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Applying for jobs is exhausting and soul-crushing

Well, I deleted some fillers that didn't make very much sense. I tried to keep the ones that gets to the point for the job duties and jobs I'm seeking. Obviously cut n paste screwed the layout:

EXPERIENCE
Sr. Sales Associate
Sports Authority – Clearwater, FL
03/2011-Present

-Communicate effectively with customers by regularly answering their questions in person-to- person situations or by phone, analyze their problems, educate them on store products and determine appropriate products or services
-Coordinate and assign duties to associates
-Assist, train, and present technical or complex information to other associates on how to use in-store computer programs
-Employee of the month for September, 2014
-Only one of two sales associates to regularly achieve a perfect score on a weekly basis
-Ranked number one within the store for signing customers up for our Sports Authority’s The League Program
-Nominated as team sales leader to maximize sales during the holidays in 2011

Intern
United States Secret Service – Tampa, FL
01/2010 to 04/2010

-On average, successfully analyzed and verified 30 counterfeit note reports and counterfeit currency sent from local banks and police departments; processed with 100% accuracy; identified and labeled each counterfeit note, rapid printed, and date stamped counterfeit note reports
-Analyzed police reports by gathering pertinent data and highlighted important information
-Created binders for Special Agents

EDUCATION:

Bachelor of Science in Political Science University of South Florida
Superior Academic Achievement; Major GPA 3.62
Graduation date: August 2011

KEY SKILLS:

-Proficient in Microsoft Office
-Knowledge of domestic and international socioeconomic and political structures
-Strong analytical, critical thinking, and problem solving skills
-Excellent customer service and communication skills

Should I remove the third part for my current job? Is any of that important? I'm pretty knowledgeable when it comes to everything that goes on there, and a lot of times when a manager isn't around, I can answer any questions or help with forms, etc.

Any of my accomplishments necessary to list? Should I have a separate area for my accomplishments? When you look at my current job, it would only be three bullet points when you don't consider the accomplishments.

For my internship, those were my main duties. I did run a lot of errands, like dropping off mail, going to police departments or the attorney's office to drop off or pick up documents. Any of that important enough to list on resume, because I deleted that part.

Thanks
 

nelchaar

Member
Been applying for jobs for 2 months and no luck. I had two interviews but didn't get any job offers out of them. I got laid off my job and my last day is June 30th. For reference, I have a PhD in life sciences, trying to get a job outside academia. Very frustrating.
 
I've been looking for work since March. I'm trying to get into IT. It took awhile but things seem to finally be moving. I had one in person interview last week and today, with a phone interview scheduled for next week and at least an offer for an interview which I'm expecting on Monday. I've been applying for about four jobs a day. I really feel good about today's interview so here's hoping.
 
Well, I deleted some fillers that didn't make very much sense. I tried to keep the ones that gets to the point for the job duties and jobs I'm seeking. Obviously cut n paste screwed the layout:

Should I remove the third part for my current job? Is any of that important? I'm pretty knowledgeable when it comes to everything that goes on there, and a lot of times when a manager isn't around, I can answer any questions or help with forms, etc.

Any of my accomplishments necessary to list? Should I have a separate area for my accomplishments? When you look at my current job, it would only be three bullet points when you don't consider the accomplishments.

For my internship, those were my main duties. I did run a lot of errands, like dropping off mail, going to police departments or the attorney's office to drop off or pick up documents. Any of that important enough to list on resume, because I deleted that part.

Thanks

Alright, you want the hard truth... Here we go.

EXPERIENCE
Sr. Sales Associate
Sports Authority – Clearwater, FL
03/2011-Present

-Communicate effectively with customers by regularly answering their questions in person-to- person situations or by phone, analyze their problems, educate them on store products and determine appropriate products or services
-Coordinate and assign duties to associates
-Assist, train, and present technical or complex information to other associates on how to use in-store computer programs
-Employee of the month for September, 2014
-Only one of two sales associates to regularly achieve a perfect score on a weekly basis
-Ranked number one within the store for signing customers up for our Sports Authority’s The League Program
-Nominated as team sales leader to maximize sales during the holidays in 2011

Intern
United States Secret Service – Tampa, FL
01/2010 to 04/2010

-On average, successfully analyzed and verified 30 counterfeit note reports and counterfeit currency sent from local banks and police departments; processed with 100% accuracy; identified and labeled each counterfeit note, rapid printed, and date stamped counterfeit note reports
-Analyzed police reports by gathering pertinent data and highlighted important information
-Created binders for Special Agents

EDUCATION:

