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ty_hot

Member
So I'm just about to drop Windows Mobile, and was looking to get an Android Flagship, and figured, hell why not the one that Google themselves are making, but holy fucking shit the pixel is expensive (~10'000 sek in Sweden).

So, what would be the "next best thing"? S7 (edge), or wait for S8? LG? Sony? There are so many different "flavours" of both hardware and software, I'm totally lost.

I wanted to get away from most bugs, and the app gap (Both in actual apps, and features within apps that are available), but I'm getting overwhelmed with too much choice instead.

HALP.
It seems that the S8 will be the only one to get the next snapdragon 835 processor (for a while), so all other flagship phones will use the "old" 821... I moved from WP to a OnePlus 3T which already have the 821, 6gb RAM, good battery life, THE fastest charging and IMO is absolutely beautiful. Almost stock Android as well, runs smooooth. No complaints. It costs half (or nearly that) of what the S8 will cost. Camera is the only not so great part of the phone, but still does its job well most of the time.

Only Huawei can surprise us with a P10 because they use other processors that might be close to the 835... It's camera should also be amazing (the 9 is already awesome).
 
Nice just upgraded to 7.0 and EMUI 5.0. Software is so much better. Mostly fixing things like notifications and lockscreen functions goes a long way.
 

Bboy AJ

My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
woo I am getting sick of this godawful battery life on the 6p
So glad I ditched mine after it fucked me once. Couldn't call an Uber during the grand opening of a casino because it said 40% when I left the casino and died while all the cabs canceled or figured out how to get around the new casino, through grand opening casino traffic. Stranded at 3 am with a 7 am meeting four hours later.

That was enough to bail out. Bless this iPhone SE in all its Rose Gold glory. I should just keep the tiny phone as a backup to the 6P. It's small enough.

Bonus photo of all the plebs trying to get in like it's Black Friday

MUA3iZZ.jpg
 

RoKKeR

Member
Nova Launcher question: I'm trying to get the Pixel style persistent search bar, but am unable to get the link to Google's weather app on the right side of the search bar. Right now it just shows the date + a link to the calendar. Is there any way to get the weather there? I tried doing the whole "hold volume down in Nova settings to access extra features" or whatever it is but couldn't find the option. On an S7 Edge. Any thoughts?

(not on the beta version, could that be it?
 

Laekon

Member
Are any of the Motorola phones on Verizon worth looking at against the S7 or HTC 10? I don't know anything about Motorola's current line up. Camera and expandable storage are probably the most important things.
 

Bboy AJ

My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
I thought it was good until I started using this 7+. Sheeeeettt.
It is insane how much better iOS is at battery. Absolutely insane. I never got great Android SOT battery life like others reported so YMMV but man, iOS is actually usable for hours for me.

Of course, it has its drawbacks in background data pulling. Works perfectly fine for me, though. I notice no difference in how I actually use the phones.
 
It is insane how much better iOS is at battery. Absolutely insane. I never got great Android SOT battery life like others reported so YMMV but man, iOS is actually usable for hours for me.

Of course, it has its drawbacks in background data pulling. Works perfectly fine for me, though. I notice no difference in how I actually use the phones.

I've never had any problems with Android SoT....but I use Samsung
 

vivftp

Member
So I'm just about to drop Windows Mobile, and was looking to get an Android Flagship, and figured, hell why not the one that Google themselves are making, but holy fucking shit the pixel is expensive (~10'000 sek in Sweden).

So, what would be the "next best thing"? S7 (edge), or wait for S8? LG? Sony? There are so many different "flavours" of both hardware and software, I'm totally lost.

I wanted to get away from most bugs, and the app gap (Both in actual apps, and features within apps that are available), but I'm getting overwhelmed with too much choice instead.

HALP.

