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[led4lyfe]

rey dressing up as black swan.

 

[Net_Wrecker]

No. People will use lamps regardless of WWE's rating. It could be fucking porn and people will still find the cheapest route.

Even still, look at UFC's numbers. Quality + marketing to the right audience still gets great PPV buy rates. The problem is marketing to a PG audience and expecting them to pay $65 for HD PPV's.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Well back when SummerSlam was 19.99 was also nice too. Man It's nuts how WM is now $54.99! I tend to think that if the prices were lower they would get a lot more casuals, but I'm not sure if the larger buyrate would make up the money lost to a lower cost.

Then again TNA shows that cheap doesn't equal good buyrates lol

The price doesn't matter. Interest in the product does. $54.99 split between 5 people is cheap. $54.99 paid by just one person because you can't find anyone else that gives a shit is bad.

 

[spindashing]

TV-14 is not auto better quality. Wrestling was still bad before PG came in. People tuned away in droved before PG came in. Thre worst wrestling even did was probably when TV-14 was still around. Katie Vick says hi

Mae Young giving birth to a hand says hi.

Heidenreich raping Michael Cole also says hi.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

I've watched and paid for every WWE PPV since at least 2003.

All this lamp talk makes me sad when I think about their declining PPV buy rates. Why not just buy it on WWE.com? Isn't it cheaper there?

someone posted an article about it earlier, but in the past WWE and PPV still had to deal with piracy in the form of black boxes (which, in all honesty, were probably more potentially damaging to revenue than online streaming is now) and still pulled in numbers. It's the quality and ceiling that going "PG" gives that is affecting buyrates more than streams.

 

[Plywood]

Rey Mysterio Costume Guessing List:

Plywood, Kccitystar, Penguin - Tron
Keyser Soze - Captain America
Spindashing, MattyH - Green Lantern
Ninja Scooter - Dusty Rhodes Yellow Polka Dot Outfit
Jeff Albertson - Buzz Lightyear
dream - Mistico (Believe.)
ghostmind - Reflective/Mirror outfit
Azuran - Thor
Lunchbox - Orton's 3rd Wife (lol)
Biggest-Geek-Ever - Woody
led4lyfe - Black Swan

 

[Dinokill]

If the WWE wasnt in the toilet right know I'll be buying WM at the regular price. Hell, most people I know quit watching WWE altogether!.

I think the last great Wrestlemania was 24(I was there at the citrus bawl) which was the last WM until the PG virus plagued WWE. Go figure.

 

[x Power Pad Death Stomp x]

Why is that you can be banned from GAF for admitting to downloading things, but begging for illegal streams of PPV events is ok?

I think Mysterio comes out dressed as the KMART blue light.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Why is that you can be banned from GAF for admitting to downloading things, but begging for illegal streams of PPV events is ok?

I think Mysterio comes out dressed as the KMART blue light.

No one looks in these threads.

 

[Penguin]

Rey Mysterio Costume Guessing List:

Plywood, Kccitystar - Tron
Keyser Soze - Captain America
Spindashing, MattyH - Green Lantern
Ninja Scooter - Dusty Rhodes Yellow Polka Dot Outfit
Jeff Albertson - Buzz Lightyear
dream - Mistico (Believe.)
ghostmind - Reflective/Mirror outfit
Azuran - Thor
Lunchbox - Orton's 3rd Wife (lol)
Biggest-Geek-Ever - Woody
led4lyfe - Black Swan

You don't have me down for Tron yet.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Evillore and his mod stable are poopy

 

[sillentassasin]

Can i have the link to the superlamp? Thanks guys

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Can i have the link to the superlamp? Thanks guys

second'd

 

[Jeff Albertson]

I hate all this PG moaning bull, oh yeah because blood makes TNA awesome.

Also would you download a car?

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Has WWE even been PG the last bunch of weeks.

 

[Spiderjericho]

someone posted an article about it earlier, but in the past WWE and PPV still had to deal with piracy in the form of black boxes (which, in all honesty, were probably more potentially damaging to revenue than online streaming is now) and still pulled in numbers. It's the quality and ceiling that going "PG" gives that is affecting buyrates more than streams.