Bachelor of Science in Political Science University of South Florida
Superior Academic Achievement; Major GPA 3.62
Graduation date: August 2011

KEY SKILLS:

-Proficient in Microsoft Office
-Knowledge of domestic and international socioeconomic and political structures
-Strong analytical, critical thinking, and problem solving skills
-Excellent customer service and communication skills

1. You're saying a whole lot here which is effectively communicating with customers. Daily interaction with customers, coworkers, managers, and outside vendors to drive sales, growth, and business iniatives.
2. Note lists of 3+ have a comma before the final "and". Ding, lacks proper grammar.
3. Why is there a space in person-to- person"? Ding, lacks attention to detail.
4. Coordinate makes me think you're an usher at a funeral. Use stronger words. Managed teams daily tasks and scheduled/delegated roles and responsibilities for full shift staff. Not true? I don't care, say it is.
5. Lead store wide system training initiative for all new and existing employees. Improved checkout efficiency time and store satisfaction X%. Not true? I don't care.
6. You were an all star employee for one month? Let's see you've been working here, hmm, 50+ months? That is a terrible ratio. Get rid of this line.
7. Perfect score? Perfect score of what? Number of shits taken in one day? This means literally nothing to me. Remove or articulate.
8. One of two employees? How do I know your store isn't run by two employees? No frame of reference this data point is worthless.
9. Hmm, so you were nominated as a sales lead for one holiday season. You've been through 4. You didn't even win based off it was just a nomination. Is that right? Again pointless. No frame of reference.

10. Intern? Intern of what? Tool this to what you want in a job. Want to work a desk job? Office Intern. Want to work the field? Operations Intern. It's not a lie. It's a descriptive word.
11. I will say again this position is almost to the point of being irrelevant. I know you want to work in military so I get you are basically holding onto your one and only shot, but it almost comes off as sad. Like I've mentioned before, volunteer work in the area you want to be in would be much better and actually relevant as it would be recent.
12. This is also a whole lot of words for what is basically saying you processed paper work. 30 is a number of reports but how do I know reports are not just one page long? This again has no frame of reference from an outsider. You stamped things? Am I suppose to be impressed by that?
13. You highlighted information? Articulate. This comes off as incredibly lazy.
14. You created binders? Binders of... What? Dropping Special Agents next to it does not impress me when I don't know what the binder consists of. Elaborate. Make me get impressed on the content of binder not for who the binder was for.
15. Super academic achievement? What is this? The only academic notes should be Honors awards, Fellowship recipient, and Cum Laude status. And even that comes off worthless sometimes as these fluctuate among schools. Get rid of this note.
16. Remove Major from GPA. Leave the figure but make it say GPA. You're not lying but if they ask be clear about it. Saying Major GPA makes me think you tanked everything else, which is not a good sign considering your degree was Political Science.
17. Proficient in Microsoft Office is not a skill when 85 year olds possess the same skill. Focus on Advanced level Office such as Excel or Acess or do not include at all. It's 2015, it's expected to be proficient in Office.
18. Knowledge of political structure? Well I would hope so.. You went to school to gain knowledge in Poltical Science. Why are you calling this out?
19. Generic critical thinking and problem solving and communication notes is fine, but again is sort of expected in the professional setting. You need real skills. Software skills. Database skills. Analytical tool skills. Start taking classes or workshops, anything to actually differentiate yourself from candidates. Take an intro to federal taxes, or even bookkeeping. This is a huge gap area in your resume.

Your resume did not improve. You basically shifted words around and deleted some fluff. Start thinking critically and taking your job prospects more seriously. At the end of the day you're biggest weakness is the content of your resume. Even without all the crap I listed above nothing about the past five years of your life shows iniatives to make positive change. Yo up haven't developed skill sets, you have not volunteered in areas you want to work in, you haven't taken additional course work or gained certificates. It doesn't even seem like you have had upwards transition with your job. An entry level sales associate for four years is not a good sign and is a red flag for anything but more entry level sales jobs.

I'm not trying to be rude as I understand the frustrations of being in a dead end but damn man the only one who can drive change is you. Stop ignoring people's advice. Stop putting in minimal effort into your search. Go on LinkedIn, reach out to people. Go to networking events. Get out of your comfort zone and make shit happen!
 

numble

Member
2. Note lists of 3+ have a comma before the final "and". Ding, lacks proper grammar.
The Oxford comma is a stylistic choice, there is no right or wrong choice unless a person/organization has a style guide. For instance, articles written by the Associated Press do not use it.

Should you be dinged for not putting the period within the quotation, as is the general American English preference?
 
