Assassin's Creed Unity - PC Performance thread
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deeptech
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I was reading about it few days ago in this article , stumbled upon it pretty randomly and was very surprised
http://asidcast.com/index.php/2014/11/ex-ubisoft-employee-talks-experience/
Personally i believe it , and pretty much agree with what writer at the end says.
If he really thought 90%+ of PC gamers are pirates, they'd have stopped making full priced titles for PC. That's obviously not sustainable. Nobody would keep making PC ports of games if they weren't moderately profitable.
jellies_two
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^^^ BS
Tried it today (I got it from the nVidia coupon earlier this week but didn't play it until now because of WoW) and I have to say I am very disappointed in the performance so far.
i7 2600k, 4.4 Ghz
GTX 780 SLI, stock
MX 100 512GB SSD
8 GB DDR3 1600 RAM
2560 x 1600 Dell monitor
I am averaging sub 30 FPS with default settings the game booted with :-/ .
i7 2600k, 4.4 Ghz
GTX 780 SLI, stock
MX 100 512GB SSD
8 GB DDR3 1600 RAM
2560 x 1600 Dell monitor
I am averaging sub 30 FPS with default settings the game booted with :-/ .
GHG
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So I got this game yesterday. Retail of all things as well. Grabbed the Bastille edition for equivalent to 30 dollars because a store had clearly mispriced it so I thought why the hell not. 5 (!) DVD install but still better than having to do a lengthy download.
Getting great performance on my rig. Much better than I expected. The game is smooth and looks great. I just got to Paris and I must say I'm very impressed. Had a few isolated instances of npc pop in but nothing severe. This is what I get running the latest patch and latest nvidia drivers:
Indoors 60fps
Regular gameplay 50-60 fps
Heavy crowds 40-50 fps
Cutscenes 30-40 fps
Running at 2048 x 1152 (downsampled to 1080p) , everything maxed apart from AA on FXAA.
i5 3570k @ 4.6 ghz
GTX 660 SC 3GB SLI
16gb RAM
I must say I'm pretty chuffed as I thought that I would need to upgrade my GPUs this year but they are still going strong and spanking everything aside provided I don't push the resolution too far above 1080p. Think I'll stick with what I have until I get a 4k TV towards the end of next year, don't need much more TBH.
Getting great performance on my rig. Much better than I expected. The game is smooth and looks great. I just got to Paris and I must say I'm very impressed. Had a few isolated instances of npc pop in but nothing severe. This is what I get running the latest patch and latest nvidia drivers:
Indoors 60fps
Regular gameplay 50-60 fps
Heavy crowds 40-50 fps
Cutscenes 30-40 fps
Running at 2048 x 1152 (downsampled to 1080p) , everything maxed apart from AA on FXAA.
i5 3570k @ 4.6 ghz
GTX 660 SC 3GB SLI
16gb RAM
I must say I'm pretty chuffed as I thought that I would need to upgrade my GPUs this year but they are still going strong and spanking everything aside provided I don't push the resolution too far above 1080p. Think I'll stick with what I have until I get a 4k TV towards the end of next year, don't need much more TBH.
Lockjaw333
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Moral Panic
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Really? Ports don't cost that much. Ubisoft said before that a WiiU port costs ~1 million euros http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articl...says-wii-u-ports-costing-under-USD1-3-million and I'd wager that a PC port would costs less + NVIDIA kickbacks.
GHG
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I noticed minimal difference in the framerate (literally ~5 fps give or take) switching up to 2048 x 1152 from 1080p. I got a huge drop off when I pushed it to 2400 x 1350 though. 1080p doesn't improve the minimum framerates when in densely crowded areas either. That's down to the CPU.
Happy to sacrifice a couple of frames to slightly improve my IQ and clear up some of the shimmering on gold fittings in the indoor areas.
ISee
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Could be the connection to Uplay. My game looses connectivity all the time and everytime it does it stutters for a second. Going offline solved that for me.
icecold1983
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http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Assas...eature-von-Nvidia-im-Video-Vergleich-1143504/
great video showing how broken txaa is in this title.
great video showing how broken txaa is in this title.
plumpblumpkin
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Hey is anyone else having high CPU usage with the game?? It's always in the 90/100 on all cores constantly... I mean I'm sure that's whats causing my lower than normal frame rates..
I'm in the 50s mostly with everything on ultra except shadows on High and FXAA.
I have a 970 and 3570k 4.4ghz.
I'm in the 50s mostly with everything on ultra except shadows on High and FXAA.
I have a 970 and 3570k 4.4ghz.
STILLethal
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Whats the best way to lock it a
smooth 30fps?
Through nVidia cp or Rivatuner?
how should I set everything up. The stuttering/framedrops become worse and worse the more I play
smooth 30fps?