Personally I'm waiting to see if the rumors of a new Xperia Premium phone are true, as that'd probably be my next phone. The rumors state it'll have a 4K screen (like the last premium, which could be nice for phone VR), 64 GB internal storage and possibly a 128GB variant available, and be using Sonys latest image sensor. That last point is especially interesting since Sony just unveiled their latest image sensor for smartphones with built in DRAM:

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201702/17-013E/index.html

It should be able to take some damn fine pictures with the sensor being capable of taking a photo in 1/120th of a second with results similar to what would previously take 1/30th of a second to take. Plus the possibility of 960FPS recording sounds nifty.

If the rumors aren't true, or if it winds up being "meh" I'll probably look at the next Xperia Ultra as I have the original Z Ultra and love big phones :)

MWC can't come soon enough, although some say we won't see the new Premium model at MWC. We'll see.
 
I usually get 5 hrs minimum sot in mi5. On g3 around 3. I never usually run out of the battery as i am light user. If you are businessmen or someone who is on the phone all the time they should buy battery case. 10000 mah once lasts days for g3 g5 or ios devices.
 

Menaged

Member
woo I am getting sick of this godawful battery life on the 6p

I feel the same about my Nexus 5x after Nougat.
With that said, I tried something yesterday that may have helped.
Went to Battery => Battery optimization => all apps => reset permissions.

Seems silly, but I'm quite sure it helped.
 

reKon

Banned
It is insane how much better iOS is at battery. Absolutely insane. I never got great Android SOT battery life like others reported so YMMV but man, iOS is actually usable for hours for me.

Of course, it has its drawbacks in background data pulling. Works perfectly fine for me, though. I notice no difference in how I actually use the phones.

That's because you haven't used the Android phones with the top tier battery life. A lot of people in this thread haven't and even though it's well documented on which phones are offer good battery life. It consistently has not been any Nexus or Pixel phones.

It's usually because people are still chasing after the overrated stock Android experience.

My current phone and prior phone were battery kings, delivered excellent performance, included expandable storage, and have been upgraded to Nougat. If I wasn't in the office all day and using the phone under regular conditions, 6+ hours screen time was typical.
 

ElNino

Member
It is insane how much better iOS is at battery. Absolutely insane. I never got great Android SOT battery life like others reported so YMMV but man, iOS is actually usable for hours for me.

Of course, it has its drawbacks in background data pulling. Works perfectly fine for me, though. I notice no difference in how I actually use the phones.
Is it though? Both my wife (6s) and son's (5s) iPhones seem to have average battery life at best. Neither will come anywhere close to a full day if they are using it much, although my son's phone is a few years old now so that is at least somewhat understandable.

I'm new to Android, but my OP3 easily gets a day+ of moderate usage, and can go 2+ days of light use.
 

teiresias

Member
Since 7.0 is starting to at least roll out in one country, can anyone remind me if upgrading Android breaks Authenticator, or should I deactivate all the services I'm using it for TFA before ever doing that?
 

mackattk

Member
Still loving my Moto Z Play. Best phone I have ever had. I don't think I will be able to go back to a phone that has just a day worth of battery life. Getting about 1.5% battery drain/hour average over my use: ~8 hours of screen on time over 2 days, with a good amount of music streaming in between. Hopefully it will get Android 7 on it soon.
 
That's because you haven't used the Android phones with the top tier battery life. A lot of people in this thread haven't and even though it's well documented on which phones are offer good battery life. It consistently has not been any Nexus or Pixel phones.

It's usually because people are still chasing after the overrated stock Android experience.

My current phone and prior phone were battery kings, delivered excellent performance, included expandable storage, and have been upgraded to Nougat. If I wasn't in the office all day and using the phone under regular conditions, 6+ hours screen time was typical.

I'd rather have zero screen on time than use non-stock Android again.

Motorola's tweaks were the ultimate version. Full stop.
 

andthebeatgoeson

Junior Member
Have a Pixel that I lost at a Farmer's market on Sunday. Not sure where I dropped it but I recognized it before I finished shopping. Went thru all the aisles but couldn't find it. The lady who picked it up must have went outside. After checking lost and found twice, I hauled ass home because I was by myself and wanted to locate it.

