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Zaptruder

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Be pragmatic. Not idealistic. Don't miss the forest for the trees. in this case you would be incredibly dumb to leave daughter and mother/partner because of baptism. Just indoctrinate her as a humanist and free thinker step by step. And then have faith in the capacity of your child to figure it out.
 
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Mal'ice

Neo Member
fifasnipe2224 said:
UPDATE
I just left from my GF house. Things went better then expected. her mom said hello to me in a sad but meaningful way. i went straight to my little girls room and held herfor about for about 20 minutes with my GF just watching me. Its not an easy moment for me since yesterday morning was the last time I saw her AND last night was the first night i was without her for the night. My GF started by saying how she was lonely being in front of church alone while all other children were being presented with both parents. I made it clear that my daughter should not have been up their in the first place. maybe later on.... maybe not at all, but definitely not with out my approval. She then went on to say my mom misses me, she loves me and she wanted me home. i have no real issue with my mom at this point. My problem is with my GF and my father.... and partially with my GF's family. I then simply asked her "it does not matter the location or the reason... but do you think its ok for you or me to take our daughter to a place that the other parent made it clear not to take her? Is ok for you to take Ashley to a place I said not too? OR for me to take her to a place you did not want her to be at??" She said NO, its not ok.

She was asking me to stay the night but I told her i cant see my self bing with her, at least no time soon.

She then asked what i wanted, I said I wanted SEVERAL apologies, I got most of the ones I asked for but not the major one. Sorry for taking our daughter to the 40 day introduction without your approval. She said she would never apologias. So I place Ashley in her basent, took a picture, went to go grab a few more blankets and left.

Her mom stopped me to say a few nice words especially stating how she never got involded or stated any opinions UNLESS MY GF ASKED FOR THEM.

I know received a txt from my GF saying she is sorry for taking our daughter to the church with out my approval. i told her a txt apology wont cut it. And here wer my demands (1) a 2 page paper 1st page on why its not ok t take our daughter to a place the other parent does not approve and the 2nd page on the pros to Asheley choosing her own religion at the correct age and (2) a promises that we will have a mitior real honest conversation about if, when, and how Asheley will be baptized and how and if religion will play a roll in her life.

I know I am cutting it close on this one but i know what is best formy girl and I know how to threw to my GF.

I am at a libery right now guys and it closes in 5 mins. i rushed this so sorry for poortyping and grammer. i will update when i can.
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Wow.
Honestly, you should leave your GF and your Daughter, they will be better off without you.
 
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wsoxfan1214

Banned
You are so fucking childish.

You always have to "win" everything, like I said before. Grow a pair and grow the fuck up, or leave your daughter and GF alone for their sake.
 
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Horseticuffs

Full werewolf off the buckle
Man, wtf? This is nuttier than squirrel shit.

Do you ever foresee a day when Ashley will be all like "Hey Jim, good on you for sticking to your guns!"?

Nobody with any sense would ever choose to be a weekend dad!
 
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Lionel Mandrake

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fifasnipe2224 said:
UPDATE
I just left from my GF house. Things went better then expected. her mom said hello to me in a sad but meaningful way. i went straight to my little girls room and held herfor about for about 20 minutes with my GF just watching me. Its not an easy moment for me since yesterday morning was the last time I saw her AND last night was the first night i was without her for the night. My GF started by saying how she was lonely being in front of church alone while all other children were being presented with both parents. I made it clear that my daughter should not have been up their in the first place. maybe later on.... maybe not at all, but definitely not with out my approval. She then went on to say my mom misses me, she loves me and she wanted me home. i have no real issue with my mom at this point. My problem is with my GF and my father.... and partially with my GF's family. I then simply asked her "it does not matter the location or the reason... but do you think its ok for you or me to take our daughter to a place that the other parent made it clear not to take her? Is ok for you to take Ashley to a place I said not too? OR for me to take her to a place you did not want her to be at??" She said NO, its not ok.

She was asking me to stay the night but I told her i cant see my self bing with her, at least no time soon.

She then asked what i wanted, I said I wanted SEVERAL apologies, I got most of the ones I asked for but not the major one. Sorry for taking our daughter to the 40 day introduction without your approval. She said she would never apologias. So I place Ashley in her basent, took a picture, went to go grab a few more blankets and left.