Just had 2 interviews with the same company this week with the 2nd on Wednesday. They said they would get back to me within a few days with a possible offer. Is Monday too early to reach back to see what's up?
 
The Oxford comma is a stylistic choice, there is no right or wrong choice unless a person/organization has a style guide. For instance, articles written by the Associated Press do not use it.

Should you be dinged for not putting the period within the quotation, as is the general American English preference?

Dinged for what? My post isn't what determines my professional career. His resume does.

The arguments mostly against Oxford comma is due to ambiguity (which there is none in this instance) and for taking creating more space, which if anything he needs.

either way, that's the least of his issues.
 

LaNaranja

Member
Well, I deleted some fillers that didn't make very much sense. I tried to keep the ones that gets to the point for the job duties and jobs I'm seeking. Obviously cut n paste screwed the layout:



Should I remove the third part for my current job? Is any of that important? I'm pretty knowledgeable when it comes to everything that goes on there, and a lot of times when a manager isn't around, I can answer any questions or help with forms, etc.

Any of my accomplishments necessary to list? Should I have a separate area for my accomplishments? When you look at my current job, it would only be three bullet points when you don't consider the accomplishments.

For my internship, those were my main duties. I did run a lot of errands, like dropping off mail, going to police departments or the attorney's office to drop off or pick up documents. Any of that important enough to list on resume, because I deleted that part.

Thanks

I am by no means an expert but I can tell you what I would do.

EDUCATION:

Bachelor of Science in Political Science University of South Florida
Superior Academic Achievement; Major GPA 3.62
Graduation date: August 2011

Remove "superior academic achievement." That should go without saying if your GPA is high. With a 3.6 you should have been on the dean's list a few times no? If so add that. What was your overall GPA? Was it significantly worse? It seems like you are trying to hide it by specifying. If it isn't too bad, I would recommend putting both of them down. Did you have any minor? If so you can also put it down there. As a format thing, I personally like starting with education first. With most of your experience coming from Sports Authority, I think it would be best if you lead with your education.

EXPERIENCE
Sr. Sales Associate
Sports Authority – Clearwater, FL
03/2011-Present

-Communicate effectively with customers by regularly answering their questions in person-to- person situations or by phone, analyze their problems, educate them on store products and determine appropriate products or services
-Coordinate and assign duties to associates
-Assist, train, and present technical or complex information to other associates on how to use in-store computer programs
-Employee of the month for September, 2014
-Only one of two sales associates to regularly achieve a perfect score on a weekly basis
-Ranked number one within the store for signing customers up for our Sports Authority’s The League Program
-Nominated as team sales leader to maximize sales during the holidays in 2011

-If September of 2014 was the only time you ever got employee of the month, I would leave it off. You have been there for a while and one employee of the month award isn't particularly impressive.

-Leave out the "only one of two" part. Start with "Regularly achieve." Also explain what a perfect score is. A perfect score in what? Bowling? Ping-pong? Sales?

-Leave out the last bullet point if you were only the sales team leader in holiday 2011. That was kinda a while ago and it makes me wonder why it only happened that one time.

Intern
United States Secret Service – Tampa, FL
01/2010 to 04/2010

-On average, successfully analyzed and verified 30 counterfeit note reports and counterfeit currency sent from local banks and police departments; processed with 100% accuracy; identified and labeled each counterfeit note, rapid printed, and date stamped counterfeit note reports
-Analyzed police reports by gathering pertinent data and highlighted important information
-Created binders for Special Agents

-Leave out the "on average" part. That makes me wonder how many times you screwed up. You can probably split this whole section into two or three bullet points

-I think "highlighted" should be "highlighting."

-What kind of binders? What was in them?

KEY SKILLS:

-Proficient in Microsoft Office
-Knowledge of domestic and international socioeconomic and political structures
-Strong analytical, critical thinking, and problem solving skills
-Excellent customer service and communication skills

Leave out the word "KEY" and just list it as "SKILLS."
-Listing MS Office is fine.
-If you have knowledge about "domestic and international socioeconomic and political structures" and you think it is important they know, maybe you should add a section that says "Relevant Courses" under education and list classes that you think would be pertinent.
-With the last two bullet points, these skills should go without saying. Give examples of them under each of your experiences. Show don't tell.
 
I've had 4 jobs, including my current one. All of them I got from recommendations by family or friends. I've never successfully gotten a job by applying online.
 
We've only been doing employee of the month for only a year.

but anyway, thanks for the advice. I'll continue on making it better.

