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LordCBH
Member
I’m down for raising ire over it, but let’s not act like that’s exclusively a Ubisoft thing. EA does it, Microsoft did it with Forza I think, Activision did it last year. It is, unfortunately, a normalized thing to delay the standard editions a few days.
Alebrije
Gold Member
After Mirage ( a bland/flat Game)..UBI needs a hit with Shadows but honestly UBI came later since Ghost of T. It's been here for years.
Shadows Will be compared with GOT , hope the gameplay is good because if it's the same of previous games it's done.
GOT is a great game, with a good research of japans culture. The trailer of Shadows looks like an anime episode. For a cultural approach GOT looks better.
Hope UBI has great surprises for the gameplay showcase
Shadows Will be compared with GOT , hope the gameplay is good because if it's the same of previous games it's done.
GOT is a great game, with a good research of japans culture. The trailer of Shadows looks like an anime episode. For a cultural approach GOT looks better.
Hope UBI has great surprises for the gameplay showcase
King Dazzar
Member
No worries. Yeah, not sure where the rumour started from now. But it was gaining traction, hence they needed to do a clarifying tweet.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Not defending anything or anyone who wants to shell out 100+ dollars for this game. (I think its scummy to hide missions though)
But lets clear up the editions so there isnt any misinformation.
All the editions that come with the 3 days early also come with other stuff.
Blood Borne
Member
Unapologetically DEI. Hopefully the game fails.
Negotiator101
Member
Actually saw the other thread and yeah it was causing quite the uproar, sorry if i came across the wrong way but I genuinely hadn't seen the other thread.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
The next GoT game is rumored to feature a female lead. Not sure if Jin will be around, but expect to see a female samurai or a female ninja, research be damned.
I guess we will see in a few weeks with the PS showcase rumored for may.
nikolino840
Member
For those who are afraid that it is not historically accurate, it is better to look for a biography on Leonardo da Vinci and see if it corresponds to what da Vinci did in ac2
assassinscreed.fandom.com
Leonardo da Vinci
I'm not content to merely to capture the world. I want to change it.Leonardo to Ezio and Maria Auditore, 1476. Leonardo di ser Piero da Vinci (1452 – 1519), more commonly known simply as Leonardo da Vinci, was an Italian anatomist, sculptor, cartographer, painter, botanist, engineer, architect...
assassinscreed.fandom.com
Hi everyone, I want to share my opinion on this topic.
First, I want to mention that I'm Asian (Vietnamese). I have been a fan of the Assassins Creed series for almost 14 years, from AC 1 to the latest game. This franchise is very dear to me.
And I also want to say that I have great respect for black and African people. I have read several books by Mr. Obama, the former US President, and books by Mrs. Toni Morrison... I also enjoy watching films featuring Black actors such as Denzel Washington and Don Cheadle.... I have great admiration for actor Morgan Freeman; he is like an uncle to me.
I have said those things because I want you to know that I like Black people just like White people or my Asian people. And I also think that having a black lead character like Yasuke in this game is a positive and interesting choice.
But I also want to say that I like to have a choice play as an Asian or Japanese male lead character in this game, the franchise that I care a lot, especially considering the setting and theme of this game. Many of my friends share this sentiment as well.
I hope you understand this is a valid concern because this is a game that we love, I have waited 14 years and when the mainline Assassin's Creed game has an Asian setting but we are not able to play in gender (race) who represents us is very disappointing.
I want to mention that having Naoe as a female Asian lead in the game is great, but as a male fan of the Assassin's Creed franchise, which features a male main lead representing the native countries of their settings in almost every mainline version, I want to have the option to play as a male Asian character (like a choice to play as male ninja/shinobi). It's disappointing that Ubisoft doesn't give us male Asian fans this choice.
As I have said I think Yasuke is an interesting character, and I look forward to playing and know more about him. I respect the game developers' creative intention for their products, It is just that I think Ubisoft should give us Asian people the choice to play as the Asian male lead.