Her mom stopped me to say a few nice words especially stating how she never got involded or stated any opinions UNLESS MY GF ASKED FOR THEM.

I know received a txt from my GF saying she is sorry for taking our daughter to the church with out my approval. i told her a txt apology wont cut it. And here wer my demands (1) a 2 page paper 1st page on why its not ok t take our daughter to a place the other parent does not approve and the 2nd page on the pros to Asheley choosing her own religion at the correct age and (2) a promises that we will have a mitior real honest conversation about if, when, and how Asheley will be baptized and how and if religion will play a roll in her life.

I know I am cutting it close on this one but i know what is best formy girl and I know how to threw to my GF.

I am at a libery right now guys and it closes in 5 mins. i rushed this so sorry for poortyping and grammer. i will update when i can.
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SquiddyCracker

Banned
fifasnipe2224 said:
UPDATE
I just left from my GF house. Things went better then expected. her mom said hello to me in a sad but meaningful way. i went straight to my little girls room and held herfor about for about 20 minutes with my GF just watching me. Its not an easy moment for me since yesterday morning was the last time I saw her AND last night was the first night i was without her for the night. My GF started by saying how she was lonely being in front of church alone while all other children were being presented with both parents. I made it clear that my daughter should not have been up their in the first place. maybe later on.... maybe not at all, but definitely not with out my approval. She then went on to say my mom misses me, she loves me and she wanted me home. i have no real issue with my mom at this point. My problem is with my GF and my father.... and partially with my GF's family. I then simply asked her "it does not matter the location or the reason... but do you think its ok for you or me to take our daughter to a place that the other parent made it clear not to take her? Is ok for you to take Ashley to a place I said not too? OR for me to take her to a place you did not want her to be at??" She said NO, its not ok.

She was asking me to stay the night but I told her i cant see my self bing with her, at least no time soon.

She then asked what i wanted, I said I wanted SEVERAL apologies, I got most of the ones I asked for but not the major one. Sorry for taking our daughter to the 40 day introduction without your approval. She said she would never apologias. So I place Ashley in her basent, took a picture, went to go grab a few more blankets and left.

Her mom stopped me to say a few nice words especially stating how she never got involded or stated any opinions UNLESS MY GF ASKED FOR THEM.

I know received a txt from my GF saying she is sorry for taking our daughter to the church with out my approval. i told her a txt apology wont cut it. And here wer my demands (1) a 2 page paper 1st page on why its not ok t take our daughter to a place the other parent does not approve and the 2nd page on the pros to Asheley choosing her own religion at the correct age and (2) a promises that we will have a mitior real honest conversation about if, when, and how Asheley will be baptized and how and if religion will play a roll in her life.

I know I am cutting it close on this one but i know what is best formy girl and I know how to threw to my GF.

I am at a libery right now guys and it closes in 5 mins. i rushed this so sorry for poortyping and grammer. i will update when i can.
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I'm sorry but you strike me as really immature.
Just answer me this:

Are you under or above the age of 20?

Regardless, it kinda looks like you got what you wanted from being persistent. So congratulations to you.
Just try to make her believe in Santa clause, and leave it to her to discover that he doesn't exist - there is no better way of turning a child into a proper sceptic than that method.
 
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I NEED SCISSORS

Banned
8 months... I think I can count one memory I have retained from that age, and it was being stung by a bee. The child won't remember this at all, so why make such a huge fuss over it? If religious issues are more neutral between the two of you parents going forward (which by the sounds of things it will be), it shouldn't matter. Who knows, it could even be fun - apparently my christening was by a bald Swedish guy, with a talking parrot in attendance, in Middlesex (lolol).
 
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saunderez

Member
Wow.....as an atheist who was raised Christian all I can say is what an overreaction. It's totally possible for someone who attends Church every Sunday to come to an informed decision later in life to become an atheist. That's exactly what happened to me, I went to Sunday School until I was in High School. Isolating yourself from your daughter like you are going to do isn't going to turn out the way you're imagining it.
 
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jb1234

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SquiddyBiscuit said:
I'm sorry but you strike me as really immature.
Just answer me this:

Are you under or above the age of 20?
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I'd say under 20 but I've known some damned mature people under 20s and some terribly immature people over the age of 30. Stupidity doesn't care about age.
 
