I did. I saw that you can bring your Apple Laptop screen into the Vision OS, but Vision OS doesn’t have a desktop of sorts. It would be nice to have it function like a laptop with multiple screens considering the resolution of the lenses. If it had that as a stand-alone feature it would be work the price of admission, especially if i could use a mouse and keyboard with itit does include a full OS (and a full M2 CPU), did you watch the presentation?
I meant its a abnormal case for what most would spend on a high end rig.Just because I’m not some poor fuck scrounging for the bare minimum doesn’t mean I got ripped off. I’m well aware that paying for large LCDs for my AIO is unnecessary but I’m not you, I have money to spare.
I am not trying to make up anything. I just show they way it actually is.
This really isn't as bad as you are trying to make it out to be. This has happened before and they always bounce back within a few weeks. If this downward trend continues past that - then it is "getting worse and worse".
Great high budget AAA games. That’s what I need. I already have a Quest 2, it’a not used much at the moment but not because it’s bad or big or unfomfortable but because of the games library. Fortunately it has SteamVR compatibility, modders has improved some of my favorites a lot. But it’s not enough, it needs a serious AAA push, the whole VR/AR industry needs that.it doesn't need to be some tiny dinky ass pair of glasses. It just needs to be light and comfortable. Like some regular ski goggles
Uh, ok….I did not think anyone would ever manage to beat the utter stupidity that was the presentation of HoloLens... but somehow Apple managed the impossible. This must be the worst tech announcement I have ever seen, and not by a small margin. I really want my 40 minutes of life back. What an absolute, unmitigated trainwreck.
Those who hype this turd deserve to be mocked more than the NFT bros.
... and probably are the same people.
I’m not sure what world you lived in where the utility of the iPhone wasn’t entirely apparent. People scoffed at the price sure, but everyone I knew understood what made it valuable. Let’s also not forget that the original iPhone was 500 bucks. That’s a pretty STEEP difference.There was a time the utility of the iphone also didn't make sense - "why would I pay this much money to have internet on my phone". Apple made it the norm and must have
I’m not too rich but I’m inside their ecosystem already and I think I could save up the cash through stocks until it launches and buy it if I wanted. But I don’t see the point. What should I use it for if AAA devs yet again sit on the fence like they do with VR? Watch movies no longer than 2 hours, play mobile games I could just as well play on my phone or Apple TV, drag around windows, and look like a dork in facetime calls who waste too much money on tech junk?Not sure but seems like a great product if I was too rich.
The whole point of Vision OS is that your entire range of vision is a desktop. You can move windows around, run apps, etc. You don't need a laptop, although you can integrate with it. No mouse and keyboard, it is all gestures and eye tracking.I did. I saw that you can bring your Apple Laptop screen into the Vision OS, but Vision OS doesn’t have a desktop of sorts. It would be nice to have it function like a laptop with multiple screens considering the resolution of the lenses. If it had that as a stand-alone feature it would be work the price of admission, especially if i could use a mouse and keyboard with it
It's still a great product even if it's not affordable for you.Not sure but seems like a great product if I was too rich.
This is further away from Vive than Vive is from Oculus DK1 in terms of technology. Also in terms of timeAll i can say is if you are thinking about buying one try it first, I bought a vive in 2017 on a whim, and its been stuck in its box unused since then because i get serious motion sickness that lasts all the rest of the day.
I would love to play Half Life Alex but can't.
'Spatial computer'. Apple also did not use the word "AI" once in their presentation. They know what they're doing, those hipster fucksI don’t believe at any point they said this is a VR headset.
This is meant to be used as an augmented reality (AR) headset. I also don’t think that gaming is the priority for this device right now.
It's still a great product even if it's not affordable for you.
Future? Hmmm...People so fixated on the price. Meanwhile, Apple getting involved is a HUGE step forward for the future of VR.
So if you were too rich, this expensive gimmick would turn into a great product?Not about being affordable, it's the most expensive gimmick in the market.
Who wants a PSVR2 after seeing the Vision Pro, though?On the bright side, this makes PSVR2 look a whole lot more attainable.
You're right, I should play GT7 on a Vision Pro instead.Who wants a PSVR2 after seeing the Vision Pro, though?
I mean you'd want to if you could.You're right, I should play GT7 on a Vision Pro instead.
I mean, if I had to pick between the two, I'd def get the PSVR.Who wants a PSVR2 after seeing the Vision Pro, though?
Its specs are so much worse, though.I mean, if I had to pick between the two, I'd def get the PSVR.
I am not trying to make up anything. I just show they way it actually is.
If I could drop $3500 and connect it to a PS5? Yeah, I guess I would, but...I mean you'd want to if you could.
