Betta Lines
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The DFP will work for sure. Don't know about the other... a wireless wheel seems like a bad idea, so I'd pick the DFP anyway.
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Assetto Corsa: Early Access |OT|
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throwawayname
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Thanks.
GitarooMan
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Ally1987
Member
This is why I've hesitated and haven't bought it yet. It DOES sound like it's really good, but I'm not that serious of racing sim fan and half of this was spurned by renting and liking GT6. But I suspect I'd be better off buying GT6 for now and getting this later.
Cool, thanks. Cant really complain. The content is such high quality, its worth a bit of money. As long as I'm not paying iRacing prices!
I experience a fair amount of tearing myself. But I cant turn on vsync. Not with a game like this. I should probably look into triple-buffering, but I can be a bit lazy about things.
Betta Lines
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Triple buffering is an addition to v-sync, so you get the input lag from v-sync plus a bit more. Not recommended.
Yeah the frame limiter definitely reduces tearing. I'm just disappointed I can't get RadeonPro working, it just crashes on double click.
Performance seems to get better and better. World detail at max, 8x aa, and high shadows seem to get around 120 fps at 1080p. Hovers around 60 on my 1440p display.
Performance seems to get better and better. World detail at max, 8x aa, and high shadows seem to get around 120 fps at 1080p. Hovers around 60 on my 1440p display.
Betta Lines
Member
That's debateable. The limiter will make the framerate more consistent, which might reduce tearing if you were getting really variable fps, but if you run the limiter at exactly the same as the monitor refresh rate, that tends to make the tearing appear at exactly the same height all the time, which can be even more noticeable. Putting it at a different value helps, but makes the game look more stuttery. There is no ideal solution unfortunately. I go with the limiter at exactly 60 like my monitor, which gives me loads of noticeable tearing right in my eye line, but at least the game looks smooth (like v-sync) so I live with it.
G-sync will solve all of this, can't come soon enough! It's gonna make a huge difference to sims.
I also noticed better performance, I ran 1080p medium to high without dropping below 60fps on my 5870 1Gb for the last hour or so. Previously running 720p with frame dips every so often.
I'm back to 720p with 8xAA and 16xAF now as my TV is 720P and the HUD is too tiny at 1080p.
I'm running the limiter at 59 at 60hz, hardly any tearing, no stuttering at all. Pioneer Kuro maybe helping here.
I'm back to 720p with 8xAA and 16xAF now as my TV is 720P and the HUD is too tiny at 1080p.
I'm running the limiter at 59 at 60hz, hardly any tearing, no stuttering at all. Pioneer Kuro maybe helping here.
Big Takeover
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The E30 is a love isn't it? Didn't get a chance to try the 599 or Z4 yet. Looking forward to it though.
The F40... I actually stopped half way through a lap, and quit out because I had to have confirmation that a 2400 pound supercar couldn't possibly have such bad brakes. There's just no way. Google F40 brakes. First hit - F40 brakes are terrible and borderline dangerous. I had no idea! Small and unassisted.
The junk default tires don't help matters at all either.
The F40... I actually stopped half way through a lap, and quit out because I had to have confirmation that a 2400 pound supercar couldn't possibly have such bad brakes. There's just no way. Google F40 brakes. First hit - F40 brakes are terrible and borderline dangerous. I had no idea! Small and unassisted.
The junk default tires don't help matters at all either.
microtubule
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Interesting about the F40 brakes. Anyways, just did a few laps around Mugello with the F40 and it was much more enjoyable with the non-default tires and 360 gamepad.
TJP
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Very interesting link!
Watch the following video from about 4 minutes onwards..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MDTcXGsjuo Chris's borrowed car must have undergone a brake upgrade because he describes them as 'good'. I may be able to replicate the powerslides he manages in the video 8)
Windom Earle
Member
I wanna see some drift gameplay with the F40. 
Nice driving!
It better does, still scared to see what happens to my performance when we have multiple cars on track.
Here I leave you a gameplay with two of the new cars added today in Assetto Corsa, are the Ferrari 599XX Evolution and Ferrari F40, and the lap is also in a new circuit added today, Monza Circuit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRrzoDpbeKs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0dDDAY8NeQ
I hope you enjoy it!