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Sanky Panky

Banned
Yeah OP you are being like a little insecure kid. It strikes me as if you have other issues in your life that you need to sort out.

Sucks for your gf and daughter that they have to put up with your bullshit.
 
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DrPirate

Banned
saunderez said:
Wow.....as an atheist who was raised Christian all I can say is what an overreaction. It's totally possible for someone who attends Church every Sunday to come to an informed decision later in life to become an atheist. That's exactly what happened to me. Isolating yourself from your daughter like you are going to do isn't going to turn out the way you're imagining it.
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This sentiment is continually being expressed in this thread. I and so many others have gone through ALL the motions.

Hell, I'm still probably going to get married in a church!

Doesn't bother me, or anyone in the least...
 
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ronito

Member
fifasnipe2224 said:
UPDATE
I just left from my GF house. Things went better then expected. her mom said hello to me in a sad but meaningful way. i went straight to my little girls room and held herfor about for about 20 minutes with my GF just watching me. Its not an easy moment for me since yesterday morning was the last time I saw her AND last night was the first night i was without her for the night. My GF started by saying how she was lonely being in front of church alone while all other children were being presented with both parents. I made it clear that my daughter should not have been up their in the first place. maybe later on.... maybe not at all, but definitely not with out my approval. She then went on to say my mom misses me, she loves me and she wanted me home. i have no real issue with my mom at this point. My problem is with my GF and my father.... and partially with my GF's family. I then simply asked her "it does not matter the location or the reason... but do you think its ok for you or me to take our daughter to a place that the other parent made it clear not to take her? Is ok for you to take Ashley to a place I said not too? OR for me to take her to a place you did not want her to be at??" She said NO, its not ok.

She was asking me to stay the night but I told her i cant see my self bing with her, at least no time soon.

She then asked what i wanted, I said I wanted SEVERAL apologies, I got most of the ones I asked for but not the major one. Sorry for taking our daughter to the 40 day introduction without your approval. She said she would never apologias. So I place Ashley in her basent, took a picture, went to go grab a few more blankets and left.

Her mom stopped me to say a few nice words especially stating how she never got involded or stated any opinions UNLESS MY GF ASKED FOR THEM.

I know received a txt from my GF saying she is sorry for taking our daughter to the church with out my approval. i told her a txt apology wont cut it. And here wer my demands (1) a 2 page paper 1st page on why its not ok t take our daughter to a place the other parent does not approve and the 2nd page on the pros to Asheley choosing her own religion at the correct age and (2) a promises that we will have a mitior real honest conversation about if, when, and how Asheley will be baptized and how and if religion will play a roll in her life.

I know I am cutting it close on this one but i know what is best formy girl and I know how to threw to my GF.

I am at a libery right now guys and it closes in 5 mins. i rushed this so sorry for poortyping and grammer. i will update when i can.
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who the? what the? just the? a paper? what? how can you treat someone you "love"? like...I just can't understand. What? WHAT?!
 
Oppo

Oppo

Member
Ok now he's being a dick.

OP, I've been sort of defending your POV up to this point, but its time to sack up and move past it. You're being ridiculously petty.
 
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jett

D-Member
I can't see how Atheist GAF, or anyone at GAF for that matter can help you with your situation. Man, it's a clusterfuck. If I were you, I'd just grovel back to your girlfriend and fucking forget about it. :lol If your daughter is raised smart then she will realize well enough the bullshit that is organized religion later in life. Religion in her early years isn't going to ruin her, getting baptized is frankly meaningless. There's no need to be militant about atheism.
 
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BronsonLee

Member
This is basically a troll thread now. Nobody can be this goddamn stupid.

And yes, OP, you are acting like a moron right now. They wanted you back in their life, and your response was to give her freaking homework.
 
oneils

oneils

Member
You were doing good...until the paper. Wow. I think you have serious control issues. I don't believe that your long rambling OP has anything to do with faith anymore. It is all about control.

Good luck to you and your family.

BTW - Dice, Log4Girlz, ThoseDeafMutes, Angry Fork, Kinitari - it is like a veil has been lifted from my face and I have seen you posting for the first time. You guys are awesome. Where have you been all this time? I have to frequent the Atheist/Theist threads more often.
 