As for the binders, I made a lot copies of files (anywhere between 50-100), labeled them with color tabs, hole punched, and set into a binder. Don't know how to write that, unless what I just wrote now is fine?

And for scales, it means sales, cei, on-line orders, reward sign ups, insurance plans, and senior sales productivity. Depending on dollar amount, max is 25 points for each one, and I've achieved that a lot, besides another person that does it, too.

To be honest, out all of the interviews I've had, not one person brought up, "oh! you were employee of the month? You're second best associate at your job? You have the highest % sign ups?"

Makes me think if I should just leave all of that out.

EDIT-Actually, I WAS chosen to be sales leader during the aforementioned holidays.

EDITx2-Seriously, I'm getting so much conflicting information from you people. I see short, simple, bullet points from one person, and another person tells me to articulate more thoroughly. That's why FEDERAL RESUMES require MORE details. For example, the 'analyzed police reports..........', this is what someone who works in HR for the federal government told me to put:

"Analyzed police reports involving counterfeit currency and highlighting the date the incidents took place on and the names of the suspects. Incidents that took place at a business, the employer’s name and address were highlighted."

So you're telling me to put all of that on my private sector resume?

I think I'm just going to set up an appt to see someone that can help create a resume for me.
 

Necrovex

Member
Jason, I told you this before, but I'll say it again. Perhaps consider applying to Peace Corps. I'm about six months in, and it's been a great and enlightening journey. Depending your job sector in PC, you can get some worthwhile experience. In my situation, it'll make my life easier when I apply for health-related jobs and apply for PA schools when I return in 2017.
 
Jason, I told you this before, but I'll say it again. Perhaps consider applying to Peace Corps. I'm about six months in, and it's been a great and enlightening journey. Depending your job sector in PC, you can get some worthwhile experience. In my situation, it'll make my life easier when I apply for health-related jobs and apply for PA schools when I return in 2017.

How old are you? I'm 33, and if I was in my early 20s, I would've definately done it. What country are you in?

The type of jobs I'm looking for are these for those that's interested. Go to qualifications to see what they're looking for:

Immigration Service Officer

https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/PrintPreview/377501800#

Passport Specialist

http://www.simplyhired.com/job/pass...mwe6nc5y?cid=lbhicneaavqglzmjpeggglipxrqafmju
 

Necrovex

Member
How old are you? I'm 33, and if I was in my early 20s, I would've definately done it. What country are you in?

The type of jobs I'm looking for are these for those that's interested. Go to qualifications to see what they're looking for:

Immigration Service Officer

https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/PrintPreview/377501800#

Passport Specialist

http://www.simplyhired.com/job/pass...mwe6nc5y?cid=lbhicneaavqglzmjpeggglipxrqafmju

I'm currently experiencing my quarter life crisis (25). I personally know one PCV who is in his early 30s, he loves it to death. I wouldn't let age be a deterrent. The non-competitive eligibility would help you out too if you wanted those federal government positions.
 

Necrovex

Member
Are you in south Africa?

NC is great, but you're still competing with qualified applicants in the fed job hunt.

what are you going to do after you get out?

Yup! I'm a community health volunteer specialized in HIV/AIDS mitigation.

My plan is to attend graduate school to become a physician assistant. I'll need to complete a few pre-reqs. During that time I plan to get a job involving interaction with patients, so I'll be applying to hospices and work along those lines; I'll also get my EMT certification during the summer I return to the states. Thankfully my 4000 hours I'll accumulate counts for viable work experience (at least according to the top school in the nation for its field). It should also assist me greatly getting a job in the healthcare field during my couple years gap.
 
Update for ya'll.

I graduated in May and am looking for work. Last week, I took a teller position at a local credit union. It's okay pay/benefits, but definitely room for growth (they want me to move into their business development division only 6-12 months after joining as a teller).

However, as I accepted their offer, I was still in the interviewing process with QVC. Well, yesterday, I got the word that I have the 3rd and final interview. I REALLY want this position. It's better pay and the company truly treats its employees amazing.

I am very nervous about that interview. The interview is on Tuesday, but I will be practicing Sunday and Monday. I start the bank teller position on July 6th, but I hope to be able to hear back from QVC before then, and figure out what's up with that.

I trying to manage my excitement/nervousness about the interview. Wish me luck :)
 

Tarsul

Member
Jason, if you're good at selling those insurances for the products, you should really look for sales positions in sectors that have more potential, e.g. IT security companies. Maybe in the end you're going to work more or less a call center job but if you're not stuck in a call center company itself, it has more upwards possibilites as retail.