Nice driving!
It better does, still scared to see what happens to my performance when we have multiple cars on track.
The E30 grp A is just amazing, It's so much fun it just reacts so well to all inputs and it's so quick and agile hell of a car, that works on the bigger tracks and on the smaller ones. I really can see me using that thing the most out of the current cars.
Yeah breaks on the F40 aren't that great and you are at pretty high speeds to add the low grip tyres and you have to slow that thing down way earlier then expected. I'm still having fun with it, after you slowed it down it's a blast and to manage the turbo lag is nice, I feel that outside of the breaks it drives nice on the modern street tyres. The Step 3 version of it is just madness.......
I didn't drive much of the 599 but what I did it seems to be amazing, incredibly fast and my god that thing just turns in and is precise, It feels a bit like the Zonda R but way better.
This update really has blown me away the cars are great and they also did something to the 458, feels better now then before and has a S3 upgrade.
Windom Earle
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Alright, so I ran some "extensive" performance tests on my rig. To have a worst case performance scenario I recommend recording a one lap replay of Monza 1966. Then you can mess around with your settings and just load the replay from the main menu without the need to go into the game.
Performance seems to be improved indeed. I was not able to run MSAA @60fps locked previously but I am now. So I switched from 6xFXAA to 4XMSAA. The improvement in picture quality is worth it.
Here are my current settings. OC single GTX680 + 3770K @4,2.
I could up the world detail setting to maximum and faces per frame to 6 if I would settle with FXAA. However, I am not really able to see a difference, while the added clarity of MSAA is a huge difference to my eyes. Max shadow resolution and reflection resolution are an absolute no go for the moment.
I will not turn off V-Sync, tearing destroys every game for me. Waiting for G-Sync indeed.
Performance seems to be improved indeed. I was not able to run MSAA @60fps locked previously but I am now. So I switched from 6xFXAA to 4XMSAA. The improvement in picture quality is worth it.
Here are my current settings. OC single GTX680 + 3770K @4,2.
I could up the world detail setting to maximum and faces per frame to 6 if I would settle with FXAA. However, I am not really able to see a difference, while the added clarity of MSAA is a huge difference to my eyes. Max shadow resolution and reflection resolution are an absolute no go for the moment.
I will not turn off V-Sync, tearing destroys every game for me. Waiting for G-Sync indeed.
TJP
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I don't know if you've seen them but I posted graphical settings tips from Kunos in post 100: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=89194285&postcount=100
Regarding your motion blur settings, Stefano posted the following a while back
That said, if you're happy with the settings you posted ignore my dribble and keep on lapping 8)
Windom Earle
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Yes, saw them
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=94284052&postcount=794 I felt it was time for another test. As for motion blur, it really didn't seem to make a difference on my rig, so I cranked it up to the max. Will have another look at it though, that was some time ago, maybe it was changed.
Edit: Had another look. Turning down motion blur to 1 or 2 does improve overall performance. However, it does not prevent the huge dips that do happen during Monza 66 replays. They are connected to shadow res and world detail for me.
That said, this scenario is really a worst case situation and it might be slightly misguided to optimize for that setting. People who don't care for performance in replays might be better off with more relaxed settings as in-game performance is usually better.
Anyway, this will all change when we have more cars on track...
Do what you can to crank the AA up to 8x, man. It really makes a difference over 4x.
I run MSAA at 8x and the FXAA at 2x with a GTX670. You say the motion blur isn't hurting your performance, but it made a pretty damn severe difference for me. It nearly halved my fps just at 5!
I run MSAA at 8x and the FXAA at 2x with a GTX670. You say the motion blur isn't hurting your performance, but it made a pretty damn severe difference for me. It nearly halved my fps just at 5!
Windom Earle
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Unlike you I'm running V-Sync, so I have to compromize a bit more. In the end I am ok with 4x and a perfect 60.
And yes, motion blur does make quite a difference on average framerate, but it is not the setting that causes huge random dips during some replays. I hope this will be ironed out at some point.
Ive been using this unofficial leaderboard plugin, makes racing more interesting, Try it out guys.
http://www.radiators-champ.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=5&task=view.download&catid=17&cid=118
http://www.radiators-champ.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=5&task=view.download&catid=17&cid=118
Fair enough man!
