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[King Allant]

The British one or Cinemax's? Keep in mind that Strike Back began as a UK show that somehow diverted into what it is right now. The original show serves as a prequel of sorts for Cinemax's Strike Back, which is less Tom Clancy and more Letal Weapon with high powered guns and exotic locations.

Stay away from the official threads until you catch up. Spoilers abound.

Guess the cinemax one. Can't find the british one on my cable. And spoiler doesn't really bother me.

 

[Funky Papa]

The best thing about Strike Back is that they are pulling better action scenes than most movies, but with a TV budget. Insane.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Seriously guys, I just can't. The second legit superpowers appear on the show, I will be crestfallen.

 

[Wiktor]

I knew I was forgetting something!

Soon to be hopefully joined by Quarry and new 24. Good times ahead for action TV.

 

[DieH@rd]

BWHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Good news everyone, tho:

Spoiler

This unexpected and fresh development gives Awesome Black Canary 1.0 some REALLY significant plot armor.

The dream lives.

What a trainwreck this will be, especially when chesthair beatcop and River Song get involved.


edit - and yes, Strike Back is the best action show on the TV.

 

[DominoKid]

Seriously guys, I just can't. The second legit superpowers appear on the show, I will be crestfallen.

i don't see the big deal...

 

[Funky Papa]

What a trainwreck this will be, especially when chesthair beatcop and River Song get involved.

oh

my

god

If only Tommy had lived to see it.

 

[Clevinger]

What a trainwreck this will be, especially when chesthair beatcop and River Song get involved.


edit - and yes, Strike Back is the best action show on the TV.

Hey, I'm pretty happy Chesthair will have more to do.

However, I think even the Arrow writers can recognize what a misstep that whole River Song bullshit was.

Spoiler

They totally won't and she'll be back and be terrible and oh god

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

i don't see the big deal...

 

[Snake]

However, I think even the Arrow writers can recognize what a misstep that whole River Song bullshit was.

Spoiler

They totally won't and she'll be back and be terrible and oh god

Laurel's mom as season 3 regular incoming.

Season 3 to be called by the showrunners "the Laurel Season."

 

[tim1138]

Why is Superman saying Shazam?
Honestly I find it easier to suspend disbelief about an extraterrestrial with superhuman abilities than a rich sociopath flouncing around at night in bat themed fetish wear acting as a vigilante. And I say that as someone who likes Batman.

 

[Funky Papa]

Laurel's mom as season 3 regular incoming.

Season 3 to be called by the showrunners "the Laurel Season."

 

[Malmorian]

I think they should hold off on introducing any other superheroes until at least season 3. Give this show time to breathe and mature, maaaybe slowly establish some tv shots of superpowered things going on in other cities. Throwing the Flash in this soon just crowds the cast and minimizes the impact of the other support characters like Crixus

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I think they should hold off on introducing any other superheroes until at least season 3. Give this show time to breathe and mature, maaaybe slowly establish some tv shots of superpowered things going on in other cities. Throwing the Flash in this soon just crowds the cast and minimizes the impact of the other support characters like Crixus

I agree with this.

But maybe Allan isn't a superhero at all, just a friend of Oliver's or something.

 

[shadowkat]

No superpowers in Arrow. Plsthx.

No more River Song

LOL

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at Sara being Black Canary. They couldn't just let her be dead.

 

[alexmakitto]

Just read the BIG SPOILER,

Spoiler

Black Canary's identity

... I regret so much now!

 

[Beowulf28]

So obviously the

Spoiler

Sarah

Black Canary will be sacrificed at the altar of Laurel/Ollie ship right?

 

[Funky Papa]

So obviously the

Spoiler

Sarah

Black Canary will be sacrificed at the altar of Laurel/Ollie ship right?

I had no idea that Laurel was being shipped with anybody.

Spoiler

But in my mind I ship her with Thea.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I had no idea that Laurel was being shipped with anybody.

Spoiler

But in my mind I ship her with Thea.

Long as they don't open their mouths, right?

