Ted Nugent is worse, he's a great guitarist but a terrible and hypocritical human being whom preaches Repuplican values but had no issues with draft dodging and sleeping with 13 year old girls.
Anti-Trump Conservatives react to state of the Republican Party after Trump's Win.
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Such a worthless fucking douche. Parades the southern battle flag around for... what reason again?
CrocMother
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Is this supposed to be an attempt at a diss?
What do you expect? Brady is a winner, and Trump is a winner. It's exactly the kind of candidate an elite athlete like Tom should endorse. I think I speak for Pats fans everywhere.
djplaeskool
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Crooked people, the both of them.
Nomadic Sparks
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Further more, the delusional, drug addled shrill ranting about Hillary's private email server that will *somehow* cost Hillary the election bullshit that fox news peddles to the gullible or deluded viewer is because the GOP is so obsessed with sending Hillary to prison for some *convoluted* bullshit reason that may or may not have to do with Benghazi is in the political biomedical that "But my guy is good" contributes to on a continual basis.
Modern conservatism has continually shown, not just in America, but in the west at least, to be at best unable to keep up with the rapid pace of globalization. At worst, the ideology and it's unyielding loyalty to the idea that capitalism and free market capitalism with no regulation or regards to worker and consumer safety will somehow spur on growth as though that concept that has any foundation in this decade so far, is incompatible.
The rationale of "but my guy is good" for continuous support for a party that, in all purposes would rather subvert and unavel the founding document of America on the basis of so called "National Security" and "Religious Liberty" then actually do their fucking jobs for the good of everyone is irrational, if that person using that tired excuse would stop snorting cocaine for 5 goddamn minutes and use the part of their brain that is used for critical thinking, if they are able to.
25+ years in a Christian Conservative household in a primarily WASPy county in fucking Missouri + 8 years of supporting Obama = I tire so goddamn much of this alt reality that THE GOP presents to many people who are uneducated for various reasons as the dominating and all consuming narrative that makes people think "But my guy is good" is motivation to continually support toxic politician who pump toxic sludge into a nuclear nostalgia fueled wasteland that is American Conservatism.
I would rather that the more open minded and moderate libertarians who are willing to negotiate with the more moderate socialists that will make up the Democrat party when Hillary is president.
TLDR: Why yes i'am bitter Bernie Sanders supporter, how could you tell?
Omegasquash
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Ha, Jim Webb. As if.
Sirpopopop
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So why is Clinton as the nominee funny?
shadowsdarknes
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It's not really hijacked.
That's like saying the progressive wing of the party gaining influence within the party is the Democratic party being hijacked.
Donald Trump is the perfect GOP candidate.
- He's unapologetic. Neither are conservatives. Facts be damned.
-He race baits. Conservatives have little empathy for minority issues.
-The bravado is perfect. "We are going to bomb the shit out of ISIS" makes neocon types rock hard.
-Private sector executive experience tells conservatives he will work to ensure a thriving business economy.
-Hates illegal immigration. Conservatives are largely terrified of the changing demographics in this country.
-He's a faux christian. Like much of the Christian Right.
-Not particularly sympathetic towards women's related issues.
He just doesn't play the same rules the other politicians do.
He doesn't walk the same fine line of coded language that the rest of the GOP does.
If Trump gets crushed, they might have to rethink their ways. Those who endorsed him will look bad. But they will push to make Hillary a one term president. It will probably work. Progressives won't give her the second benefit of the doubt. And conservatives will try someone new.
If they get beat again in 2020, they will need a new strategy. I think if Hillary were to win in 2020, then we will end up with a new strong progressive candidate in 2024.
LegendofJoe
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This is why I wish Hillary and the DNC were forward thinking enough to nominate a VP that could win the Presidency in 2020. I'd only plan on serving one term if I were Hillary. The party needs a standard bearer that less people have a negative view of in 2020. Otherwise we can look forward to conservative gerrymandering at the state level to be locked in for another 10 years.
Doc Holliday
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Likability is not set in stone. If Hilary becomes president and manages to destroy Isis, or is at the helm during a booming economy why the hell would she not run again?
They will vote for Trump in the end.
Just like the Bernie bros will vote for Hillary.
LegendofJoe
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It's certainly possible her liability numbers could improve, I doubt it though.
Consider that she was at 60% approval while Secretary of State, for some reason (and this is a thing that happens with most women) she's more popular while she has a job than while she's running for said job.