In the end, I hope you respect other people's opinions like us that we want to have a choice to play this game as a Japanese male lead. And do not think we are racist or have bad prejudice against black people, that we are not.
However I also understand that some people who comment on this subject are racist and use discussions like this to spread their hateful views towards Black people while pretending to care about Asian people. I think it's important to call them out for this terrible behavior before it harms other people.
I still like this game and will buy it, I just wish there was a chance for us Asian male fans, sigh.
Thank you everyone for reading my comment.
First, I want to mention that I'm Asian (Vietnamese). I have been a fan of the Assassins Creed series for almost 14 years, from AC 1 to the latest game. This franchise is very dear to me.
And I also want to say that I have great respect for black and African people. I have read several books by Mr. Obama, the former US President, and books by Mrs. Toni Morrison... I also enjoy watching films featuring Black actors such as Denzel Washington and Don Cheadle.... I have great admiration for actor Morgan Freeman; he is like an uncle to me.
I have said those things because I want you to know that I like Black people just like White people or my Asian people. And I also think that having a black lead character like Yasuke in this game is a positive and interesting choice.
But I also want to say that I like to have a choice play as an Asian or Japanese male lead character in this game, the franchise that I care a lot, especially considering the setting and theme of this game. Many of my friends share this sentiment as well.
I hope you understand this is a valid concern because this is a game that we love, I have waited 14 years and when the mainline Assassin's Creed game has an Asian setting but we are not able to play in gender (race) who represents us is very disappointing.
I want to mention that having Naoe as a female Asian lead in the game is great, but as a male fan of the Assassin's Creed franchise, which features a male main lead representing the native countries of their settings in almost every mainline version, I want to have the option to play as a male Asian character (like a choice to play as male ninja/shinobi). It's disappointing that Ubisoft doesn't give us male Asian fans this choice.
As I have said I think Yasuke is an interesting character, and I look forward to playing and know more about him. I respect the game developers' creative intention for their products, It is just that I think Ubisoft should give us Asian people the choice to play as the Asian male lead.
In the end, I hope you respect other people's opinions like us that we want to have a choice to play this game as a Japanese male lead. And do not think we are racist or have bad prejudice against black people, that we are not.
However I also understand that some people who comment on this subject are racist and use discussions like this to spread their hateful views towards Black people while pretending to care about Asian people. I think it's important to call them out for this terrible behavior before it harms other people.
I still like this game and will buy it, I just wish there was a chance for us Asian male fans, sigh.
Thank you everyone for reading my comment.
balls of snow
Gold Member
Haaa finally something we agree on
EDMIX
instead of bickering about cdpr games lol. See you day 1 brother.
alexaxel99
Neo Member
I do not have any good expectations of this game, between the usual stuff of the boring and bloated, monotonous and boring gameplay and story of Ubisoft style of games and the scummy approach to microtransactions and price they damaged their reputation and right now Ubisoft is synonymous of mediocrity. And about the character of Yosuke, it could be an interesting story to see a new perspective of Japan and all the misteries that involves this character but to be honest, the story and characters are being written by the Oddysey team and that game had one of the worst stories and characters that i have played and is specially jarring in this type of games. Another thing to add is that Ubisoft needs this game to be successful at all costs, more after the big flops of the incredible AAAA of Skull and Bones and Avatar ( 80% of Ubisoft's total value evaporated over the period of 8 year, this is an absolutely decline in their results.). And to think how i loved this franchise especially with AC2 which is one of my favourite games that i have ever played, made with true love and passion compared with the games that they make today.
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DavidGzz
Member
Imagine being able to switch characters on the fly. You want to be out in the open and call your enemies to you, choose the Samurai. Want stealth? Choose the ninja. Would help to differentiate this game from the rest of AC.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I'd rather have a new Tenchu. Problem with AC is if you play one you've played them all. All Ubisoft games follow the same structure.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
GooseMan69
Member
GooseMan69
Member
You just know most of the people slamming the game are gonna end up buying it and getting absolutely addicted to it for a few weeks lol.