Yeah, I remember the dreaded black box. I had a friend who had one. We watched the late 90s ppvs using it.

And when I stayed at my aunt's house, they had it too.

Piracy has been around since forever. Satellite cable had to worry about "cards."

It's true, if the product is compelling, then the people are going to care about committing money to watching it.

WWE's product isn't as good plus it has keen competition in pro sports, UFC, etc.

 

[El Pescado]

Miz vs Cena - 5 points
Edge vs Del Rio - 5 points
Undertaker vs HHH - 5 points
Cole vs Lawler - 4 points
CM Punk vs Orton - 4 points
Rhodes vs Mysterio - 4 points
Sheamus vs Bryan - 3 points
Snooki's team vs LayCool - 3 points
Babyfaces vs Corre - 3 points

Rey will dress as Super Rey; Guardian of the Glass Ceiling.

Miz vs Cena will be on last and it will last 35 minutes with entrances and post match chicanery.

 

[Joba62x]

1 vote for tron Mysterio


Bodogs taker odds are down to -900 from -1400, you guys could do that to off set the PPV cost.

They changed the max bet to 225, it used to be 325, it still only pays $25 at max bet.

 

[ZeroRay]

80's WWF, NWA and other territories were all PG back then and they still did monster ratings and draws.

 

[dream]

It was more socially acceptable to watch pro wrestling back then. These days, only kids and lonely ponyfuckers watch it.

I don't understand the Undertaker line move. The only way the line moves from -1400 to -900 is if a ton of money comes in on HHH....oh god it's time to play the game isn't it.

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

It was more socially acceptable to watch pro wrestling back then. These days, only kids and lonely ponyfuckers watch it.

I don't understand the Undertaker line move. The only way the line moves from -1400 to -900 is if a ton of money comes in on HHH....oh god

Sup.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

80's WWF, NWA and other territories were all PG back then and they still did monster ratings and draws.

at Hulk Hogan's peak in the 80s wrestling was everywhere. Hogan was on the cover of Sports Illustrated for crying out loud, you had WWF on primetime with Saturday Night's Main Event on NBC. It was really more of a fad for mainstream people back then.

 

[ZeroRay]

It was more socially acceptable to watch pro wrestling back then. These days, only kids and lonely ponyfuckers watch it.

I don't understand the Undertaker line move. The only way the line moves from -1400 to -900 is if a ton of money comes in on HHH....oh god

Triple H betting on himself confirmed.

at Hulk Hogan's peak in the 80s wrestling was everywhere. Hogan was on the cover of Sports Illustrated for crying out loud, you had WWF on primetime with Saturday Night's Main Event on NBC. It was really more of a fad for mainstream people back then.

You could say the same thing in the late 90's.

All wrestling needs is something to bring it to the forefront. Otherwise, it's gonna be like this for a while since WWE's business plan, while conservative is still consistent.

 

[The Frankman]

It was more socially acceptable to watch pro wrestling back then. These days, only kids and lonely ponyfuckers watch it.

I don't understand the Undertaker line move. The only way the line moves from -1400 to -900 is if a ton of money comes in on HHH....oh god

Triple HHH short interview about his matych vs. The Undertaker

 

[Net_Wrecker]

80's WWF, NWA and other territories were all PG back then and they still did monster ratings and draws.

But that was when ADULTS were captivated by the magic of wrestling. That crap doesn't fly anymore. Then it blew up in 96-2001 due to the "realness" of the Attitude Era that managed to pull adult viewers back in, and we had another boom.

Now wrestling is in a valley again, and the UFC has eaten into that adult audience that used to roll with wrestling, and the PG crowd just doesn't have the income to purchase weak PPV after weak PPV.