OR DO THEY

 

[DieH@rd]

This whole situation with Thea, Roy, Laurel and Black Cannary.... I really dont know who will have the most awesome trainwreck story. As for now, I assume, they will all be gloriously bad.

 

[DominoKid]

wait you guys are actually surprised at the BC reveal?

Spoiler

it should've been obvious when they started floating the idea that she didn't die on the boat.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

wait you guys are actually surprised at the BC reveal?

Spoiler

it should've been obvious when they started floating the idea that she didn't die on the boat.

No one is actually surprised.

I hope.

We all knew this was coming.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

The Flash On Arrow… Here’s The Scoop From Andrew Kreisberg & Geoff Johns!



http://www.greenarrowtv.com/the-flash-on-arrow-heres-the-scoop/14666

warning spoilers!!

Posted in the other thread.

Potential spoilers, reader beware.

So, here’s the deal: DC Comics character Barry Allen, better known to many as The Flash, is coming to Arrow in Season 2, opening up the world to the larger DC universe. It could lead into a Flash spin-off if all goes well.

Geoff Johns, Greg Berlanti, and Andrew Kreisberg are writing the episodes to introduce Barry, which will see him coming to Starling City in episodes 8 and 9 of Season 2. We’ll see Barry Allen a third time in Arrow Season 2, in episode 20 which will be directed by pilot master David Nutter (helmer of the first episodes of Arrow and Smallville) and, we hope, lead into a show of his own.

Here are some new tidbits from Johns and Kreisberg, gleamed from a press call held this afternoon:

- Barry Allen in the Arrow universe is “just an ordinary forensic scientist working for the Central City Police Department” when we first meet him, Andrew Kreisberg tells us. “As we always do on Arrow, we try to keep things as grounded and realistic as possible, and that is the way the audience will be introduced to Barry and get to know him before his life gets a little bit faster.”

- “That’s part of the fun for the audience, for the ride, to see how we do our ‘Arrow take’ on The Flash legacy,” Kreisberg says about whether or not we’ll see his powers on Arrow. “All that said, he does need powers to become The Flash,” Geoff Johns adds. “He will be The Flash.”

Spoiler

- Johns compares Barry Allen’s arrival on Arrow as being like Barry’s arrival in the comics in Showcase #4, when he ushered in a Silver Age of DC super heroes. “In the same way, he’s going to usher in some new and pretty insane concepts to the Arrow world, but like Andrew said, in a very grounded way.” Characters we know from Arrow will react to the extraordinary changes to their world, hopefully in a very realistic way. “These ‘powers’ won’t be treated as commonplace on the show. They will be extraordinary events, and the world and the characters in them will react accordingly,” Kreisberg says. Barry’s presence is “in addition to Arrow.” “We’re not trying to take away anything from Arrow; we’re really trying to add to Arrow,” Kreisberg adds.

- Doing The Flash as a spin-off was an idea that came from Greg Berlanti. The Flash has always been a favorite for him, and of course has always been well loved by Johns and Kreisberg.

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- Kreisberg sees “something very relatable” about Barry Allen. “He got his powers by accident. He isn’t a God, he isn’t an alien, he wasn’t seeking this out… it sort of came to him, and his reactions to that feel very human and grounded. I know we use that word a lot in Arrow, but that’s really the way it feels,” Kreisberg says. “Oliver Queen is a very dark and tortured soul, and Barry is not. I think it’ll be a fun by-play to see these two characters together, because they both have distinctly different world views, while both caring deeply about right and wrong.”

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- “We’re really focusing on making these episodes the very, very best they can be. Flash deserves it,” Johns says.

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- “He’s a cop. He follows the law, he follows the rules… the last thing in the world he would ever think about is being a vigilante,” Geoff Johns says when detailing differences between him and Oliver. Kreisberg says that Oliver and Barry will learn from each other.

- Casting for the role of Barry Allen was waiting for today’s news to come out first. Now that it’s out there, the search can begin.

- The visual effects for The Flash will be unlike nothing we’ve seen before from the character on things like Smallville or the old Flash TV show. Some inspiration may come from the artwork done by Francis Manapul in The Flash comics from DC Comics.

