yet_another_alt
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How the fuck? Were most of them from before the loot nerf?
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Woo-Fu
Banned
No, I don't think I even hit 30 at that point. Spend 1/3 of your time doing your legendary contracts each day, the next 1/3 grinding Tyrant Hive, the last 1/3 in freeplay, all on GM1 and you'll get legendary drops now and then and plenty of MW.
Meccs
, grind gm1 Tyrant Hive, the guaranteed drop is always an ability. You'll get a grenade sooner or later. Took me forever to get Voltaic Dome. Fortunately flamethrower/shock coil build works better in Tyrant Hive than anywhere else, lol.
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shark sandwich
tenuously links anime, pedophile and incels
Haha WTF? This is the most amazing bug I’ve ever heard of if true.
Imagine your starting weapon being the most OP item in the game, in a loot game.
Ozymandias013
Banned
^^^holly shit,does this game will ever be able to actually work !!! 
and this is from Bioware,its like they never made an rpg game
and this is from Bioware,its like they never made an rpg game
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Ulysses 31
Gold Member
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JareBear: Remastered
Banned
wow
Sigh
Do we even know everything in the update? And we have to wait until the 12th for it right?
ehhhhhh
Sigh
Do we even know everything in the update? And we have to wait until the 12th for it right?
ehhhhhh
Ozymandias013
Banned
In the end what I get from the new discovery is that we shouldn't be annoying of the endgame loot anymore,who cares about legendaries or masterworks when you can do just fine with a lvl 1 weapon.From the comments there even the lvl 1 abilities are better
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Woo-Fu
Banned
It isn't a bug. It is intentional. This is how they let people with disparate levels play together and each feel challenged. The mobs scale to the weapon/ability attacking them.
The quick fix for this is raising the minimum scaling based upon difficulty chosen for the mission/stronghold/contract/freeplay.
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JareBear: Remastered
Banned
Ok so maybe not a bug, but I have a hard time believing it is working as intended, and you yourself recommend a fix. So its broken. Bug, glitch, broken, whatever.
You love defending the game. Good for you
SkinnerSw33t
Member
Yeah. It works. Look at what happens to my armor as well. lmao.
Woo-Fu
Banned
I'm not defending the game, cupcake, I'm pointing out that Bioware doesn't know wtf they're doing when it comes to crafting a looter/shooter. They're in way over their collective head on this one. That isn't a defense, that is a statement of what would appear to be fact, based upon Anthem.
I'm sure the scaling is working as intended. I'm also sure they never considered, much less tested what would happen if a fully geared character went back to lvl 1 weapons/abilities. That's why there are no numbers on the health/shield bars for enemies. They'd make the scaling painfully obvious.
I tested this in gm1 tyrant, btw. A lvl 1 cloudburst hits for 224 a shot with my other gear and kills an elite hunter faster than a mw endless siege hitting for 3200 a shot. LOL.
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SkinnerSw33t
Member
Fwiw. The armor seems to be inconsistent and more a visual bug. But the weapons and abilities, yeah, crazy...
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
shark sandwich
tenuously links anime, pedophile and incels
No, it’s not intentional that level 1 weapon does more damage than a level 35 masterwork in identical circumstances. That’s a bug with the way their scaling system works.
AfricanKing
Member
So the first weapon you trash is somehow the best ..
What an amazing fuck up
What an amazing fuck up
SkinnerSw33t
Member
You can get some of this stuff with default loadouts.
But I think this has sapped my interest in the game more than anything.
On to Torchlight Frontiers until Division 2.
But I think this has sapped my interest in the game more than anything.
On to Torchlight Frontiers until Division 2.
Typhares
Member
This is BW response:
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
If I would have known I had the best gear at the start of the game I could have quit playing a lot sooner.
And this is the reason why such bullshit exist. No Level 1 layer should not be able to play with level 45 players. What kind of bullshit is this. Bioware has lost ANY knowledge about RPG systems....
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Some people think it's a bug, some people think this is done purposely so gamers with shitty weapons can keep up with leveled up tanks? So what's the point of upgrading gear if the enemies scale even harder?