Also, "employee of the month" doesn't mean much when the reader doesn't know how many employees there are (same goes for "most sign-ups" or whatever).
 

Slo

Member
Alright, you want the hard truth... Here we go.



1. You're saying a whole lot here which is effectively communicating with customers. Daily interaction with customers, coworkers, managers, and outside vendors to drive sales, growth, and business iniatives.
2. Note lists of 3+ have a comma before the final "and". Ding, lacks proper grammar.
3. Why is there a space in person-to- person"? Ding, lacks attention to detail.
4. Coordinate makes me think you're an usher at a funeral. Use stronger words. Managed teams daily tasks and scheduled/delegated roles and responsibilities for full shift staff. Not true? I don't care, say it is.
5. Lead store wide system training initiative for all new and existing employees. Improved checkout efficiency time and store satisfaction X%. Not true? I don't care.
6. You were an all star employee for one month? Let's see you've been working here, hmm, 50+ months? That is a terrible ratio. Get rid of this line.
7. Perfect score? Perfect score of what? Number of shits taken in one day? This means literally nothing to me. Remove or articulate.
8. One of two employees? How do I know your store isn't run by two employees? No frame of reference this data point is worthless.
9. Hmm, so you were nominated as a sales lead for one holiday season. You've been through 4. You didn't even win based off it was just a nomination. Is that right? Again pointless. No frame of reference.

10. Intern? Intern of what? Tool this to what you want in a job. Want to work a desk job? Office Intern. Want to work the field? Operations Intern. It's not a lie. It's a descriptive word.
11. I will say again this position is almost to the point of being irrelevant. I know you want to work in military so I get you are basically holding onto your one and only shot, but it almost comes off as sad. Like I've mentioned before, volunteer work in the area you want to be in would be much better and actually relevant as it would be recent.
12. This is also a whole lot of words for what is basically saying you processed paper work. 30 is a number of reports but how do I know reports are not just one page long? This again has no frame of reference from an outsider. You stamped things? Am I suppose to be impressed by that?
13. You highlighted information? Articulate. This comes off as incredibly lazy.
14. You created binders? Binders of... What? Dropping Special Agents next to it does not impress me when I don't know what the binder consists of. Elaborate. Make me get impressed on the content of binder not for who the binder was for.
15. Super academic achievement? What is this? The only academic notes should be Honors awards, Fellowship recipient, and Cum Laude status. And even that comes off worthless sometimes as these fluctuate among schools. Get rid of this note.
16. Remove Major from GPA. Leave the figure but make it say GPA. You're not lying but if they ask be clear about it. Saying Major GPA makes me think you tanked everything else, which is not a good sign considering your degree was Political Science.
17. Proficient in Microsoft Office is not a skill when 85 year olds possess the same skill. Focus on Advanced level Office such as Excel or Acess or do not include at all. It's 2015, it's expected to be proficient in Office.
18. Knowledge of political structure? Well I would hope so.. You went to school to gain knowledge in Poltical Science. Why are you calling this out?
19. Generic critical thinking and problem solving and communication notes is fine, but again is sort of expected in the professional setting. You need real skills. Software skills. Database skills. Analytical tool skills. Start taking classes or workshops, anything to actually differentiate yourself from candidates. Take an intro to federal taxes, or even bookkeeping. This is a huge gap area in your resume.

Your resume did not improve. You basically shifted words around and deleted some fluff. Start thinking critically and taking your job prospects more seriously. At the end of the day you're biggest weakness is the content of your resume. Even without all the crap I listed above nothing about the past five years of your life shows iniatives to make positive change. Yo up haven't developed skill sets, you have not volunteered in areas you want to work in, you haven't taken additional course work or gained certificates. It doesn't even seem like you have had upwards transition with your job. An entry level sales associate for four years is not a good sign and is a red flag for anything but more entry level sales jobs.

I'm not trying to be rude as I understand the frustrations of being in a dead end but damn man the only one who can drive change is you. Stop ignoring people's advice. Stop putting in minimal effort into your search. Go on LinkedIn, reach out to people. Go to networking events. Get out of your comfort zone and make shit happen!

You just wasted A LOT of time.
 

Slo

Member
Update for ya'll.

I graduated in May and am looking for work. Last week, I took a teller position at a local credit union. It's okay pay/benefits, but definitely room for growth (they want me to move into their business development division only 6-12 months after joining as a teller).

However, as I accepted their offer, I was still in the interviewing process with QVC. Well, yesterday, I got the word that I have the 3rd and final interview. I REALLY want this position. It's better pay and the company truly treats its employees amazing.