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Xzeon

Banned
fifasnipe2224 said:
UPDATE
I just left from my GF house. Things went better then expected. her mom said hello to me in a sad but meaningful way. i went straight to my little girls room and held herfor about for about 20 minutes with my GF just watching me. Its not an easy moment for me since yesterday morning was the last time I saw her AND last night was the first night i was without her for the night. My GF started by saying how she was lonely being in front of church alone while all other children were being presented with both parents. I made it clear that my daughter should not have been up their in the first place. maybe later on.... maybe not at all, but definitely not with out my approval. She then went on to say my mom misses me, she loves me and she wanted me home. i have no real issue with my mom at this point. My problem is with my GF and my father.... and partially with my GF's family. I then simply asked her "it does not matter the location or the reason... but do you think its ok for you or me to take our daughter to a place that the other parent made it clear not to take her? Is ok for you to take Ashley to a place I said not too? OR for me to take her to a place you did not want her to be at??" She said NO, its not ok.

She was asking me to stay the night but I told her i cant see my self bing with her, at least no time soon.

She then asked what i wanted, I said I wanted SEVERAL apologies, I got most of the ones I asked for but not the major one. Sorry for taking our daughter to the 40 day introduction without your approval. She said she would never apologias. So I place Ashley in her basent, took a picture, went to go grab a few more blankets and left.

Her mom stopped me to say a few nice words especially stating how she never got involded or stated any opinions UNLESS MY GF ASKED FOR THEM.

I know received a txt from my GF saying she is sorry for taking our daughter to the church with out my approval. i told her a txt apology wont cut it. And here wer my demands (1) a 2 page paper 1st page on why its not ok t take our daughter to a place the other parent does not approve and the 2nd page on the pros to Asheley choosing her own religion at the correct age and (2) a promises that we will have a mitior real honest conversation about if, when, and how Asheley will be baptized and how and if religion will play a roll in her life.

I know I am cutting it close on this one but i know what is best formy girl and I know how to threw to my GF.

I am at a libery right now guys and it closes in 5 mins. i rushed this so sorry for poortyping and grammer. i will update when i can.
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dude... dude.

what the fuck.

i was with you through p much the entire thread, but this, no, this is just disturbing.

Your girlfriend sounds like a manipulative bitch and you sound like a crazy person.

cant wait to see how this thread ends.
 
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jett

D-Member
fifasnipe2224 said:
UPDATE
I just left from my GF house. Things went better then expected. her mom said hello to me in a sad but meaningful way. i went straight to my little girls room and held herfor about for about 20 minutes with my GF just watching me. Its not an easy moment for me since yesterday morning was the last time I saw her AND last night was the first night i was without her for the night. My GF started by saying how she was lonely being in front of church alone while all other children were being presented with both parents. I made it clear that my daughter should not have been up their in the first place. maybe later on.... maybe not at all, but definitely not with out my approval. She then went on to say my mom misses me, she loves me and she wanted me home. i have no real issue with my mom at this point. My problem is with my GF and my father.... and partially with my GF's family. I then simply asked her "it does not matter the location or the reason... but do you think its ok for you or me to take our daughter to a place that the other parent made it clear not to take her? Is ok for you to take Ashley to a place I said not too? OR for me to take her to a place you did not want her to be at??" She said NO, its not ok.

She was asking me to stay the night but I told her i cant see my self bing with her, at least no time soon.

She then asked what i wanted, I said I wanted SEVERAL apologies, I got most of the ones I asked for but not the major one. Sorry for taking our daughter to the 40 day introduction without your approval. She said she would never apologias. So I place Ashley in her basent, took a picture, went to go grab a few more blankets and left.

Her mom stopped me to say a few nice words especially stating how she never got involded or stated any opinions UNLESS MY GF ASKED FOR THEM.

I know received a txt from my GF saying she is sorry for taking our daughter to the church with out my approval. i told her a txt apology wont cut it. And here wer my demands (1) a 2 page paper 1st page on why its not ok t take our daughter to a place the other parent does not approve and the 2nd page on the pros to Asheley choosing her own religion at the correct age and (2) a promises that we will have a mitior real honest conversation about if, when, and how Asheley will be baptized and how and if religion will play a roll in her life.

I know I am cutting it close on this one but i know what is best formy girl and I know how to threw to my GF.