Ubisoft is the McDonald’s of gaming. Nobody wants to admit they like it but everyone goes anyway.
Ubisoft is the McDonald’s of gaming. Nobody wants to admit they like it but everyone goes anyway.
feynoob
Banned
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
Haaa finally something we agree on
Truth.
I don't see the issue that the thread is crying about because this is a franchise that has no actual base in telling some historical factual thing. None of the things that are being discussed are even reasons I've ever purchased a game or reasons I would ever avoid a game. Even the things I say about CD project red ultimately if they put out a good game or a game that looks like it's going to be interesting I'm still going to purchase it because the game comes first.
Look honestly that simply should have been what you are saying since the very start. It's okay to have a different opinion I'm not knocking that you do, Simply you must accept that other people genuinely have a different opinion instead of making it sound like someone is forcing themselves to like something you dislike , it sounds really weird like you honestly cannot fathom that someone disagrees with you to the point of making it sound like they're forcing themselves to like something lol
The fact that someone's playing a video game for fun that you may dislike should not be a debatable thing on here.... If you right now tell me you enjoy some game that I dislike why would I spend this energy trying to pretend you must hate it and you're just lying to me and your forcing yourself to like it?
I have no issue with us discussing games, But what should not be done on here is debating someone just playing a damn game, this should be completely understood.
I personally don't care bud, I'm not playing this game based on something that's never been done before, there's lots of games that I play that are kind of standard stuff like the Persona series or even Dragon Quest or even puzzle games like Lumines many times I'm playing a game based on stuff that I'm familiar with that I enjoy.....thats it
So I love new concepts as well stuff like Dreams or Death Stranding that aim to do something different, that does not actually mean I exclusively seek to play something like that I also enjoy stuff like Yakuza that unapologetically go in one direction with very little change often. Not everything needs to be radically different to be entertaining or to be something someone wants to purchase this should never even be some prerequisite to liking a game or something..
I don't see much evidence of that you're also talking about the best selling assassin's creed game in history so clearly millions don't really agree with you...So..."worse" is an opinion that doesn't seem to be backed up by any data to support some wild backlash of less buying it. Its hard to get someone to be upset about something having lots of content lol To many, they may not see it the way you do bud. Even I didn't play all of Valhalla 100% and I don't see it having more content as this negative thing.
As if me having less of something is a benefit somehow lol Pay more for less.....not sure about all that. (well I don't 100% most games these days so maybe that is why I generally don't give a shit about this so called issue lol)
All the games you listed I also purchased as well, And I don't think any of those games are any better than the other games, they all do unique things differently and have their own twist which is why I purchased all of them but I don't put them all against each other simply because they're all based in Japan
That would be like fucking trying to ask someone if gta is better than The division simply because they both take place in the United States....
I mean you do understand that a country is not a fucking genre right?
I don't even see the point in bringing up Star Wars Outlaws because the game didn't even come out, So I'm not trying to be mean but I just don't purchase games based on people's feelings of a corporate decision and you're talking to a person that has openly made so many statements against CD project Red and I'm still fucking telling you I would still buy their games if the game is actually good...
So any criticism I have for a publisher in regards to their practices as a business does not fucking mean I base buying my games on something like this it has no place when actually just discussing a fucking video game..
So I'm not saying that this is the perfect company, If anything I'm saying what fucking company are you buying games from that magically has done nothing wrong is just 100% innocent and you could vet every fucking employee to virtual signal something lol
I just buy games for fun
Don't care if it does something new or not, don't care about your feelings on history on a fake video game about DNA going back in time, don't care the company does wild company things, what fucking publisher doesn't?
I just buy games if they are fun sir. Thats it.
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Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
I haven't really followed any Assassin's Creed games since over a decade.
