I think the point is that they're having trouble keeping a steady supply of AMOLED screens, hence the trouble with keeping the phone itself in stock. The 821 is probably a fig leaf to those that would prefer AMOLED - though really, keep the 820 if the 821 is going to cause cost inflation.
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I think the point is that they're having trouble keeping a steady supply of AMOLED screens, hence the trouble with keeping the phone itself in stock. The 821 is probably a fig leaf to those that would prefer AMOLED - though really, keep the 820 if the 821 is going to cause cost inflation.
Unknown Soldier
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Pork Explosion might be the best name ever for a vulnerability.
Checked official Nougat updates reported and they go back like one generation from current. Why is this still such a big issue? TT
The iPhone 5 got iOS 10 FFS
For laughs I opened up Anandtech's review and see them comparing it to the GS3 and HTC One S...
Xiaomi didn't have an issue there. The Mi5 (820) and Mi5s (821) are priced the same.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
As a tier 2 company they can't get enough supply unlike say Samsung or Google.
The whole point of switching to LCD is to fix the supply constraints.
Wouldn't surprise me if this is the same issue Axon is having.
That's why both phones are going on and out of stock all the time and various websites.
There just aren't as many amoled suppliers.
It also makes me wonder about the NX.
Nikodemos
Member
Qualcomm issue reportedly. From various Disqus comment logs, it appears there's a combination between the SD800/801 lacking a particular type of hardware encryptor demanded by Nougat (a 3rd party one was specifically added to the 805, partly by serendipitous mistake), and the Adreno 3## series not supporting the full Vulkan instruction set.
The oldest Qualcomm SoC to support Nougat is the 805. Basically, if it has a 300 series Adreno and/or a Krait (except the aforementioned 805) it's out.
As for the others, it's unknown. Samsung like to tinker with Android and bend it to their tastes, plus they run very tight cost-benefit calculations, so many devices are likely to be left in the dust, while the Chinese (specifically the ones with their own chips, like MediaTek and Huawei) have 'traditionally' had generally poor long-term firmware support (particularly MediaTek).
The good thing about the One Plus is that it's quickly becoming the de facto standard device for Android enthusiasts and tinkerers, so even if it doesn't get timely updates officially it's bound to have a plethora of stable custom ROMs and kernels available and thoroughly tested.
If you are into that sort of thing.
If you are into that sort of thing.
Oh, right, Vulkan certification.
Still find it weird they couldn't make do without, maybe a gimped version. I wonder how the encryption works on the nougat ROM for Nexus 4.
Nikodemos
Member
Google don't like releasing gimped versions of their OS, if only because it involves extra work between them and the OEMs, and, they'd rather not shoulder the entire financial burden of having their OS run smoothly on whatever jalopy powers an OEM phone.
Remember that none of the ROMs for non-standard devices (Marshmallow/Nougat for NX4, Nougat for NX5) are supported by Google. They have "use at risk" disclaimers. If Nougat doesn't run properly on your Nexus 5, Google will just collectively shrug their shoulders and go "Well, tough shit".
You mentioned this before. Which phone are you referring to?
Phone that people are commenting on a rumor.
OP3 - no idea why he's being so cryptic - though I've heard of the issues I don't have a good sense of how widespread the issues are.
TerryLee81
Member
I use a S7 edge at the moment and while the screen looks amazing I often find myself touching it somewhere on the borders accidentally.
me too. Also a chance to update the camera hopefully
Apple will pull TubeX the second Google notice it's there too. They always do.
(There's a slightly tenuous but still legally definitely valid argument that distribution of YouTube downloaders might be a criminal offense in the UK and many other European countries.)
cartoon_soldier
Member
Just pre-ordered Pixel XL 128 GB Black here in India.
Expensive as fuck, but what other option do I have.
Hoping reviews hit soon though.
Expensive as fuck, but what other option do I have.
Hoping reviews hit soon though.
Nexus 9 doesn't support vulkan iirc, it's one of the exceptions. I skimmed over some of the changes they made to get Nougat working on N5 the gist is basically that Nougat uses tighter/different security measures and since older drivers aren't getting updated by Qualcomm they by pass those things. Not exactly a good thing if you care about security on the phone. While iPhone 5 got iOS 10 it's missing a lot of functions and is probably not running that great.
