AP: Clinton clinches Democratic Nomination

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Well, looks like I'm not voting Democrat then.

"Thanks buddy"

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Does anyone in their right mind think superdelegates, pretty much by nature long time democrats involved in the party, will vote for the person who just now joined the party and who has thrown them insults over the person who has grinded it out with the party for decades?
Yep. The superdelegates have always been Hillary votes. They exist in case things appear close. Sanders didn't get close enough.
 
I swear this is babies first election for most people.

Not voting for Hillary if you live in a swing county in a swing state is the same as voting for Trump.

Throwing a tantrum because the candidate you like didn't get enough votes isn't going to fix anything. It's what my son does when I tell him he has to eat everything on his plate.
 
Relying on superdelegates to vote against the will of the people in the biggest subversion of democracy in American politics since Tammany Hall and an astounding disenfranchisement of an entire region of the country for an Independent was certainly a flawed strategy.
To be fair, the super delegates were on Clinton's side before the will of registered democrats was known.
 
I swear this is babies first election for most people.

Not voting for Hillary if you live in a swing county in a swing state is the same as voting for Trump.

Throwing a tantrum because the candidate you like didn't get enough votes isn't going to fix anything. It's what my son does when I tell him he has to eat everything on his plate.
Political science should be a mandatory thing in high school. There are so many that just don't understand how the process works.
 
Superdelegates also put Obama over the top ahead of Clinton eight years ago... So they're obviously all shills, this whole process is a fraud and Bernard should be nominee right now, right?
 
To be fair, the super delegates were on Clinton's side before the will of registered democrats was known.
And there's absolutely no precedence for them switching when another candidate is chosen in the primary, right?

Man I was 14 in 2008 and I paid enough attention to know about superdelegates, it's not that hard to do the bare minimum of research.
 
Haha. Whining about supers. She got more states, more pledged and more raw votes. If that's not the will of the people then I don't know what is.
 
Oh. I wasn't expecting the AP to call it until tomorrow. Guess some Super Delegates couldn't keep quiet enough for 1 extra day.

But the Supers are basically irrelevant to the final outcome, besides making the result obvious a tad sooner. By tomorrow, even if she loses California, she'll still be well over the 50% mark for pledged delegates.

Hillary will have over 2026 pledged delegates tomorrow after California is counted. 2026 is the magic number when counting only the voter awarded pledged delegates, not counting the Supers.

And the Supers will obviously go with whoever won the most pledged delegates, like they've always done. To do otherwise would be to subvert the will of the voters.

Congrats Hillary!
 
They were on her side before the Democratic primary started in 2008 too.

If the people wanted Bernie, the superdelegates would be voting for Bernie.
You would assume, but this was not a given. It also didn't stop news outlets from reporting them along with pledged delegates.

I'm not sure why the system exists if they always vote with pledged delegates.

Sanders wasn't close though.
 
I dunno, seems like a cheap way for the media to declare her the nominee before the California results. Almost like they don't want people to come out and vote for Bernie.

And no, don't call me out for being a hurt Sanders supporter. I know he won't be the nominee.
 
They did.
And she won.

She was leading, but she wouldn't have clinched yet if it wasn't for the super delegates. They make up 24% of her delegates. It's incredible to me that 571 people can count for 24% of her vote. Talk about marginalizing voters.

And before anybody says anything, I would say this if her and Bernie's positions were switched. It's totally anti-democratic.
 
You would assume, but this was not a given. It also didn't stop news outlets from reporting them along with pledged delegates.

Supers have existed since 1980 and have never once gone against the will of the popular vote.

The super delegate system is fine.
 
I'm not voting from Trump either. Probably won't vote at all.
Republicans love low turnout for a reason. You're basically voting for Trump if you stay home.
Of course a Trump supporter could use the same logic and say not voting is a vote for Hillary
Nah, unlike Republicans, Democrats don't actively make voting harder because only one party benefits from low turnout. Not the same.
 
I'm so happy right now.

The Democratic Party making history again!

I hope we get Obama's endorsement tomorrow too.
 
Good to see CPUSA's favorite candidate win.


Now I hope there will actually be something left resembling an at least social-democratic movement after all this because else this has all been for nothing.
 
Of course a Trump supporter could use the same logic and say not voting is a vote for Hillary

Good thing only one of them has the blessing and support of the KKK and NK, though! So while you're technically right, I hope you can see the urgency for the other candidate.

Edit: Also low turnout and otherwise shrinking the voter base does benefit the GOP given the realities of current demographics in the US.
 
She was leading, but she wouldn't have clinched yet if it wasn't for the super delegates. They make up 24% of her delegates. It's incredible to me that 571 people can count for 24% of her vote. Talk about marginalizing voters.

And before anybody says anything, I would say this if her and Bernie's positions were switched. It's totally anti-democratic.
She has over 3 million more votes and almost 300 more pledged delegates anayways. And super delegates have always switched if the will of the people is in favor of the other candidate
 
To be fair, the super delegates were on Clinton's side before the will of registered democrats was known.
Sounds like they picked the right candidate from the jump. Maybe it's because Bernie was always a long shot and really didn't have a chance.

Or maybe they're all establishment shills determined to fight the will of the
young white
people.
 
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