I am very nervous about that interview. The interview is on Tuesday, but I will be practicing Sunday and Monday. I start the bank teller position on July 6th, but I hope to be able to hear back from QVC before then, and figure out what's up with that.

I trying to manage my excitement/nervousness about the interview. Wish me luck :)

Awesome dude. Good luck on the QVC thing. I think you're handling it right, show up for work on July 6th if you haven't been offered the QVC job.
 
How old are you? I'm 33, and if I was in my early 20s, I would've definately done it. What country are you in?

The type of jobs I'm looking for are these for those that's interested. Go to qualifications to see what they're looking for:

Immigration Service Officer

https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/PrintPreview/377501800#

Passport Specialist

http://www.simplyhired.com/job/pass...mwe6nc5y?cid=lbhicneaavqglzmjpeggglipxrqafmju

Peace Corps is a good idea, as someone mentioned. So's enlisting in the military for a 4-year stint. (I realize you're older; it'd be harder for you and it'd be something of a culture shock.) The sort of jobs you're looking at would be more obtainable with that sweet 5-point veteran's preference. I realize this pushes your timeline back -- you're 33 now, and it's somewhat inconceivable to wait any longer -- but if that's what you truly want, then I can tell you that federal jobs are damned hard to secure.

(I spent 6 years in the military. I have 2 bachelor's degrees, a law degree, 2 master's degrees, and I'm working on a third. And I'm waiting to hear back -- if I even get a callback for an interview.)

You should take a drastic step. Working at Sports Authority isn't getting you where you want to go, and it never will.
 
Peace Corps is a good idea, as someone mentioned. So's enlisting in the military for a 4-year stint. (I realize you're older; it'd be harder for you and it'd be something of a culture shock.) The sort of jobs you're looking at would be more obtainable with that sweet 5-point veteran's preference. I realize this pushes your timeline back -- you're 33 now, and it's somewhat inconceivable to wait any longer -- but if that's what you truly want, then I can tell you that federal jobs are damned hard to secure.

(I spent 6 years in the military. I have 2 bachelor's degrees, a law degree, 2 master's degrees, and I'm working on a third. And I'm waiting to hear back -- if I even get a callback for an interview.)

You should take a drastic step. Working at Sports Authority isn't getting you where you want to go, and it never will.

I've read contrary to popular belief, vets aren't getting all the fed jobs. I should've joined the military when I had the chance back in 2004, but shit was hitting the fan hard in Iraq, and chances were high that id go over there.

I'm also thinking about pharmacy school. They make a lot of money.
 
I'm also thinking about pharmacy school. They make a lot of money.
How many science classes did you take during your undergraduate studies? With something like pharmacy school, I'd imagine there would be a lot of prerequisites for most programs. It would vary, but I'd bet on things like at least 2 semesters of biology, chemistry, organic chemistry, and physics (with lab for each) being common. Throw in physiology and biochemistry, too.
 
I've read contrary to popular belief, vets aren't getting all the fed jobs. I should've joined the military when I had the chance back in 2004, but shit was hitting the fan hard in Iraq, and chances were high that id go over there.

I'm also thinking about pharmacy school. They make a lot of money.

Chances are you wouldn't have been sent to Iraq. It would depend on what service you enlisted and your MOS/NEC at the time.

There were plenty of people that deployed with me that never saw combat due to their NEC not being combat-related.

As for pharmacy school, you have to know your science and math pretty well in order to be competitive. You would need to take Organic I & II, Calc 1, Chem I & II, Physics I & II, and have a competitive PCAT score as well.

It's true that careers in the medical field or engineering make pretty good money, but the reason why most people change majors in my experience is not because they weren't capable. It's that they didn't feel it was worth their time to put in so much work in order to succeed in a STEM or medical major compared to other majors.

They realize they didn't want to make a lot of money as they previously thought, and are quick to change majors and being content making $35-40k for the rest of their lives.
 

vern

Member
I know it's been said in here before, but I'll reiterate. If you are having difficulty finding work in the Usa look overseas instead. I had a good job in America but was bored, applied for positions in various countries and was offered jobs relatively quickly. I've been abroad three years now and have no intention of going home for good any time soon. The world is full of opportunities, especially if you've got no kids! If you've got a gf holding you back, let's just say there are lots of girls in other countries as well. Just go for it.
 
Received a reply about the job I interviewed for on Tuesday. He said that I had a "perfect" interview and would fit in nicely with the job but the region I wanted to go in to can't afford another body (after he told me they were looking for someone).

Argh.. such a kick to the groin being told this. I emailed him back asking if there was a different area that I would be a fit for since he obviously thinks I'd be good for them (didn't word it like that but that's the jist of it).