 

[Lkr]

I wonder if Vince bets

 

[GaimeGuy]

Rey Mysterio Costume Guessing List:

Plywood, Kccitystar - Tron
Keyser Soze - Captain America
Spindashing, MattyH - Green Lantern
Ninja Scooter - Dusty Rhodes Yellow Polka Dot Outfit
Jeff Albertson - Buzz Lightyear
dream - Mistico (Believe.)
ghostmind - Reflective/Mirror outfit
Azuran - Thor
Lunchbox - Orton's 3rd Wife (lol)
Biggest-Geek-Ever - Woody
led4lyfe - Black Swan

You missed me

 

[Spiderjericho]

It was more socially acceptable to watch pro wrestling back then. These days, only kids and male soap opera fans watch it.

fixed

Others males would rather watch UFC, pro sports or something else, especially without captivating stars/programming (Attitude era had Stone Cold/Rock plus a smattering of pretty decent in ring performers or promos).

edit: Netwrecker hit on the head.

 

[antonz]

80's WWF, NWA and other territories were all PG back then and they still did monster ratings and draws.

Yep a big issue is the fact in all the company Cena is the only guy who has the 80s style super popularity. Other guys get cheered on the basis they arent Cena but the reality is Cena is practically the only guy who really fits the style.

The true decline is directly linked to the pulling away from wrestling and becoming sports entertainment

 

[dream]

Honestly, I don't think any of us in EntertainmentGAF actually enjoys watching anymore. I think we just do it out of habit and boredom.

 

[Lkr]

You missed me

And I

 

[StealthGoblin]

I also think the standard of the wrestling has dropped. Its also less edgy. Back in the day I'd be on the edge of my seat because the competition forced both big promotions to mix things up.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Has WWE even been PG the last bunch of weeks.

I don't understand PG anyway. Chuck is a PG show, yet half clothed women seem to be a part of every episode, as do guns, threats of death, and more.

The likes of Fringe is obviously TV-14, as they throw in quite a few graphics images

WWEs PG is usually very safe, and he few mentions of "ass" are hardly extreme

 

[Lkr]

Honestly, I don't think any of us in EntertainmentGAF actually enjoys watching anymore. I think we just do it out of habit and boredom.

I like to see if it can get worse, and from week to week, I am never disappointed

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

I don't understand PG anyway. Chuck is a PG show, yet half clothed women seem to be a part of every episode, as do guns, threats of death, and more.

The likes of Fringe is obviously TV-14, as they throw in quite a few graphics images

WWEs PG is usually very safe, and he few mentions of "ass" are hardly extreme

half naked beetches are necessary for entertainment value. It turns the diva matches from definite bathroom breaks to semi-watchable.

 

[The Frankman]

In honor of Triple H burying The Streak, I will be posting Trips' best burials and de-pushes for the next 2 hours...


Triple H gets help from London and Kendrick

 

[Net_Wrecker]

Honestly, I don't think any of us in EntertainmentGAF actually enjoys watching anymore. I think we just do it out of habit and boredom.

I still highly enjoy watching WRESTLING, it's the "Entertainment" part of it that craps it up most of the time. All the lights and huge stages in the world won't make your product more entertaining than a ROH show in a small arena and a crowd full of rabid fans.

 

[Spiderjericho]

The true decline is directly linked to the pulling away from wrestling and becoming sports entertainment

Or maybe it's the fact the company hasn't developed other stars and instead we have the legion of McIntyre, Dibiase, Kozlov, etc. It doesn't help that most of them cannot really cut a promo or have good in-ring ability or possess ring psychology.

So for kids, they all gravitate to Cena. The program's quality is poor when viewed by an adult, and there aren't that many personalities to draw adults in today, except for the fringe/devoted followers.

Adults are not interested in that junk, they prefer GSP, Brock, Anderson Silva, Jon Jones, Chuck Lidell, Randy Couture, etc.

 

[jobber]

plywood I never had a problem paying with my CC. not sure whats up.

well at least you have a chance...Comcast won't let me buy it til it starts!

 

[Plywood]

You don't have me down for Tron yet.

Apologies, going back and adding you all now.