Stick to turn based RPGs Bioware.
Stick to turn based RPGs Bioware.
NO
Bioware Should never EVER create RPGs anymore. They lost all abilities to design RPG elements. Level scaling in such a game is utterly stupid. Who ever thought of this should be fired and never find a job in this industry again.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Maybe that is the point of Anthem.
For once in a game, you start as the most powerful you'll ever be and by the time you finish the game, your character is the weakest ever.
Reverse psychological creative genius.
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SkinnerSw33t
Member
An OT shouldn't really be a posting ground for dipshits who don't play the game.
I thought the game was just technically broken and the design would just need a bit of work... it sounds like the entire design is shit. I understand why they did this... its ridiculous tho I could buy a premade system and it would be better.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
In Bioware's next game (Dragon Age sequel), someone should test if a rusty dagger does the most damage.
SkinnerSw33t
Member
Make a new loadout for a Ranger.
Woo-Fu
Banned
It isn't doing more damage. The target has less armor/shield because you're attacking it with a level 1 gun/ability.
Level 1 cloudburst does ~224 damage per hit, MW Endless Siege doing ~3200 damage per hit(with the rest of my gear). The siege is doing more damage, the problem is that the mob scaling gives the target a lot more shield/armor when attacking with a lvl 45 gun/ability than with a lvl 1.
The numbers you see are real. The numbers you don't see are changing as you switch levels of weapon/ability. Which is exactly why you're not shown those numbers.
This is exactly what I'd expect with the type of scaling they've implemented. Just a matter of tweaking the curve. Is basically a graph with weapon/ability level on one axis, mob shield/armor on the other. One graph per difficulty level, with some mobs having individual modifiers.
Or I could be wrong.
I suppose another way to do this is behind the scenes instead of having raw damage numbers have percentage-based damage. That way nothing with the mobs is changing on the fly. Gun X at level Y does a fixed percentage of damage to mob Z at a given difficulty level and then you stack all the modifiers on top of that. That'd probably be cleaner on the back end but you'd have to change it on the player side so they could have traditional damage numbers to see.As far as this particular imbalance goes, I would suspect that level 1 weapons aren't intended to have all the modifiers a fully geared player can stack on them, which means they'd need to be a higher percentage of damage for people using them at the appropriate levels to still get the job done. That'd be why they outclass endgame weapons currently when scaled for endgame content.
tldr; lots of theorycrafting based upon limited player experience.
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IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
Psykodad
Banned
So much calculations and discussions about the scaling, while the most simple and logical explanation is that they just reduced the damage dealt as you and your weapons "increase in power" and they just hide this by using fake numbers and smoke n mirrors for a false sense of increased difficulty.
SkinnerSw33t
Member
Buffing base damage for mastercraft weapons as well as being able to prime titans seems like a big deal.
Also, I hope the bulwark increase is good. I use it as is because muster point isn't practical often and it's a nice "oh, shit" option to res a squadmate.
Also, I hope the bulwark increase is good. I use it as is because muster point isn't practical often and it's a nice "oh, shit" option to res a squadmate.
Screamer-RSA
Member
Ozymandias013
Banned
I think I've read on twitter that its because of Origins,and you can find the fix onlineReally? Fuck them then. My gf’s 1070ti is sitting there with 30% usage staring at 40fps because het 6 core 4ghz cpu is running 100% the whole time
Screamer-RSA
Member
Thanks, but yah the fix is to disable Origin In-game. She has been using it for a while now, it didn't make a huge difference. Still not at the performance pre day 1 patch
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JareBear: Remastered
Banned
I’m glad they said they have a plan for ongoing progression (for earnes XP) but this is something I wish every ARPG launched with.
SkinnerSw33t
Member
It should have launched just like Destiny and Division. Every time you flip your level, get a loot box. Or in this case coins.
As for the timer, I think most people will still res particularly for their squadmates that are contributing and just get in a bad spot.
As for the timer, I think most people will still res particularly for their squadmates that are contributing and just get in a bad spot.