Through nVidia cp or Rivatuner?
how should I set everything up. The stuttering/framedrops become worse and worse the more I play
GHG
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What's it Oc'd to? If it's at 4.5 ghz and above you might be ok for 30fps at 1080 with most things maxed.
deeptech
Member
Inspector or NVCP use half-refresh vsync. But to get more stable frametimes set RTSS to 30 as well. I tried it but it was way too hard for me to play , i start to feel sick after short time. Strange how some games like Dark Souls on PC run at 30fps and i have zero problems. But AC:Unity for example is totally unplayable for me.
You can also try and OC your monitor to 70hz and then halve it at 35fps for a little smoother experience.
Same here , same settings except i got 4670k , although i don't seem to get CPU bound 99% of the time , there are few scenes that make my GPU usage dip by few percent. OC didn't help at all , it was bit strange
STILLethal
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Man...i know what you mean. Difference between 30 and 60Fps is huge. But since i dont have a high end rig currently, might as well set it to 30-35fps and turn everythng up and enjoy this beauty (even though it seems like i still have to set textures to High, ultra high makes fps all over the place it seems)
For the people with stuttering and bad performance, this simple fix solved ALL stuttering in my case too:
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/957078-100-working-fix-for-bad-lag-stutter-mouse-movement!!
So what you do is, when at main menu in game, open your task manager and right click ACU.exe and set Priority to NORMAL!
Techical information:
Since the CPU gets ordered to prioritize calculations for ACU game instead of basic window's functions that is in task manager, it does not have the equal priority for all the processes, instead you could say it puts lower priorty for ex. mouse than the game itself.
So by putting the game to normal, it CAN happen that you may loose...1FPS at highest, but instead get totally smooth mouse movement
After trying all possible combintations of settings, forcing TripleBuffer, limiting framerate, etc. with RadeonPro, DXtory, RTSS, ... this is the only fix that makes the game smooth for me, and I am playing with an Xbone controller, so this is not just a mouse related fix.
Kudos to totte115 for the great finding.
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/957078-100-working-fix-for-bad-lag-stutter-mouse-movement!!
So what you do is, when at main menu in game, open your task manager and right click ACU.exe and set Priority to NORMAL!
Techical information:
Since the CPU gets ordered to prioritize calculations for ACU game instead of basic window's functions that is in task manager, it does not have the equal priority for all the processes, instead you could say it puts lower priorty for ex. mouse than the game itself.
So by putting the game to normal, it CAN happen that you may loose...1FPS at highest, but instead get totally smooth mouse movement
After trying all possible combintations of settings, forcing TripleBuffer, limiting framerate, etc. with RadeonPro, DXtory, RTSS, ... this is the only fix that makes the game smooth for me, and I am playing with an Xbone controller, so this is not just a mouse related fix.
Kudos to totte115 for the great finding.
Excellent find. If it works for me I'll report back. I basically have a solid 30fps at max settings, but there is some very subtle stutter from time to time that hopefully this will help with.
Update:
Same computer specs but I moved the game over to my TV (1080p) and set the settings ranging from Very High/High and with FXAA. I am getting absolute shitty performance and to make things worse there is hitching in the game that I can't explain what's causing it. This is so fucking infuriating.
This makes no sense... How can you have so much better performance at a higher resolution and better settings...
STILLethal
Member
Same exact thing here, about to give up and wait a few weeks until they fix everything
GHG
Gold Member
No idea mate. What frames are you getting at 1080p? Only thing I was going to suggest is to try using FXAA over any of the other AA solutions since you are limited to 3GB but that doesn't seem to have helped in your case.
Might point towards a CPU or system RAM issue? Maybe 8GB is a bit low?
Which Nvidia drivers are you on?
Boulotaur2024
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AMD 7950
Intel i5-3450
Latest beta drivers
Running the game limited at 25/26 fps seems to do the trick. Everything on Ultra high, FXAA, 1680x1050
I won't complain. I can live with the sub-par framerate as the game is seriously a beauty to look at.
EDIT : ok the 5 sec. freeze is annoying though. Should I wait for another patch or play the game anyway. Mmm I don't know...
EDIT : ok that's it I give up. The freezes are unbearable, especially outdoors in large npc crowds. I only have 4gb of RAM though. Could be related but I think this is an engine issue. Other than the technical issues I'm bored to death "playing" these games as usual. The whole interactive movie aspeect doesn't appeal to me anymore (then again I enjoyed The Walking Dead so I don't know...)
Intel i5-3450
Latest beta drivers
Running the game limited at 25/26 fps seems to do the trick. Everything on Ultra high, FXAA, 1680x1050
EDIT : ok the 5 sec. freeze is annoying though. Should I wait for another patch or play the game anyway. Mmm I don't know...
EDIT : ok that's it I give up. The freezes are unbearable, especially outdoors in large npc crowds. I only have 4gb of RAM though. Could be related but I think this is an engine issue. Other than the technical issues I'm bored to death "playing" these games as usual. The whole interactive movie aspeect doesn't appeal to me anymore (then again I enjoyed The Walking Dead so I don't know...)