- As Barry’s first visit to Arrow will be in Starling City, we probably will not see other characters from the Flash world until Episode #2.20 of Arrow.

Seriously, I am not really liking any of this. The only way this flies with me is he's like a freak of nature. And the only one. And there aren't more godly superpowers.

Even then. Even then.

God, my greatest fear is this gets bogged down into a Smallville-esque pit of terrible CGI, random cameos, shitty villains and villain designs (Rubber Suit doomsday), even more ludicrous superpower plots, etc. I like my darker, grounded Arrowverse as it is.

 

[Dongs Macabre]

Posted in the other thread.

Potential spoilers, reader beware.



Seriously, I am not really liking any of this. The only way this flies with me is he's like a freak of nature. And the only one. And there aren't more godly superpowers.

Even then. Even then.

God, my greatest fear is this gets bogged down into a Smallville-esque pit of terrible CGI, random cameos, shitty villains and villain designs (Rubber Suit doomsday), even more ludicrous superpower plots, etc. I like my darker, grounded Arrowverse as it is.

Yeah, not liking this. Hopefully the usage of superpowers is kept to a minimum.

 

[DominoKid]

liking what i'm seeing.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

My bet:

Spoiler

Barry is going to follow a Central City criminal to Starling City, runs into Ollie over the course of his investigation. Second episode is when we get the accident. Barry is exposed to the chemicals and lighting, walks away back to Central City. I think Barry's usage of his abilities will probably be limited during his time on Arrow, if we even see them at all until Episode 20. I think he'll get them during his first appearance, and then actually learn to use them in the backdoor pilot.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

What kind of enemies would Flash have to face? We have to bring in even more superpowered enemies to take him on because most regular enemies like the ones that Oliver faces are no match for him.

 

[TDLink]

What kind of enemies would Flash have to face? We have to bring in even more superpowered enemies to take him on because most regular enemies like the ones that Oliver faces are no match for him.

I think Captain Cold would work pretty well for this show.

 

[Anbokr]

Confirmed - Barry Allen's going to be recurring on Arrow this season.

pls no

 

[ReiGun]

An "Arrow-fied" Captain Boomerang would be good for Barry's introduction. Not a meta so Ollie would be able to fight him, and he's a classic Flash rogue so you can carry him over into the Flash show.

Also, while I know TV isn't as important because reasons, I would love if DC keeps expanding it's universe on television instead of just having a laser focus on movies. Arrow, Flash, Wonder Woman eventually, maybe something off the wall like the Question, and so on.

 

[Portugeezer]

Watched some of the first season, once the intrigue and mystery was gone there was nothing left...

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

Posted in the other thread.

Potential spoilers, reader beware.



Seriously, I am not really liking any of this. The only way this flies with me is he's like a freak of nature. And the only one. And there aren't more godly superpowers.

Even then. Even then.

God, my greatest fear is this gets bogged down into a Smallville-esque pit of terrible CGI, random cameos, shitty villains and villain designs (Rubber Suit doomsday), even more ludicrous superpower plots, etc. I like my darker, grounded Arrowverse as it is.

did you have a problem with a EARTHQUAKE MACHINE?

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

did you have a problem with a EARTHQUAKE MACHINE?

About as much as I had with a Microwave Emitter, a computer that somehow turned every cell phone in a city into a sonar device, and a mobile nuclear core that was somehow impossibly jurry-rigged into a bomb.

There's a difference between sci-fi/high tech machines and people who are essentially gods. I'm okay with the former in a world like the Arrowverse and Nolanverse, not so much the latter.

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

I believe in The Flash. I truly believe they can pull it off.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

About as much as I had with a Microwave Emitter, a computer that somehow turned every cell phone in a city into a sonar device, and a mobile nuclear core that was somehow impossibly jurry-rigged into a bomb.

There's a difference between sci-fi/high tech machines and people who are essentially gods. I'm okay with the former in a world like the Arrowverse and Nolanverse, not so much the latter.

there isn't much. it's things that can do incredible things.... and anyways, they never said Barry would have super powers on Arrow. just that Barry Allen will show up so don't freak out just yet.