Pop open google but I have 2 factor on. So, I had to dig out my 8 digit codes from my keepass. I usually use Keepass on my phone but I set it up on my mac via chrome and a chrome extension. Needless to say, you should think this through before hand. How will you access your backup codes if you lose your phone? How will you access you account if you lose your phone? Can you access it anywhere or do you have the sign on codes printed out?

I say this because I'm not sure of the person who found my phone. She went outside without turning the phone in. I got home in 5 minutes, located it as being outside the farmers market. It has a fingerprint sensor, so it locks when the screen turns off. The fingerprint sensor is a god level upgrade for security. You don't have to worry about your phone locking in 2 minutes or 30 seconds. Before, I used to use 5 minutes so I didn't have to constantly unlock my phone. Now, it's so quick and easy, I rather it just lock. I have sensitive work info on my phone so I need it locked down.

So, over those 5 minutes for me to get home, I see she has the phone outside. With Google 'locate' (or whatever they call it), I sent a message to 'turn the phone in please', you can also give a number where a button will pop up on the lock screen and the person who has your phone and clicks that on screen button is connected to that number you choose. I used my wife's number and haul ass back to the store after she calls to let me know she has the phone. And you can make it ring. I made it ring 4 times, to get someone's attention.

Run back to the store because the lady picked up and said she was at 'customer service.' Not being thorough and just rushing out, I assumed it was a worker. Nope, just a customer. Get back there, ask customer service and they don't know WTF I'm talking about. I start to assume a worker was trying to steal my phone because I only heard 'customer service'. I'm phoneless still, so I hop on their phone, call my wife. Can't figure it out but I'm frantic since I need my phone for work. Rush back home. Unbeknownst to me, my wife calls my phone, gets in touch with the lady while I'm driving home. Get home, find out my wife is on the phone with my phone (the lady who found it) so I grab her phone, haul ass again. She's trying to get her husband, who was picking her up, to wait for me. I'm on the phone, lying, 'I'm 2 minutes away, don't leave.' Get there and she hands it to me as she's standing on the sidewalk.

So, I was helped because I had easy access to my 'single sign' on codes for google via keepass and another computer, being close to my house. This would suck if I was out of town. I was hindered because I didn't think to grab my wife's phone the first time I left the house. I think she was just calling my phone and coordinating with the lady who found it. But if you are by yourself, you may not be able to communicate with your phone. You may hesitate to ask someone to use their phone or a business may not let you use your phone. Either way, I have the phone back.

I think having it locked down via the fingerprint sensor helps. It's useless locked and you can erase it remotely and do other things to help yourself out.
Just FYI.
 
Since 7.0 is starting to at least roll out in one country, can anyone remind me if upgrading Android breaks Authenticator, or should I deactivate all the services I'm using it for TFA before ever doing that?

I've never heard of upgrades messing up with Authenticator.

It's happened a couple of times when Google updated the actually app on iOS, and when they had to reset all the tokens cause their master key got stolen.
 
So you rather have a non working phone than one that works? You don't think that's hyperbole at all?

I'd rather not have Android. Perhaps Huawei or OnePlus have nice OSs/skins, but for me, stock is where it's at. Stock Android isn't perfect, but the most perfect form of it I thought was Moto's additions to handsfree operation and gestures.

For as much as the Note 7 was tempting, it was still Touchwiz and once was enough.
 
I'd rather not have Android. Perhaps Huawei or OnePlus have nice OSs/skins, but for me, stock is where it's at. Stock Android isn't perfect, but the most perfect form of it I thought was Moto's additions to handsfree operation and gestures.

For as much as the Note 7 was tempting, it was still Touchwiz and once was enough.