Brerlappin
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Getting seriously pissed off with this now. The game has taken to crashing almost every 15 minutes. Only get this, it only happens when playing on my TV @ 1080p. If I play on my 1680x1050 monitor, its fine. But for some reason, it crashes constantly @ 1080p. Not only that, but when it crashes, it fucks up the audio on my TV and no matter what I do post crash, I have no sound whatsoever, and only a reboot will fix it.
I got it to crash less frequently by putting uplay in offline mode (lasted 58 mins without a crash then), but this is bullshit. Having to reboot the fucking PC every time this shit crashes is just unacceptable. Id been enjoying the game up til now but this is indefensible.
I got it to crash less frequently by putting uplay in offline mode (lasted 58 mins without a crash then), but this is bullshit. Having to reboot the fucking PC every time this shit crashes is just unacceptable. Id been enjoying the game up til now but this is indefensible.
The guide by AndyBNV on geforce.com suggests the following settings for a 770 to keep above 40fps:
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/assassins-creed-unity-graphics-and-performance-guide
Where does the MFAA run into this?
Seen the screenshots for this on high end PC and decided to use my Free-coupon to get AC: Parity, wasn't gonna pay for it with Ubi's crap but the shots look absolutely stunning.
I haven't really played much, just to the opening scene with Arno, temped to wait until the tessellation patch comes out (whenever that is) as got plenty to keep me occupied, dragonage still to purchase + obsessed with dayz.
Curious how MFAA would run on a 980GTX @1510mhz, 7480mhz, 4.7ghz 4790k @ 1440p DSR compared to the other variations.
icecold1983
Member
stick to fxaa, it works better
Not for me. MFAA works wonders. Put it at 2xMSAA, activate MFAA and judge for yourself honestly. You have the hardware, give it a try
icecold1983
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Not for me. MFAA works wonders. Put it at 2xMSAA, activate MFAA and judge for yourself honestly. You have the hardware, give it a try
i have. the shimmering and flickering is unbearable with any option besides fxaa.
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Assas...eature-von-Nvidia-im-Video-Vergleich-1143504/
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Nvidia-Geforce-Grafikkarte-255598/Videos/Nvidia-MFAA-Video-1143013/
first video is fxaa compared to txaa, 2nd video is msaa 2x compared to mfaa 4x. ill stick with fxaa unless something is fixed.
I know Reddit has one of these things every other week, with half of them turning out to be bullshit, but nothing in that image seems outrageously improbable to me.
It's basically: Higher ups at Ubi don't give a shit about a game's quality, just to hit the fiscal deadlines.
I don't need an insider to tell me that, it's very much evident by what they release year in/year out.
Did some testing with MFAA/MSAA, MSAA, FXAA... I personally found FXAA to be too soapy, similar to MFAA....
Do not know if it is just me, but seems that MFAA screws up the shadows, the smaller detailed shadows.. for MSAA x4 (with MFAA off) seems cleaner, sharper, no soaping, with full shadows, I get around 55fps on streets with crowds (start of the game) with jumps staying over 60fps so performance gains seem negligible with everything maxed out at 1080p.
Admittedly though my eyes are a little inexperienced with the comparisons.
STILLethal
Member
So any fixes currently for the constant freezing when playing on a TV? I basically turned down most setting to low-high and turned off AA, and while the game runs fine and smooth most of the time (heck even the cutscenes) the constant 5-15second freezes every now an then is unbearable.
Anyone?
Edit: im guessing maybe the auto-saving has something to do with it?
Any way to disable it?
Anyone?
Edit: im guessing maybe the auto-saving has something to do with it?
Any way to disable it?
You already tried setting the ACU.exe process priority to "Normal" in the task manager?
GHG
Gold Member
Is that at 1080p?
If so, thats actually suggestive of SLI not working for you since the performance on my 2 cards in SLI is normally just above what you would expect from a single GTX 780.
Make sure you have the 344.75 drivers installed. Download them from Nvidia's website and manually install them even if you have done previously on geforce experience. I had to manually install those drivers as Geforce Experience didn't install them properly.
Cross quoting myself from another thread. The problem fixed itself after I disabled SLI and re-enabled it. Weird. But at least it works now.
Everything maxed out except AA (Using FXAA) I am 60 FPS locked.
Cut scenes drop to 50s sometimes but I am happy with the performance now.
plumpblumpkin
Member
Isn't the new patch supposed to be out today??
paolo11
Member
How is the framerate when playing it on your 1080p TV?
The requirements turned out to be highly exaggerated. An HD7970 (one of the minimum cards) can run the game at ultra settings, FXAA and get mostly 30fps at 1080p.
As far as I know they haven't given a date for the next patch.
Heard nothing about it. Last update on their 'update blog' was dated 13th Nov
mugurumakensei
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gpu reqs were overexaggerated. cpu reqs on the other hand were mostly inline with whats actually needed
plumpblumpkin
Member
Is your card or CPU overclocked or something? because I have pretty much the same setup as you (3570k) I'm in the 30s when running around on the streets with those settings..
One thing I hate about late November games is that patches will be half assed until December due to the holiday season. I don't think we'll get any patches this week.
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