Bruce Springsteen
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Was watching Daily Show last night, the media acts like Trump wasn't voted in overwhelmingly by the people but just decided to buy the nomination
Too much blame on Trump and not enough focus on why people are voting for him in the first place
damn, founding father was jacked
Too much blame on Trump and not enough focus on why people are voting for him in the first place
damn, founding father was jacked
Even when they "attempt" to focus on why people are voting for him, they miss the point. Its always the voters are angry! They spew the same PR the Republican party at large uses to paint the current status of the US and Obama admin as doom and gloom. Economy is failing (its not) and the US will be destroyed!
I think its supposed to be Uncle Sam no? Either way he doesn't skip leg day.
Abstrusity
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It's too late. All their talk of freedom, their fears of oppression, the creeping realization that they have lost control...it means nothing.
They never realized until it was too late, that freedom, true freedom, can only be bought with the oppression of others. So they got what they wanted. True freedom.
Just not their own.
They never realized until it was too late, that freedom, true freedom, can only be bought with the oppression of others. So they got what they wanted. True freedom.
Just not their own.
Ninja Scooter
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Kid Rock and Ted Nugent I would have expected, but shame on you Antonio Sabato Jr.
Abstrusity
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Of course Voight supports Trump -- didn't anyone else see Enemy of the State? :^)
Bruce Springsteen
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It's such a boring, incorrect and lazy narrative the media runs with. Because Cruz being #2 just shows it's less about Trump and more about the voters, but that's not a sexy story
Fine Ham Abounds
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Crimson_Fate
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At least we know where Satan stands, and he didn't have an unsecured email server.
They left out Tom Brady
Bruce Springsteen
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Clinton/Warren would be the dream ticket
Croatoan
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The economy is set to crash this year, like worse than 2008 levels of fucked, so I wouldn't expect her to inherit a "Booming Economy" or have one during the first four years.
If the crash is before the election Trump wins by blaming Obama and claiming Hilary is more of the same.
A lot of people are about to be blindsided by something market analysts have been predicting for a while.
We have no reason to doubt that Hillary will defeat Isis. After all, what's number 1 in her 'Defeat Isis' strategy?
this is news to me. is there any merit to this statement?
No.
At least we know where Satan stands, and he didn't have an unsecured email server.
I'm sure that's an Old Harry's Game plotline.
Pilgrimzero
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From what I've seen it seems that conservatives hopes are now tied to Cruz being Trumps VP.
Which I could see him doing to try to get more votes.
Which I could see him doing to try to get more votes.
You guys see Clinton's new anti-trump ad that uses Republicans own words against him.
It's fucking brutal. She should just run a version of that through every republican state that's even remotely near flipping.
That would be hilarious considering the on video quotes we have from Cruz about Trump...
It's fucking brutal. She should just run a version of that through every republican state that's even remotely near flipping.
That would be hilarious considering the on video quotes we have from Cruz about Trump...
Two months ago, that would have been a marvelous idea!
Now... Why would two people that clearly hate each other and have said awful, nasty things about each other want to be on the same ticket? I guess Cruz is blindly ambitious, so there's always a chance.
jack_package_200
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Bruce Springsteen
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If she's VP that means the presidency is her next stop after that, that's slightly more important and influential than a senate seat
Seriously, I don't understand at all people who keep saying Warren should be VP. She's fucking phenomenal in the Senate. Why tie her to the vice presidency? Like, do you understand how the system works at all? If you want Warren campaigning and stuff, well... she can do that while in the Senate. And she probably will.
As much as I'd kill for a Warren presidency... no. She'll be way too old in 8 years. We need someone younger in there. In the meantime Warren can do a ton of good in the Senate.
She's too old to run in 8 years. This is as high as she goes.
Also this.
Haha, wow. Reminds me of a lot of those montages of politicians saying multiple contradictory things that the daily show puts together
DragonSworne
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You never know. Hillary could get impeached and we will need someone like Warren to step up in 2020 if that ever happens.
eBay Huckster
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well, the economy is slowing down somewhat, but to say it's gonna be "worse than 2008" is a dozen different types of hyperbolic
Messofanego
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Jon Voight, the conservative villain in every movie. Not even surprised lol
mariachi507
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It's alright, we'll always have Deliverance, Midnight Cowboy, and Anaconda.
Impeaching a Clinton. That would be taking 90's nostalgia entirely to far.
The only one I'm surprised by is Antonio Sabato Jr.
There is no shock that a racist like Ted Nugent(yes pristine_condition he is a racist) would support another racist.
Yekshemesh
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The "Dancing With The Stars" Expendables.
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Ninja Scooter
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Tom Brady still hasn't given his full support until he hears Trump's official position on Uggs. I already know my official position on Uggs, and it's reverse cowgirl.
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