I hate being told that I'd be good for the job but they can't afford me.. wtf.
 

Necrovex

Member
If you want to go into the medical field and go to an advanced school, PA isn't a bad field. The pre-reqs are a lot less taxing than pharmacy and medical schools. No organic chemistry, no physics, and no calculus for starter. The kicker is needing around at least 1000 hours of patient-care experience. If you want to get out of your rut, it may not hurt trying to get accredited in something like EMT, and work a few years while completing your pre-reqs. PA also makes a pretty penny. But it sounds you need to make a sharp turn to get it of your rut. Military wouldn't be a bad option to assist you in getting work experience. Having a degree should give you some wiggle room of getting a position you want to.
 

Chibits12

Banned
Are there any accounting majors that transitioned from being an accountant to becoming a financial analyst? How is it like? Finance majors and financial analysts can give their opinions too. I have been doing an entry level tax accounting job for over a year but I see a financial analyst position that just opened up within the company I work for. I have bachelor degrees in economics and accounting (graduated last year) and I am prepping for the CPA exam. I dont mind accounting but doing forecasts for upper management seem interesting.
 
Are there any accounting majors that transitioned from being an accountant to becoming a financial analyst? How is it like? Finance majors and financial analysts can give their opinions too. I have been doing an entry level tax accounting job for over a year but I see a financial analyst position that just opened up within the company I work for. I have bachelor degrees in economics and accounting (graduated last year) and I am prepping for the CPA exam. I dont mind accounting but doing forecasts for upper management seem interesting.

What type of entry level tax are you in? Private or public? ASC 740-10 stuff or more individual? Planning? The econ degree will help, but it also depends on what kind of "analyst" you want to be. That title has so many meanings, from the very bottom of the spectrum to the very top. Also depends what type of city/market you're in. I've had a lot of colleagues over the years hop between two and it's always easier to go from accounting to finance than reverse.
 
I'm deciding between a double major, or a major and a minor. If I do the Major and Minor, then I could be done by the end of next summer. If I do a double major, then I'd be done in 2 years, instead of a year and a summer. There'd also be a practicum for a double major.

I'm currently working a summer job at a visitor information center, so it makes me feels a bit better about grading because I'll at least have work experience besides volunteering(first paid job).
 

Slo

Member
I'm deciding between a double major, or a major and a minor. If I do the Major and Minor, then I could be done by the end of next summer. If I do a double major, then I'd be done in 2 years, instead of a year and a summer. There'd also be a practicum for a double major.

I'm currently working a summer job at a visitor information center, so it makes me feels a bit better about grading because I'll at least have work experience besides volunteering(first paid job).

What would they be?
 

BobLoblaw

Banned
I'm curious, how long did it take you guys to find a job out of college?

Almost 2 months for me so far and only a few interviews and no offers.
I graduated a long time ago (this decade). It took me three months to find a full time job, but I had two part time gigs when I graduated. Your degree field, who you know, and/or a little bit of luck all play a part in your first full time job.
 

Soph

Member
Well, after three weeks of interviews with six different managers on three seperate locations for a job which would be the star on my curriculum vitae, one of the managers apparently didn't like me at all.. Just got a call that I didn't get the job, even though most of them scumbags assured me it was a cat in the bag

SERIOUSLY... ONE?? How about I just don't work for that guy but for the other five.. Geez,
 

Billy Lee

Member
I've been trying to get a programming job for a year now with no luck. I have 9 years of industry experience. I'm seriously considering cutting my salary expectations in half and applying for junior roles. Maybe even just settling for an admin role.
 
I graduated a long time ago (this decade). It took me three months to find a full time job, but I had two part time gigs when I graduated. Your degree field, who you know, and/or a little bit of luck all play a part in your first full time job.
Yeah I have a part time job as well that will at least tide me over. Just got my first rejection and that sucks, but just have to keep at it. I guess Sports Management degrees aren't exactly in high demand haha.
 
Just wondering what people's opinion of this is. So last September I had chosen to work for a company over another one who had offered me a third interview. Since then I had been in contact with that company following up on open positions (I had been following up every three months, so really only two follow ups and last time was in April). Recently I had been laid off last Friday due to economic reasons, and now although it's only been two days, I'm starting to get the unemployment woes.

So just wondering, should I contact that recruiter again? If I do should I explain my situation as to how I was laid off and mention that I am back in the job search market?
 
I've been trying to get a programming job for a year now with no luck. I have 9 years of industry experience. I'm seriously considering cutting my salary expectations in half and applying for junior roles. Maybe even just settling for an admin role.