Rey Mysterio Costume Guessing List:

Plywood, Kccitystar, Penguin - Tron
Keyser Soze - Captain America
Keyser Soze - Hitler
Spindashing, MattyH - Green Lantern
Ninja Scooter - Dusty Rhodes Yellow Polka Dot Outfit
Jeff Albertson - Buzz Lightyear
dream - Mistico (Believe.)
ghostmind - Reflective/Mirror outfit
Azuran - Thor
Lunchbox - Orton's 3rd Wife (lol)
Biggest-Geek-Ever - Woody
led4lyfe - Black Swan
GaimeGuy - Bret/Owen Hart Theme
lkr - John Cena/rainbow loops
Reneledarker - Cody Rhodes Mask
jobber - Orton's Bus

 

[Reneledarker]

Rey Mysterio Costume Guessing List:

Plywood, Kccitystar - Tron
Keyser Soze - Captain America
Spindashing, MattyH - Green Lantern
Ninja Scooter - Dusty Rhodes Yellow Polka Dot Outfit
Jeff Albertson - Buzz Lightyear
dream - Mistico (Believe.)
ghostmind - Reflective/Mirror outfit
Azuran - Thor
Lunchbox - Orton's 3rd Wife (lol)
Biggest-Geek-Ever - Woody
led4lyfe - Black Swan

Add me whit Mysterio coming whit the same face mask as Cody.

 

[sillentassasin]

80's WWF, NWA and other territories were all PG back then and they still did monster ratings and draws.

Preach!

 

[Lkr]

Is this actually a career on the line match for HHH? They really didn't make that clear

 

[Net_Wrecker]

Is this actually a career on the line match for HHH? They really didn't make that clear

50 Cent will interfere to help HHH get the win...




...or die tryin'.

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

Is this actually a career on the line match for HHH? They really didn't make that clear

He's going to DIE TRYING. Life over = career over.

 

[Keyser Soze]

half naked beetches are necessary for entertainment value. It turns the diva matches from definite bathroom breaks to semi-watchable.

Why cant WWE do it on a PG show though, when the likes of Chuck have Sarah/Yvonne and other girls in Bikinis/Bras every now and then. WWE takes PG to strict in some places, and lapses in others.

 

[jobber]

Apologies, going back and adding you all now.

Rey Mysterio Costume Guessing List:

Plywood, Kccitystar, Penguin - Tron
Keyser Soze - Captain America
Spindashing, MattyH - Green Lantern
Ninja Scooter - Dusty Rhodes Yellow Polka Dot Outfit
Jeff Albertson - Buzz Lightyear
dream - Mistico (Believe.)
ghostmind - Reflective/Mirror outfit
Azuran - Thor
Lunchbox - Orton's 3rd Wife (lol)
Biggest-Geek-Ever - Woody
led4lyfe - Black Swan
GaimeGuy - Bret/Owen Hart Theme

you forgot my pick as Orton's Bus

 

[sf2fanatic]

50 Cent will interfere to help HHH get the win...




...or die tryin'.

rofl...


Cena gonna come out with peeps in purple and orange shirts to piss off the Rock

 

[Lunchbox]

before the rumble everyone was excited, posting airport pictures, being all like "whas gone happen, whas gone happen !!" and now before mania everyones depressed, busy with lamps, arguing about pg

i miss the rumble. easily the best ppv they have

 

[Plywood]

Alright, lemme know if I missed anything/anyone.

Rey Mysterio Costume Guessing List:

Plywood, Kccitystar, Penguin - Tron
Keyser Soze - Captain America
Keyser Soze - Hitler
Spindashing, MattyH - Green Lantern
Ninja Scooter - Dusty Rhodes Yellow Polka Dot Outfit
Jeff Albertson - Buzz Lightyear
dream - Mistico (Believe.)
ghostmind - Reflective/Mirror outfit
Azuran - Thor
Lunchbox - Orton's 3rd Wife (lol)
Biggest-Geek-Ever - Woody
led4lyfe - Black Swan
GaimeGuy - Bret/Owen Hart Theme
lkr - John Cena/rainbow loops
Reneledarker - Cody Rhodes Mask
jobber - Orton's Bus
Ronabo - Doink the Clown