Fragmentation plus smaller volume in sales are definitely why longer support aren't warranted in Android land from OEM's perspective anyway.
Got my XZ yesterday, shipped from the UK. Didn't get hit with taxes, came with the free mdrx950bt headphones too.
The phone is really nice to hold. Fingerprint reader is really fast.
Anyone know a browser with quick/pie controls?
After a week with Nougat on N5x, the new doze is definitely a great improvement. My watch also gets about 15% better battery, not sure if it's related. Getting 3-4 hours sot for now, hopefully this phone will last me until Pixel 3, maybe there will be much more Google influence on the hardware by then.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Guess that rumor mill got too hot and they felt they had to comment on it.
What that doesn't say is how they plan on fixing their supply chain. They are losing sales by not having enough stock.
What that doesn't say is how they plan on fixing their supply chain. They are losing sales by not having enough stock.
The 7.1 Camera app, desinfected and signed.
http://chromloop.com/2016/10/mod-go...-0-new-afae-lock-manual-exposure-viewer-gird/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/57a2e5/pixel_camera_app_desinfected/
http://chromloop.com/2016/10/mod-go...-0-new-afae-lock-manual-exposure-viewer-gird/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/57a2e5/pixel_camera_app_desinfected/
peppermints
Member
Works on any phone running Nougat IIRC.
Jazzy Network
Member
Anandtech finally reviewed Honor 8. Been waiting for a display accuracy measurement which is rather important for me personally, ouch, glad I picked 5x. We already know the rest.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10678/the-huawei-honor-8-review
It's a crime that Android still doesn't have a proper color management built-in esp with fragmentation of hardware.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10678/the-huawei-honor-8-review
It's a crime that Android still doesn't have a proper color management built-in esp with fragmentation of hardware.
Does it combine messages per "person" rather than per "app"? As in shows "Andy" then within 2 Inbox emails, 1 tweet and 3 G Messenger texts? I can't tell from the screenshots.
bonchooski
Member
Amazon has the Nextbit Robin on sale again for 199.99
lol, damn right.
bonchooski
Member
If you guys had to choose between a GS7 Edge on ATT for $400 or the Moto Z Play for $450 which would you take? I have the ability to buy a brand new GS7 Edge for $400 and i'm torn between these 2.
Jazzy Network
Member
Not sure. I really don't have a contact using more than 1 different messaging service to test it with.
Depends, is the Edge a carrier model or unlocked?
bonchooski
Member
Carrier, AT&T
BoboBrazil
Member
The Edge is a really nice phone, but the edges on the sides make it too annoying to use on a daily basis. I sold mine.
Edge catches on fire, too: https://youtu.be/e8o-u0dJdNE
megarockexe
Member
No, the G5 has bad color accuracy? I'm gonna end up getting a Galaxy S7, aren't I?
The GS7 Edge is a no Brainer and I don't even like Samsung.
The Z Play has only one redeeming quality : its battery. It's hamstrung by its A53 powered SD625.
Jazzy Network
Member
It's a 625.
True. Fixed it.
If it actually had a SD652 it'd be a great phone for the price. The SD652 is a great Chip. Faster and more efficient than the SD808. The SD625 is warmed over A53 cores.
Rushersauce
Banned
There are even iPhone 7 and 6 catching fire.
Rushersauce
Banned
Just some random news
http://abc30.com/news/fresno-woman-...ed-and-caught-on-fire-in-her-bedroom/1543292/
http://news.mydrivers.com/1/501/501743.htm
But, what I'm trying to say. When missused, any phone can explode (and I bet some people will exploit the Note 7 fiasco)
Was there any issues with past edge devices?
Samsung been doing those for a few years now.
I think the issue is when the battery expands from cell failure. There's no room for the battery to go, so the expansion will break through the display if possible. That's what that other poster said about the Iphone 7 news. Pic showed the LCD screen protruding out since Apple's design is somewhat serviceable (remove two screws and pull).
With a sealed phone, battery will ignite since the battery's casing punctures. You have to use a heatgun to remove the glass panels.
As much as I don't like this site, it finally reports a problem that I think has been the cause. Says the Galaxy S7 Active has the same issue. http://bgr.com/2016/10/12/note-7-recall-samsung-galaxy-s7-active-battery-swelling-burst/