I saw this and was kinda interested. If more people here got on, it could be pretty cool. I'll download it. I am Seanspeed99 on Steam if anybody wants to look me up or keep an eye out. Also I could use some Steam friends anyways, if anybody wants to add me on Steam.
Hopefully they'll have some official leaderboards pretty soon.
EDIT: Live Timing app works pretty good!
And I give up on Monza. I cant do it. I'm finding it impossible to keep my car in a straight line under heavy braking. It just bounces around everywhere and I'm often over to the other side of the track when I need to start turning in. Which is another huge problem. I cant get the car settled to turn-in. Especially going into Ascari, I spin out more than half the time because I cant get the car calmed down and ready to turn. Its impossible for me. I can brake real early and tiptoe through the corner, but that's no good when I'm trying to do decent lap times and attack the corners. I could *never* race like this because I'd be spinning out and crashing into others all over the place.
Not sure what to do about this. I suppose I can try raising the ride height and soften the dampening a bit to get it a bit more calm over the bumps during heavy braking, but I'm not sure that's gonna be enough.
Has this been posted?
Helicopter lap of Mugello
Pretty cool. Wonder if it'll make it into the final game?
Helicopter lap of Mugello
Pretty cool. Wonder if it'll make it into the final game?
Love the new cars, with the exception of the F40 - but I'll be attempting to tackle it again when my G27 arrives next week. Have to say though, the 458 might be my new favorite since the update added the stage 3 upgrade which lops off a couple hundred lbs and improves the suspension/ride-height. Very nimble. Feels much more like a track car now. The reduced weight is very obvious.
Do you guys playing with controllers use auto throttle-blip? I've been doing it manually in anticipation of my new setup but it's definitely not ideal on a controller. If anyone is using manual clutch + blip, how do you map clutch and shift?
Do you guys playing with controllers use auto throttle-blip? I've been doing it manually in anticipation of my new setup but it's definitely not ideal on a controller. If anyone is using manual clutch + blip, how do you map clutch and shift?
I like the road effects normally, though. Its just Monza. The braking zones are so damn bumpy. I got some slight improvements by adjusting ride height and the differential, but I'm still finding it pretty close to impossible to manage consistently.
Oooh yea, the 458 handles like a dream with the upgrade.
BUT, it comes with super ridiculous lock problems that I have with a few other cars. Around Vallelunga, the tighter corners in the 2nd half of the lap are pretty close to impossible to get around without crawling to a fucking halt.
This is seriously annoying and needs fixing badly because it renders certain car+track combinations impossible to drive properly with a controller. I can up the steering sensitivity a notch to get rid of the problem, but then everything becomes far too twitchy for me.
And yes, I use the auto-blip with a controller. Is there even a way to map a clutch button? :/
I'll have a go with that. Haven't even messed around with different tires on anything yet.
The 458 also has default street tyres and optional slicks in S1 setup. Slicks make it handle noticeably better. The S3 has better suspension and weight reduction along with better tyres.
Definately check the tyre selection before trying cars out because the stock option can be a bit awful.
Definately check the tyre selection before trying cars out because the stock option can be a bit awful.
TJP
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A tonne of tips and ideas from SimHQ Motorsports: http://simhqmotorsports.com/assetto-corsa-hints-tips-part-1/
I didn't mess with any setup changes until now, except for the tires and they make a huge difference, they really show how overpowered those supercars are for street tires. You can also test the s3 version of the F40 it's insane but the modern semi slick tires make it stick way more (until it doesn't.....) and the turbo lag is less pronounced in that version. But still 600+ HP and 700+ NM in a 1150 kg car is just scary.
TJP
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Spotted on the pCARS forum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GVdE4Z6ELA Apparently it's very easy to add AI into AC right now but people aren't saying how at the moment; a picture of a mixed grid of cars was posted on the pCARS forum too which I can't link to here. Edit: a quick browse of the Race Department website reveals they have instructions on how to do this already...hardly big news 8)
Edit #2: it works:
Assetto Corsa will remain at 10% off the 'normal' early access price for the remainder of the Steam sale according to Stefano on Twitter.