I am at a libery right now guys and it closes in 5 mins. i rushed this so sorry for poortyping and grammer. i will update when i can.
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Wow, you're a douchebag. Your girlfriend and your daughter are better off without you.
 
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echoshifting

Banned
I can't believe anyone here actually thinks a real adult person would assign an apology essay to another real adult person...to the mother of his child. Sitcom shit doesn't happen in real life. This went off the rails with that update.

I'm sorry, but I'm a dad and I absolutely do not buy that another dad would jeopardize his relationship with his child with such inane bullshit...someone who claims to love her sooooo much he would....sacrifice shared custody, or something (lol?). There are shitty dads and then there's this.
 
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jett

D-Member
echoshifting said:
I can't believe anyone here actually thinks a real adult person would assign an apology essay to another real adult person...to the mother of his child. Sitcom shit doesn't happen in real life. This went off the rails with that update.

I'm sorry, but I'm a dad and I absolutely do not buy that another dad would jeopardize his relationship with his child with such inane bullshit. There are shitty dads and then there's this.
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Yeah this is looking like a troll.
 
oneils

oneils

Member
echoshifting said:
I can't believe anyone here actually thinks a real adult person would assign an apology essay to another real adult person...to the mother of his child. Sitcom shit doesn't happen in real life. This went off the rails with that update.

I'm sorry, but I'm a dad and I absolutely do not buy that another dad would jeopardize his relationship with his child with such inane bullshit. There are shitty dads and then there's this.
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So Fifasnipe is a better troll than Lord-Audie? If so, I bow before him.
 
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fifasnipe2224

Member
Troll thread... no. Bad idea, sadly most likely true. But it seems to be somewhat working. The point is, I am tired of being told one thing and the next day or two later she changes her mind.
Also she refuses to do any research on the pros of atheism and the cons to her religion. most of her ideas about religion come from her family or he imagination (like i said she only believes in a few things told at church.) This way it I have her actually doing a bit of research (unlikely I know) but I can have some proof that she is looking at things from my point of view.
She admits she was wrong but a simply sorry will not cut it this time (lying to my face, getting me and my dad in a massive fight, taking my daughter to a place with out my permission, ect.)
 
Enosh

Enosh

Member
fifasnipe2224 said:
I know received a txt from my GF saying she is sorry for taking our daughter to the church with out my approval. i told her a txt apology wont cut it. And here wer my demands (1) a 2 page paper 1st page on why its not ok t take our daughter to a place the other parent does not approve and the 2nd page on the pros to Asheley choosing her own religion at the correct age and (2) a promises that we will have a mitior real honest conversation about if, when, and how Asheley will be baptized and how and if religion will play a roll in her life.
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are you being for real or just trolling?
because I simply can't believe someone would demand of their GF to write a god damn essay about how she is sorry

-go to her
-say you are sorry for being a massive dick
-let her baptize the child and partake in all the community activities that come with that
 
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Horseticuffs

Full werewolf off the buckle
I didn't want to come across as a prick but it really is hard to believe that a real person would make all these bad decisions.

But I was a kid once and married the first real girlfriend I ever had. Hung on through over a decade of Hell before it finally collapsed.

I mean it from the bottom of my heart, gaf, I wish I'd have had a gang like you to help me out like this so long ago.

But then again, I wouldn't have my kids if gaf had talked some sense to me. I hope this youngblood doesn't cock up his chances to be a dad.
 
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wsoxfan1214

Banned
fifasnipe2224 said:
Troll thread... no. Bad idea, sadly most likely true. But it seems to be somewhat working. The point is, I am tired of being told one thing and the next day or two later she changes her mind.
Also she refuses to do any research on the pros of atheism and the cons to her religion. most of her ideas about religion come from her family or he imagination (like i said she only believes in a few things told at church.) This way it I have her actually doing a bit of research (unlikely I know) but I can have some proof that she is looking at things from my point of view.
She admits she was wrong but a simply sorry will not cut it this time (lying to my face, getting me and my dad in a massive fight, taking my daughter to a place with out my permission, ect.)
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No, you're being an asshole and you're jeopardizing your relationship with your daughter for a fucking apology. Stop avoiding the questions about your age. I sure as hell hope it's not over 20.
 
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