That's not really what you said though but OK.
 

reKon

Banned
Have a Pixel that I lost at a Farmer's market on Sunday. Not sure where I dropped it but I recognized it before I finished shopping. Went thru all the aisles but couldn't find it. The lady who picked it up must have went outside. After checking lost and found twice, I hauled ass home because I was by myself and wanted to locate it.

Pop open google but I have 2 factor on. So, I had to dig out my 8 digit codes from my keepass. I usually use Keepass on my phone but I set it up on my mac via chrome and a chrome extension. Needless to say, you should think this through before hand. How will you access your backup codes if you lose your phone? How will you access you account if you lose your phone? Can you access it anywhere or do you have the sign on codes printed out?

I say this because I'm not sure of the person who found my phone. She went outside without turning the phone in. I got home in 5 minutes, located it as being outside the farmers market. It has a fingerprint sensor, so it locks when the screen turns off. The fingerprint sensor is a god level upgrade for security. You don't have to worry about your phone locking in 2 minutes or 30 seconds. Before, I used to use 5 minutes so I didn't have to constantly unlock my phone. Now, it's so quick and easy, I rather it just lock. I have sensitive work info on my phone so I need it locked down.

So, over those 5 minutes for me to get home, I see she has the phone outside. With Google 'locate' (or whatever they call it), I sent a message to 'turn the phone in please', you can also give a number where a button will pop up on the lock screen and the person who has your phone and clicks that on screen button is connected to that number you choose. I used my wife's number and haul ass back to the store after she calls to let me know she has the phone. And you can make it ring. I made it ring 4 times, to get someone's attention.

Run back to the store because the lady picked up and said she was at 'customer service.' Not being thorough and just rushing out, I assumed it was a worker. Nope, just a customer. Get back there, ask customer service and they don't know WTF I'm talking about. I start to assume a worker was trying to steal my phone because I only heard 'customer service'. I'm phoneless still, so I hop on their phone, call my wife. Can't figure it out but I'm frantic since I need my phone for work. Rush back home. Unbeknownst to me, my wife calls my phone, gets in touch with the lady while I'm driving home. Get home, find out my wife is on the phone with my phone (the lady who found it) so I grab her phone, haul ass again. She's trying to get her husband, who was picking her up, to wait for me. I'm on the phone, lying, 'I'm 2 minutes away, don't leave.' Get there and she hands it to me as she's standing on the sidewalk.

So, I was helped because I had easy access to my 'single sign' on codes for google via keepass and another computer, being close to my house. This would suck if I was out of town. I was hindered because I didn't think to grab my wife's phone the first time I left the house. I think she was just calling my phone and coordinating with the lady who found it. But if you are by yourself, you may not be able to communicate with your phone. You may hesitate to ask someone to use their phone or a business may not let you use your phone. Either way, I have the phone back.

I think having it locked down via the fingerprint sensor helps. It's useless locked and you can erase it remotely and do other things to help yourself out.
Just FYI.

OK, how do you do this? I did not see any option for this under Android device manager when I've tried to locate a lost phone in the past.
 

yyzjohn

Banned
OK, how do you do this? I did not see any option for this under Android device manager when I've tried to locate a lost phone in the past.

When you hit the "lock" button in Android Device Manager there's options to set a message and a phone number on the lock screen for someone to call that number
 

Bboy AJ

My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
That's because you haven't used the Android phones with the top tier battery life. A lot of people in this thread haven't and even though it's well documented on which phones are offer good battery life. It consistently has not been any Nexus or Pixel phones.

It's usually because people are still chasing after the overrated stock Android experience.

My current phone and prior phone were battery kings, delivered excellent performance, included expandable storage, and have been upgraded to Nougat. If I wasn't in the office all day and using the phone under regular conditions, 6+ hours screen time was typical.
Perhaps but there are no Android phones to me but Nexus and Pixel. I am not interested in any other Android phone. I'll just go to iOS.
 

kharma45

Member
Is it though? Both my wife (6s) and son's (5s) iPhones seem to have average battery life at best. Neither will come anywhere close to a full day if they are using it much, although my son's phone is a few years old now so that is at least somewhat understandable.