Do you know anything about making Android/iOS apps? I get jobs offers for that all the time but they are all on west coast while I'm stuck over here in south Jersey for the next year. I cannot find any IT work out here for shit. I mean I know there is some stuff out here but not like on the west coast and when you say in your resume you are self employed since 2010 I don't think people believe that. It also seems the IT work is harder to get over here. Like I literally applied for the same role in the same company here and there was an opening in Portland, OR which I applied to as well (I was supposed to move to west coast in a month but that changed). I was not selected for the one here but the lady from Portland actually called me for an interview. I really don't like the area I'm stuck in. Everything is basically healthcare or retail jobs it seems.
 

Pastry

Banned
Anyone have any experience being contacted by recruiters on LinkedIn?

The recruiter of a large financial company sent me a message on LinkedIn, I'm sure I was one of many, and I'll definitely follow up just to see but I was wondering if anyone had any advice for handling this.
 
Anyone have any experience being contacted by recruiters on LinkedIn?

The recruiter of a large financial company sent me a message on LinkedIn, I'm sure I was one of many, and I'll definitely follow up just to see but I was wondering if anyone had any advice for handling this.

Every single day. Happens all the time.
 
Anyone have any experience being contacted by recruiters on LinkedIn?

The recruiter of a large financial company sent me a message on LinkedIn, I'm sure I was one of many, and I'll definitely follow up just to see but I was wondering if anyone had any advice for handling this.

I don't use linkedin personally but get those all the time from monster, indeed, careerbuilder etc
 

vypek

Member
I've been trying to get a programming job for a year now with no luck. I have 9 years of industry experience. I'm seriously considering cutting my salary expectations in half and applying for junior roles. Maybe even just settling for an admin role.

Its somewhat worrisome to read that someone with your experience is having trouble getting a position. I'm a very recent graduate and have had no luck finding many software development jobs. The best one that I had heard about was one I lost out on to a friend of mine I went to school with. Are you asking for a really high salary? A cut in half seems like it would be excessive. Maybe it is your area? I'm honestly considering moving away form where I am to find a job in the industry.
 

BreakyBoy

o_O @_@ O_o
I've been trying to get a programming job for a year now with no luck. I have 9 years of industry experience. I'm seriously considering cutting my salary expectations in half and applying for junior roles. Maybe even just settling for an admin role.

In what geographical area? Can you be a little more specific about your industry experience? If you're comfortable with sharing, what are your salary range expectations?

I've been passively job hunting in the software development field for about two years now for something better all over the US. No promises, but I might be able to help some, given that information. I'm sure there would be others that might be able to offer some good advice too.
 

Coolluck

Member
In what geographical area? Can you be a little more specific about your industry experience? If you're comfortable with sharing, what are your salary range expectations?

I've been passively job hunting in the software development field for about two years now for something better all over the US. No promises, but I might be able to help some, given that information. I'm sure there would be others that might be able to offer some good advice too.

Yeah, I know my company is looking for programmers up the wazoo both senior and junior roles. It's the salaries that I expect are the sticking points holding things up.
 

EloquentM

aka Mannny
Guys guys I think I may have something. This waiting is giving me anxiety though. So basically on Thursday I got a call saying they were moving forward and calling my references however none of them could be reached. So, I gave the recruiter everyone's email and spammed my coworker and former manager telling them to fill out the reference paperwork and send it back. Final reference sheet from my prior manager should've been sent yesterday. I'm just anxious cause I haven't heard back from the recruiter. I keep feeling like they chose someone else instead of me. Ugh letting my fears get to me because I've been unemployed for a year.
 
Anyone have any experience being contacted by recruiters on LinkedIn?

Yes, this happens many times a day if your profile has the right keywords. It's never worth following up and frankly it's a sign of a terrible company or terrible recruiter.

For bonus laffs try and figure out who their ultimate boss is (e.g. head of the business unit they're recruiting for) and message them asking why they're using recruiters who are so terrible they're just mailspamming linkedin.
 
Yes, this happens many times a day if your profile has the right keywords. It's never worth following up and frankly it's a sign of a terrible company or terrible recruiter.

For bonus laffs try and figure out who their ultimate boss is (e.g. head of the business unit they're recruiting for) and message them asking why they're using recruiters who are so terrible they're just mailspamming linkedin.

This is highly subjective and maybe specific to your industry. In my industry, public accounting, it's extremely normal and professional. Our own internal firm recruiters use it to search for people as well as have candidates communicate with them. What industry are you in?
 
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