty for me, currently have 32GB and it's nowhere close to being full), decent battery life and has a bigger screen since I sold my nexus 7 to a friend.
Highly doubtful, pretty sure those chips rely on physical contact like a SIM card.
-Pyromaniac-
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I'm too lazy to read this entire page but why not get a note 5?
Because I can't stand Samsung's phones. Every time I have used one, it drives me insane.
It's mostly TouchWiz. My parents and girlfriend have Notes and I love the S-pen, but I get so frustrated with TouchWiz and it makes me not want to use the phone. I much prefer stock Android over TouchWiz.
I'm leaving Korea in a few months so I want a phone that's unlocked, and I'm not paying full price for a phone that I'm not going to enjoy.
When I get back stateside, I'm going prepaid, either with cricket or straight talk. Paying $700 for an unlocked note 5 is out of my price range.
-Pyromaniac-
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Hm. Maybe the Huawei nexus will be up your alley. Wait for that. Big screen. Will likely have hefty battery. Run stock. I think it will be 32/64.
Already ordered the nexus 6.
$399 is about the max I can swing on a phone, which is why I narrowed my choices to the nexus 6 and the Moto X, and with the lg nexus coming out, there's no way the Huawei nexus will hit that price point.
So my options were to get a 16GB moto x, a 64GB nexus 6 or the lg nexus with a smaller screen (which I don't want).
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