Edit #2: it works:
Assetto Corsa will remain at 10% off the 'normal' early access price for the remainder of the Steam sale according to Stefano on Twitter.
Windom Earle
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flyinpiranha
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What a beautiful game. I drove the 458 a bit, then switched to the Indy car. So fun.
I turned off all assists, Traction Control at 70% and Throttle Blip on (what is this?). Can't remember other settings.
I hadn't used my Fanatec GT2 w CS Pedals for a PC racer so it took a while to setup properly, installing drivers and all that. Had to daisy chain my keyboard to the wheel because I used HDMI out to my 60" HDTV to play. But got it working!
Can't wait for more. I use a BT keyboard at my side but unfortunately had to daisy chain my mouse (can't find my wireless) so eventually I'll get a 25' USB cord and a wireless mouse, and I'll be good to go.
Lot of work to get going ... but totally worth it.
I turned off all assists, Traction Control at 70% and Throttle Blip on (what is this?). Can't remember other settings.
I hadn't used my Fanatec GT2 w CS Pedals for a PC racer so it took a while to setup properly, installing drivers and all that. Had to daisy chain my keyboard to the wheel because I used HDMI out to my 60" HDTV to play. But got it working!
Can't wait for more. I use a BT keyboard at my side but unfortunately had to daisy chain my mouse (can't find my wireless) so eventually I'll get a 25' USB cord and a wireless mouse, and I'll be good to go.
Lot of work to get going ... but totally worth it.
marvelharvey
Member
Another way of saying 'heel and toe'. Basically revving the engine slightly on a down change to match the revs with the slowing speed.
600hp in the upgade, too? Damn.
Oh shit! How is it? I don't want to try this out if its really bad at the moment.
I would guess a new manufacturer license.
There's no right answer. Just tradeoffs between what looks 'right' from an accuracy standpoint, sense of speed and visibility.
Personally, I'm all too happy to sacrifice realism for visibility and sense of speed. But then again, thats why I mainly drive in hood view!
Big Takeover
Member
Use an FoV calculator like this one.
There are three boxes that say "side". The left one and right one are the distance from your eyes to the left and right side of your monitor (viewable sides). The bottom "side" is the viewable height of your monitor. Hit compute and the angle number at the top of the triangle is your vertical FoV, which is what AC uses (as opposed to horizontal FoV).
It's going to be lower than what you have it. If it's too low for your own comfort, I suggest tweaking it a little bit, but to stray too far (+/- 10 maybe).
Give a watch to this if you want a good explanation.
Whoa! I can't wait to give it a try!
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Just a couple of quick questions:
Is there any way to disable the HUD?
And more importantly: every time I try and lower my resolution below 1080p to squeeze out more fps, the game runs in a box, as if it doesn't scale up. I don't have the best rig by a long shot so I'd prefer to keep it @ 900p to hit a solid 60fps with effects etc. but I won't unless I can get full screen.
Lastly, the game controls really, really incredibly. I say this using only the 360 controller (I used one of the recommended settings from this thread).
Is there any way to disable the HUD?
And more importantly: every time I try and lower my resolution below 1080p to squeeze out more fps, the game runs in a box, as if it doesn't scale up. I don't have the best rig by a long shot so I'd prefer to keep it @ 900p to hit a solid 60fps with effects etc. but I won't unless I can get full screen.
Lastly, the game controls really, really incredibly. I say this using only the 360 controller (I used one of the recommended settings from this thread).
so steam just downloaded a patch for this game. any idea on what they added or changed?
edit: nvm. nothing much
0.4.1
- Fixed rear ARB setup screen for BMW M3 E30 Group A
- Modified FFB values for F40 (fixes steer oscillation on straight line)
- Fixed hotlap penalties
- Fixed steam interface interaction with mouse hiding
- Fixed Drag Race car moving ahead on restart
- Fixed crash after loading car for players with long nickNames
edit: nvm. nothing much
0.4.1
- Fixed rear ARB setup screen for BMW M3 E30 Group A
- Modified FFB values for F40 (fixes steer oscillation on straight line)
- Fixed hotlap penalties
- Fixed steam interface interaction with mouse hiding
- Fixed Drag Race car moving ahead on restart
- Fixed crash after loading car for players with long nickNames