I'm new to Android, but my OP3 easily gets a day+ of moderate usage, and can go 2+ days of light use.

Even my 6S Plus isn't as long lasting as it was, and it's only from august. I used to get 12 hours of usage on the battery screen, now it's around 8 or so at best.
 

this_guy

Member
Perhaps but there are no Android phones to me but Nexus and Pixel. I am not interested in any other Android phone. I'll just go to iOS.

Your problem isn't with Android - it's that you limit yourself to phones with battery life issues or you go with iPhone.
 

Paganmoon

Member
My work iPhone 5s can eat through battery at times as well. I think all platforms have their apps that occasionally bug out and consume battery.
Skype for Business used to be the one on the iPhone for me, it's settled down quite a bit as of late though.
 
Random thing that still irks me about Android/Google. I still can't get tennis updates in Google Now. Google has the info as they have SCRBs with standings, schedule, and ranking information, but they still haven't put it in Google Now.
 
Does the Android 2.0/New LG Smartwatch announcement this week have any chance of being exciting to anyone outside of people that already own a smartwatch?

I have been sitting on the fence for a couple months now about buying a Gear S3 (I own an S7 Edge) but won't bite because I don't like the look of the the Frontier, the other model is not as feature rich, and the Samsung ecosystem in watch form seems completely lacking.

I want one of these devices so bad but can't work up the excitement to actually spend the money on one. Does Android 2.0 seem like it will be the new hotness?

Am I just being a picky asshole that needs to admit that smartwatches are not for me?

Please help me...
 
The back might be a train wreck and I'd still never get a samsung phone but props to sammy for the front cuz it's beautiful and it's what I hope google can match with the pixel and apple with the iphone 8. Low expectations on the pixel front :/

 

yyzjohn

Banned
I see "enable lock and erase".

What if I don't want to erase anything..


Not sure what you're seeing but I have 3 choices. "Ring", "Lock" and "Erase"

Lock brings up the form where you can lock your device remotely, and put a message on the screen.
 
I see "enable lock and erase".

What if I don't want to erase anything..

When you click it, you'll get a pop that says:
To use the lock or erase options, blah blah blah set it up

The icon should really be separate, but google gonna google. On the web interface they are two different options.

Select the device your on and you'll see it turn into three buttons in the app.
 

Vanillalite

Ask me about the GAF Notebook
The back might be a train wreck and I'd still never get a samsung phone but props to sammy for the front cuz it's beautiful and it's what I hope google can match with the pixel and apple with the iphone 8. Low expectations on the pixel front :/

It looks so chunky?

Maybe that's just the render/angle?
 

Bboy AJ

My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Does the Android 2.0/New LG Smartwatch announcement this week have any chance of being exciting to anyone outside of people that already own a smartwatch?

I have been sitting on the fence for a couple months now about buying a Gear S3 (I own an S7 Edge) but won't bite because I don't like the look of the the Frontier, the other model is not as feature rich, and the Samsung ecosystem in watch form seems completely lacking.

I want one of these devices so bad but can't work up the excitement to actually spend the money on one. Does Android 2.0 seem like it will be the new hotness?

Am I just being a picky asshole that needs to admit that smartwatches are not for me?

Please help me...
Just get a cheaper model. There isn't much difference between watches. Try it out. If you like it, get a nicer model.
 

reKon

Banned
Mr.Shrugglesツ;229910256 said:
When you click it, you'll get a pop that says:


The icon should really be separate, but google gonna google. On the web interface they are two different options.

Select the device your on and you'll see it turn into three buttons in the app.

OK I see. I've set it up now. I'm pretty sure that enabling this option is one of the things that increases Android System usage and causes wake locks, but I'll have to test it out and see.
 
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