Which is my point exactly. Even if it's unaffordable and not part of the Playstation ecosystem, just knowing the Vision Pro exists instantly makes the PSVR2 less desirable.If I could drop $3500 and connect it to a PS5? Yeah, I guess I would, but...
Its focus doesn't seem to be in gaming at all.Extremely expensive, and people who are heavily invested in Apple's ecosystem (like me) aren't there for gaming.
A day later and this price is still pretty gasp-inducing. I expected north of $1000, maybe even $1800 or $2000 base price with configurations well into the twos. $3500 makes this accessible to three audiences:
1) the youtube/internet tech crowd who will get them for free
2) true apple fanatics who will be there a week early to camp out in front of stores and dump 2 paychecks on it
3) rich people / rich people's kids
None of these groups are remotely mainstream. What's more, the mainstream doesn't even have access to these groups in day to day life. I remember before I had a smartphone, seeing people at school and on the bus using their iPhones and knowing I wanted one. With this thing, I question how much I actually want it, I won't know anyone who owns one, and even when I see it in public, it's not like I can experience what the user is seeing. It's easier to just ignore.
VR/AR has had enough trouble getting traction as it is even in the $500 range. This seems like a miss, but what do I know.
Of course I'd choose the Vison Pro if price wasn't an issue, that's my point, Vision Pro's price makes the PSVR2 more do-able from a price point, not desirable. That's all I'm saying. Obviously, I know the V Pro is a 5+ years ahead of PSVR2.Which is my point exactly. Even if it's unaffordable and not part of the Playstation ecosystem, just knowing the Vision Pro exists instantly makes the PSVR2 less desirable.
I guess in some abstract comparison sense, though the value proposition hasn't been improved whatsoever by this development...Of course I'd choose the Vison Pro if price wasn't an issue, that's my point, Vision Pro's price makes the PSVR2 more do-able from a price point, not desirable. That's all I'm saying. Obviously, I know the V Pro is a 5+ years ahead of PSVR2.
I guess in some abstract comparison sense, though the value proposition hasn't been improved whatsoever by this development...
PSVR2 is much worse hardware-wise, especially the screens. On the other hand, it has a lot more functionality that I would actually want.Its specs are so much worse, though.
I actually agree neither is a sensible purchase right now.
what does this have to do with loyalty?"Just how deep does our brainwashed brand loyalty run?"
"Only one way to find out."
The whole point of Vision OS is that your entire range of vision is a desktop. You can move windows around, run apps, etc. You don't need a laptop, although you can integrate with it. No mouse and keyboard, it is all gestures and eye tracking.
I'm not saying it'll be impossible to buy a headset on a middle class income, particularly with today's culture of buying everything on credit. Sure there's plenty of people who could go out and pay cash for one if they were so inclined. I question how many people will actually do it.For the rich / rich people's kids? Nah, mate. I am easily mid to lower income and I could get this with basic savings in a few months. But I also don't live like a moron in a massive city with absurd rent costs.
On the not-so-bright side this makes all other headsets look dated. Quest 3 was just announced and all I’m thinking now is: Meh.On the bright side, this makes PSVR2 look a whole lot more attainable.
Yes I see...impressive but still with a shadow so more like wearing light shades than full unfettered eye contact...don't think that will fly...unless our norms change...The external OLED display allows for passthrough and shows the wearer's eyes in realtime to those surrounding them.
I'm not saying it'll be impossible to buy a headset on a middle class income, particularly with today's culture of buying everything on credit. Sure there's plenty of people who could go out and pay cash for one if they were so inclined. I question how many people will actually do it.
$3500 is a fuckin hurdle to jump, even if you make a lot of money.
When they figure out how to sell these as a set of four headsets and one compute unit so it can actually replace your TV for $2500 ...reckon it will then become mainstream.A day later and this price is still pretty gasp-inducing. I expected north of $1000, maybe even $1800 or $2000 base price with configurations well into the twos. $3500 makes this accessible to three audiences:
1) the youtube/internet tech crowd who will get them for free
2) true apple fanatics who will be there a week early to camp out in front of stores and dump 2 paychecks on it
3) rich people / rich people's kids
None of these groups are remotely mainstream. What's more, the mainstream doesn't even have access to these groups in day to day life. I remember before I had a smartphone, seeing people at school and on the bus using their iPhones and knowing I wanted one. With this thing, I question how much I actually want it, I won't know anyone who owns one, and even when I see it in public, it's not like I can experience what the user is seeing. It's easier to just ignore.
VR/AR has had enough trouble getting traction as it is even in the $500 range. This seems like a miss, but what do I know.