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Arrested Development |OT| Season 4 - May 26 - Netflix Unmakes A Huge Mistake
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Netflix has nothing to do creating the show. If the writing feels off, it's because there was a period of several years where Hurwitz was writing things other than AD.
I've watched through AD more times than I can count and I can't even muster on the will to watch episode 6 now. Yep...
BrokenEchelon
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The Gob episode was magnificent.
George Michael was writing Dad.
Duh. Thank you
Maninthemirror
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Based on the hype. this season delivered. simple as that. If you were overhyped, it might disappoint you. If you were not, it will be overwhelmingly good for you, if you were hyped, it will be great for you
Again, it's not Netflix's fault.
They gave money to Hurwitz, and this is what he and his team put together.
Look up the writing/directing team. It's all people who worked on the original seasons, with the exception of one writer who worked on Up All Night and Modern Family.
It's a disappointment.
SteveWinwood
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I'm making fun of ungrateful fools who expect the second coming of christ.
aparisi2274
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ummm, because George Michael was writing Dad!
I didn't expect the second coming of Christ, but I didn't expect the drop in quality to be this big, either.
It's getting some laughs out of me, but as with most late TV show revivals, I'm finding myself wishing they'd left a good thing alone.
The movie had better be worth it.
Uh...it did not deliver in the least. It's just not funny at all.
DevelopmentArrested
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Snowden's Secret
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George Michael started to write "Dad" but stopped and wrote "Michael" instead, symbolizing a couple things, namely GM's growing up and distance from his father. Also a sight gag: he stopped writing Dad so Michael wouldn't know he wrote it, but he would have figured it out anyway because of the Da and the unanimous vote
Man, writing it all out like that gives you a great appreciation for how multilayered this all is.
aparisi2274
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I'm up to ep 11, and I'm enjoying the hell out of it!! Are there some misses? Sure.
Overall it's been pretty good.
Mikey Jr.
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Just watch episode 1.
I was generally confused. They were doing a lot of time skipping and it was kinda hard for me to keep track. Also, I had to put on subtitles because it was hard for me to understand anything sometimes.
Generally though, epi 1 wasn't great. Didn't really laugh.
I was generally confused. They were doing a lot of time skipping and it was kinda hard for me to keep track. Also, I had to put on subtitles because it was hard for me to understand anything sometimes.
Generally though, epi 1 wasn't great. Didn't really laugh.
SlowRevolution
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This makes Work It look like a masterpiece. Literally unwatchable.
Hasphat'sAnts
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NINJA PLEASE!
Maybe it shouldn't.
The sad part is is that it doesn't really seem like it's Netflix's fault. Netflix put everything in place for a great season to happen. Herwitz and the show's writers are just way off the mark.
Maninthemirror
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As Stated many here seem to be overhyped. it wouldnt deliver in the least for them.
DevelopmentArrested
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I wouldn't say everything. The budget seems pretty low.
Oh please. There's been two episodes out of ten so far that have been as good as any random old episode of AD. That's not having high expectations.
I wasn't expecting Pier Pressure again, I just wanted SOME laughs. There are a few episodes that are completely void of that.
This season had enormously high expectations from people. It's not surprising that there are some disappointed with it.
I'm on ep. 7 now, and I'm really enjoying it. I wasn't expecting the world or some revelation -- it's all very well written and way better than the average show.
I'm on ep. 7 now, and I'm really enjoying it. I wasn't expecting the world or some revelation -- it's all very well written and way better than the average show.
Ape Gone Insane
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It's definitely going to be remembered as the weakest season, I feel. I think the strongest storyline is probably Gob but I'm only up to episode 11.
SteveWinwood
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We all know this show requires multiple viewings. I didn't find season 1 all that super amazing the first time I saw it. You can already see where they're throwing in lots of jokes in future episodes for it to come back and you to fully "get it" when you watch it again. I'm on the third episode, there is a joke about a plane seat. It wasn't funny. But you already know that's going to be referenced in a future episode. You'll watch it again and it will be better.
But no go ahead and judge it by watching the first episode one time. Go ahead.
But no go ahead and judge it by watching the first episode one time. Go ahead.
BrokenEchelon
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I only watched the original seasons a few years ago, and I found it mostly "decent" with a few great moments. It was the kind of show that I didn't laugh out loud at much, but still found funny from time to time. Season four seems a bit worse than the first three, but it still feels pretty much like the same humor. I often found that AD fans I spoke to about it praised it to the high heavens and I think it probably contributes to the disappointment many now feel.
That's pretty much how I feel about Arrested Development in general.
That's pretty much how I feel about Arrested Development in general.
DirtyManos
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About halfway in. Still withholding final judgment until I see it all together (maybe twice).
It's a mixed bag. Some of it is really great, some is okay, and some is just basically unfunny.
Initially I thought it was the structure of the season that was making it this way; however, when you think about how segmented it is by characters, then I really believe is was the inability to film together due to the actors that caused the inconsistency.
It's a mixed bag. Some of it is really great, some is okay, and some is just basically unfunny.
Initially I thought it was the structure of the season that was making it this way; however, when you think about how segmented it is by characters, then I really believe is was the inability to film together due to the actors that caused the inconsistency.