Where does the story go now? Last I remembered it was pretty much a rip off of Zechariah Sitchin's theories about ancient alien astronauts and how they supposedly genetically created humans.
I mean they take some of his books like Genesis Revisited verbatim.
Where does the story go now? Last I remembered it was pretty much a rip off of Zechariah Sitchin's theories about ancient alien astronauts and how they supposedly genetically created humans.
I mean they take some of his books like Genesis Revisited verbatim.
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FunkMiller
Gold Member
GymWolf
Gold Member
There was ever a doubt? Ac sells like hotcakes.
balls of snow
Gold Member
i would tell you, I was so into Origins and Odyssey but Valhalla just took the will out of me finishing it. All I know is Loki is a major player/villain/anti-hero of the series now.
Roufianos
Member
I don't think is worth anything more than a sigh at best but Ubisoft has been doing this a while.
Us Greeks were absolutely shafted with Cleopatra and Ptolemy portrayed as basically Sri Lankans in Origins.
Not to mention the random super dark skinned NPCs you would find in Odyssey. Greeks are somewhat swarthy, no doubt, but not to that level and they had more of them than fairer skinned people, who form a huge part of the Greek population.
Race is just an obsession for Ubisoft.
Us Greeks were absolutely shafted with Cleopatra and Ptolemy portrayed as basically Sri Lankans in Origins.
Not to mention the random super dark skinned NPCs you would find in Odyssey. Greeks are somewhat swarthy, no doubt, but not to that level and they had more of them than fairer skinned people, who form a huge part of the Greek population.
Race is just an obsession for Ubisoft.
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Stafford
Member
Can motherfuckers at least keep the same energy? Where was the hate for this?
Anime of Yasuke, in fact I'm gonna put this on my to watch list. It's by Mappa.
- He was a boss fight in Nioh and as we all know, the game was made by Team Ninja based in Japan. He was voiced by Richie Campbell.
- Koei Tecmo's 2021 video game Samurai Warriors 5 includes Yasuke as a playable character, voiced by Paddy Ryan.
- A black samurai inspired by Yasuke, named Nagoriyuki, appears in Arc System Works' 2021 fighting game Guilty Gear Strive.
- Lionsgate was making a movie about him starring the late Chadwick Boseman.
And we can go on! Japan clearly is very ok with it, in fact they did it way before Ubi did. This situation is hilarious and embarrassing.
Anime of Yasuke, in fact I'm gonna put this on my to watch list. It's by Mappa.
- He was a boss fight in Nioh and as we all know, the game was made by Team Ninja based in Japan. He was voiced by Richie Campbell.
- Koei Tecmo's 2021 video game Samurai Warriors 5 includes Yasuke as a playable character, voiced by Paddy Ryan.
- A black samurai inspired by Yasuke, named Nagoriyuki, appears in Arc System Works' 2021 fighting game Guilty Gear Strive.
- Lionsgate was making a movie about him starring the late Chadwick Boseman.
And we can go on! Japan clearly is very ok with it, in fact they did it way before Ubi did. This situation is hilarious and embarrassing.
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Majormaxxx
Member
we don't hate Yasuke, we hate ubi agenda. This was done on purpose to follow DEI plan.Can motherfuckers at least keep the same energy? Where was the hate for this?
Anime of Yasuke, in fact I'm gonna put this on my to watch list. It's by Mappa.
- He was a boss fight in Nioh and as we all know, the game was made by Team Ninja based in Japan. He was voiced by Richie Campbell.
- Koei Tecmo's 2021 video game Samurai Warriors 5 includes Yasuke as a playable character, voiced by Paddy Ryan.
- A black samurai inspired by Yasuke, named Nagoriyuki, appears in Arc System Works' 2021 fighting game Guilty Gear Strive.
- Lionsgate was making a movie about him starring the late Chadwick Boseman.