 

[Shaanyboi]

I still have yet to start watching this... girlfriend wanted to get into reading Green Arrow and picked up Year One and Longbow Hunters. I'm not sure what expectation to have going into Arrow...

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

there isn't much. it's things that can do incredible things.... and anyways, they never said Barry would have super powers on Arrow. just that Barry Allen will show up so don't freak out just yet.

They already confirmed he'll get powers and become the Flash. Episode 20 will be a backdoor pilot for The Flash.

 

[Wingfan19]

I don't know how you guys can stand NOT seeing super powers in a show about a DC hero. I want cameos all the time and meta humans blasting powers and flying and shit. It's so boring and frustrating to know what can happen and to not see any of it come to fruition. I want The Flash to be in a red suit zipping and flying around near the speed of sound and Black Canary to have an actual canary cry, not some stupid voice modulator device.

 

[DominoKid]

I don't know how you guys can stand NOT seeing super powers in a show about a DC hero. I want cameos all the time and meta humans blasting powers and flying and shit. It's so boring and frustrating to know what can happen and to not see any of it come to fruition. I want The Flash to be in a red suit zipping and flying around near the speed of sound and Black Canary to have an actual canary cry, not some stupid voice modulator device.

secretly this is what i want, but it'd get pretty out of hand. so i'll settle for like half of that.

 

[shadowkat]

I had no idea that Laurel was being shipped with anybody.

Spoiler

But in my mind I ship her with Thea.

I'd say that I ship her with death but I don't actually despise her that much. She's just sort of there.

 

[Clevinger]

Black Canary to have an actual canary cry, not some stupid voice modulator device.

To be honest, the canary cry (superpower or tech) sounds like the lamest shit in the world.

I don't know how you guys can stand NOT seeing super powers in a show about a DC hero. I want cameos all the time and meta humans blasting powers and flying and shit.

It's mainly about TV budgets. It's really hard to make that stuff look good.

 

[ReiGun]

I'd say that I ship her with death but I don't actually despise her that much. She's just sort of there.

So that's what you're into, eh?

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I don't know how you guys can stand NOT seeing super powers in a show about a DC hero. I want cameos all the time and meta humans blasting powers and flying and shit. It's so boring and frustrating to know what can happen and to not see any of it come to fruition. I want The Flash to be in a red suit zipping and flying around near the speed of sound and Black Canary to have an actual canary cry, not some stupid voice modulator device.

Cause I want a badass urban vigilante show, not a shit CGI superhero one.

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

Barry and Felicity are gonna hook up.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Barry and Felicity are gonna hook up.

Wonder if it'll be over in a flash.

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

Wonder if it'll be over in a flash.

Of course, Barry is a GAFer.

 

[Wiktor]

Hate the superpowers idea. Hate them with passion. I hope they will just be there for one episode and them the guy will spinoff to his own show, but still hate it. I wonder if it's really what the showrunners want or is WB just forcing it because they've got a hard-on for Avengers-like convergence.



Not to mention, how will a Flash show even work? He's way to powerful for week to week show with typical TV budget. They should have made Constantine show instead. Or revisit the Deadman idea? I guess that's dead now because Kripke is doing Revolution.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Yeah, maybe I'm being cynical but this stinks of corporate mandate.

 

[ReiGun]

On the one hand, yeah it's probably a corporate mandate. On the other hand, this is what people said they wanted DC to start doing. Interconnected universes and all that jazz.

Regardless, I'd rather wait to see what actually happens in the show than start going insane. I mean hell, the way you guys are acting, you'd think they came out and said the next season would have an appearance from the Doom Patrol or something.

Hate the superpowers idea. Hate them with passion. I hope they will just be there for one episode and them the guy will spinoff to his own show, but still hate it.

That's exactly what's happening. Flash will be in three episodes, the third of which will basically be a backdoor pilot for his show. And he won't even have powers for the majority of his appearance.