This is what I'm thinking, too.
I'm just gonna watch like 2 episodes per day and I won't expect it to be anything like the first three seasons.
I'm just happy I have 14 episodes of AD to watch. Because there isn't any other good stuff on tv right now.
I came into this expecting that the writers could have lost it in the past eight years. A few minutes before it went up, I sent a text to an AD obsessed friend: "WHAT IF IT SUCKS?"
I lowered my expectations, and this thing is still a disappointment. There's a far lower hit ratio to the jokes than season 3, which is agreed upon by nearly everyone to be the worst of the original seasons. I was hoping they could at least put out something as good as any given season of Parks and Recreation, but nope.
Points for ambition, but the execution is really off.
Fantastical
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As someone stated, I think the longer episodes ended up hurting them. There are scenes that go on way too long.
Also to the people telling people their negative impressions don't count because they "overhyped" the show... COME ON! I'm starting to enjoy it now, but it's not nearly as funny as seasons 1-3.
Also to the people telling people their negative impressions don't count because they "overhyped" the show... COME ON! I'm starting to enjoy it now, but it's not nearly as funny as seasons 1-3.
crimzonflame
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GOB is what the earlier episodes was missing.
I agree. This season has met my expectations completely. I'm absolutely loving it!
I believe that fans were going to overhype it in their minds because of the excellent quality of the past three seasons. The show has gained such a rabid, fervent fanbase in the last 7 years, and the constant rumors of the show coming back have only stoked the fire. The show was destined to be a letdown to some regardless of the material. You could see Mitch Hurwitz attempting to temper expectations in the past couple weeks in the media because the show is inherently different than it was when it was on cable.
I tried to go into it with an open mind and found it to be, if nothing else, an extremely creative work unlike any tv show that I've ever seen, pardon the hyperbole. Was it as laugh out loud funny as the first three seasons? Probably not. Does that mean the show is worse? Not necessarily, and it could probably use a couple rewatches to come to full judgement, as has always been the case with Arrested Development.
I tried to go into it with an open mind and found it to be, if nothing else, an extremely creative work unlike any tv show that I've ever seen, pardon the hyperbole. Was it as laugh out loud funny as the first three seasons? Probably not. Does that mean the show is worse? Not necessarily, and it could probably use a couple rewatches to come to full judgement, as has always been the case with Arrested Development.
biggest disappointment of all to me? No Franklin
I am still happy it is back but I do feel the characters perhaps aren't strong enough to carry episodes almost completely on their own. It's about the family together and bouncing off each other, I'm not so interested in seeing Lucille interacting with a load of people that for the most part are new to the show.
Anyway, my views may change on reflection and am I still keen for more AD. I just really miss the ensemble :/
Anyway, my views may change on reflection and am I still keen for more AD. I just really miss the ensemble :/
Just finished the season.
Not a fan of the format, but I found the season very enjoyable none-the-less. Some good laughs and the overarching story was enjoyable.
As said, due to the format the episodes dragged a bit because they overexposed one character for 35ish minutes, while neglecting others for hours and hours. Like Buster and Maebe at the beginning and George Sr. at the end. Still I find it worthy of the previous seasons and well worth the watch.
Great use of Simon and Garfunkel for GOB too, love that song.
The ending of the season with
Not a fan of the format, but I found the season very enjoyable none-the-less. Some good laughs and the overarching story was enjoyable.
As said, due to the format the episodes dragged a bit because they overexposed one character for 35ish minutes, while neglecting others for hours and hours. Like Buster and Maebe at the beginning and George Sr. at the end. Still I find it worthy of the previous seasons and well worth the watch.
Great use of Simon and Garfunkel for GOB too, love that song.
The ending of the season with
Michael George punching Michael was great though, loved the reaction shot. Perfect.
A Human Becoming
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I'm going to hold off on deciding whether the season is 'disappointing' until I watch it all, maybe even at least twice. All I can say is I have laughed very hard at spots.
Biggest shock has been some significant character changes, namely Michael and George. Also, the first ten episodes have a severe lack of Buster.
Biggest shock has been some significant character changes, namely Michael and George. Also, the first ten episodes have a severe lack of Buster.
The GOB episode where
that song plays as GOB is smothered my Blank's family was hilarious.
What the hell...episode 6 they set up a really good joke, and then ruin it.
It's like they're afraid of delivering anything that the audience might not understand right away.
Oscar: Does Maisy even know about this?
Lindsay: No, thank god. [and then they ruin it with] And her name is Maeby.
Lindsay: No, thank god. [and then they ruin it with] And her name is Maeby.
It's like they're afraid of delivering anything that the audience might not understand right away.
I did. Seriously, I was blown away catching it on late night TV in 2004. I'd never seen anything like it on television.
I rewatched it at the beginning of the year. In retrospect, perhaps I should have waited.
SlowRevolution
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It might not be as funny as the first three seasons (honestly I liked it more than the third, but that could change after a second viewing), but the "I'm fighting my way through this, I want to stop watching so bad, why did they betray us like this" posts are ridiculous.
It's a great showcase for the Netflix format, at least. I think House of Cards was way better but with a few changes it could've easily been a cable show, this couldn't have.
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