And we can go on! Japan clearly is very ok with it, in fact they did it way before Ubi did. This situation is hilarious and embarrassing.
there is a freaking difference. Your post insinuates people are just racists.
and Japan is not ok with it - just read the youtube comments.
Stafford
Member
Unless there is no agenda? Look, I hate forced "woke" shit as much as anyone, but perhaps there is no agenda here? I'm not insinuating a damn thing. That being said, I've seen some takes on Twitter that ARE downright racist, and quite fucking extreme at that too.
Let's just wait and see, for all we know they tell a really cool story here.
March Climber
Gold Member
*Mods close the other thread (should be seen as a warning sign for GAF)*
People who weren't done arguing:
People who weren't done arguing:
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Hero_Select
Member
I am cautiously optimistic about the game. Probably the first time I've been interested in an Assassins Creed game since Odyssey. I really dont care about all the "black samurai in Japan" hubbub but it really does shine a light on the hypocrisy. Especially in the other place.
AssCreed is okay
Resident Evil 5 is not
why? all the reasons i've seen are just.. stupid.
AssCreed is okay
Resident Evil 5 is not
why? all the reasons i've seen are just.. stupid.
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Majormaxxx
Member
Origins was extremely well done as well in my opinion.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Mike Ybarra ready to tip them on top.Honestly, what kind of fucking idiot do you have to be to be falling for this shit in 2024?
Black dude ain't the problem here.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Hero_Select
Member
I haven't played Origins but I want to get around to it at some point. Egypt is such a cool location and it being closer to the gameplay of Odyssey is a bonus, Mirage I didn't really like.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Origins is more like mirage than it is odyssey to be honest.
Valhalla is closer to odyssey but odyssey is just a better game in every aspect of that formula.
Majormaxxx
Member
Origin is beautiful, the protagonist is extremely cool and likeable. Seriously the voice actor is ace. If you care about Egypt, you'll like it. It's longish however. Get it on a digital sale for peanuts and enjoy!
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Yeah origins is a slight bit under odyssey for me but only by a hair. I loved origin start to finish.
Hero_Select
Member
Oh I was under the impression it had similar combat. I bought Valhalla day 1 when the new consoles came out. It was okay. I remember wishing it took place entirely on Nordic lands instead of going to England immediately.
Oh yeah thats the primary reason I want to play it. It's a perfect setting and Egypt is goddamn beautiful.
I guess I really don't know why I skipped it.
After Assassins Creed 3 I lost a lot of interest in the series, especially with the lame "present day" sections, I'm glad the games have been moving more and more away from it.
ShadyAcshuns
Member
So many suckers, so little time.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Majormaxxx
Member
Well that's just gaslighting
Venom Snake
Member
Ah yes, Asians in Asia are not that interesting, so this one and only black dude in Japan at that time had to have enough charisma to become the main character of the game, which, as i remember, AC fans had been asking for for many years. IGN won't fool me with this, it's just another checkbox game which stinks of Sweet Baby Inc from a mile away. There are dozens of interesting characters and stories from feudal Japan, but what a coincidence that this one took the spotlight above everything else.
It's not that people are disappointed that writers made this particular decision, people are disappointed because it's so predictable.
In times when aggressive, irritating activists try to forcefully influence creative processes, such things will be discouraging to a large group of people.
Maybe ten years ago such a choice would have been considered unconventional, interesting even. But not today, and all thanks to those who allegedly promote diversity in media (allegedly, because they achieved the exact opposite).
This must be a frustrating testimony of their own incompetence, because all they can do is accuse people of being "mad", when in fact it's something fundamentally different. This is a separate topic for discussion, reliable journalism should be able to put itself on both sides of the argument, these idiots prefer to lecture us instead, suspect of bad intentions, so they can fuck off.
As for the game: i'm not buying it.
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Oddvintagechap
Member
What culture war? Im literally laughing that all these dorks that think making games about this historical person should be banned.