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August Wrasslin |OT2| Sting in 2015
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2K16 Lesnar entrance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cJsK1pyu6Y
holy fucking shit I think they ripped the smoke effect straight outta Blood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cJsK1pyu6Y
holy fucking shit I think they ripped the smoke effect straight outta Blood.
That is one weird looking Brock...
Vince would've buried him to the ground for refusing to give up his title
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Deleted member 47027
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The Attitude Era had no room for him. He would have needed to reinvent himself somehow. I don't know if he could have.
He would have had Austin go over him at Mania 14 and he probably wouldn't have gotten kicked by Goldberg.
Its hard to tell because so much changed because of his departure.
I'm going to change this up a little and turn it into "what if HBK left for WCW instead of Bret"
- Shawn joins the nWo
- Shawn never gets his back hurt against Undertaker
- Shawn never gets the 4 year break from wrestling that changes his life
- Bret stays champ in WWF
- Bret vs Austin main events WrestleMania 14 and ends the Bret/Austin feud
- Owen Hart likely doesn't get stuck in the Blue Blazer gimmick
- Owen Hart is likely still alive today
- Bret Hart never gets concussed by Goldberg
- Bret Hart potentially never has his stroke
- Bret Hart goes on to have a long historic WWF/WWE career likely
- We never suffer through Bret vs Vince at WrestleMania
- Instead of Taker vs HBK for The Streak we get Taker vs Bret
¡HarlequinPanic!
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bret wouldn't have fit in the attitude era, he probably would've been destined for a mid-card fued with DX HHH :\ Maybe they still could've gone with evil mr. mcmahon and the story would be he'd have wound up as a reluctant partner to stone cold.
some great rock matches here and there.
Really the better timelines would be if HBK left, or if they actually did the right thing with Sting's writing and did Bret/Sting after sting destroyed Hogan.
some great rock matches here and there.
Really the better timelines would be if HBK left, or if they actually did the right thing with Sting's writing and did Bret/Sting after sting destroyed Hogan.
Sibersk Esto
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Could you imagine Canadian heel Bret hart vs American gold medalist Kurt angle?
¡HarlequinPanic!
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shit I didn't even think about that, man that would've been sick.
least we got a few hart vs. benoit... for those that can still stomach to watch such a thing.
least we got a few hart vs. benoit... for those that can still stomach to watch such a thing.
Bret would have survived the WWF Attitude Era, at least if we assume HBK still gets hurt and has to sit out pretty much the entire Attitude Era
Holy fuck, it would be amazing.
Holy fuck, it would be amazing.
ElectricBlanketFire
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May I suggest a September OT title?
September Wrasslin |OT| How did Seth know she was a Nazi? She talks in her sleep.
September Wrasslin |OT| How did Seth know she was a Nazi? She talks in her sleep.
¡HarlequinPanic!
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If bret made it to the brand split era I could see him being where Flair was when they did the co-owners thing...sorta...I dunno flair was a really good fit for that too.
it's already established that the september thread will be September Wrasslin |OT| DIE BAYLEY/BECKY DIE
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This year's BOLA sounds like the best event of all time.
- Degeneration X doesn't get pushed the way it does.
- Steph doesn't date HHH because they never have that Angle to meet up
- Chyna marries HHH doesn't become a porn star
- HHH never rises in power thus no NXT
- Either WCW wins or we have 2 companies today
- Kliq never has the power to depush guys so Rock may be able to get to his spot faster (Bret was a huge fan of him)
- Hart Foundation becomes the stable we talk about the most after the 4 horseman and NWO.
- Vince McMahon character is never flushed out thus the commentary and product isn't revolved around getting the McMahon family over.
- Mania 16 matchup is Rock vs Bret vs Mick vs Show with Rock going over.
avengers23
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It's uncouth to give someone the Falling Edge Big Boot and then take a selfie. But that's a great shot.
If HBK would have left for WCW instead of Bret, I doubt HBK would be alive today - at best he'd probably be in a Scott Hall situation.
But having said that, the "what if" timeline seems so much better. Also, Fox, the Evolution-era (aka MY FUCKING RATINGS.GIF) era never happens
But having said that, the "what if" timeline seems so much better. Also, Fox, the Evolution-era (aka MY FUCKING RATINGS.GIF) era never happens
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Deleted member 47027
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Impossible to say. There's always a lot of unexpected negatives.
Nah...the wife appreciates the midcarder.
British Monsoon
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Hah, kinda wish WWE'd take Gulak instead of Biff. Can see why they didn't, though. Also, for as charismatic and athletic as Rich Swann is, out of all the US dudes I've seen in the UK he's the only one that made me say "someone actually paid to fly this dude over?".
Bret vs Angle at mania 21?
We might even have had more PPV events and a greater focus of providing content to Canadians than we do today if Bret had stayed on.
Nattie Neidhart never gets the farting gimmick and she and AJ have matches that push women's wrestling to new levels of attention like we do now.
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Gulak needs some time in the WWE machine to get some sort of character that's interesting. Dude is a sleep aid for me. I can't say I've ever enjoyed him and I can't understand why.
Then you don't get the Austin/McMahon feud that was the centerpiece of the Attitude Era making a boom period.
1. DX wouldn't be a huge factor because....
2. HBK would have went to Nitro
3. Austin would have been back to midcarding
4. WWF would have went out of business
Honestly, Bret Hart really played a huge role in the WWF at the time because he represented the past. If Bret would have stayed, it would have held the company back from competing against WCW's reign. HBK would have left due to ongoing issues with Bret and the finances constantly dropping. He probably end up getting called up by Bischoff and the rest would be history.
They were laying the seeds for Austin vs McMahon before the Montreal Screwjob even happened though. I think Austin vs McMahon happens no matter what.
Even if WCW folded they wouldn't have hid Ric Flair because he upstaged the talent.
Plus with HHH out of the picture Rock's WWE contract NEVER expires because HHH isn't envious of his success and they don't have an issue with Rock portraying a gay man in Be Cool.
Orton and Batista would have had their places but I don't think Benoit's push would have been so short lived.
avengers23
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Gulak cut possibly one of the worst promos I've ever heard at Evolve 47. Without the mic skills, I can't see him joining WWE.
Then again, Busick's not exactly known for his mic work either.
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Well, and that's something I would have faith WWE could help him with. But still, without Dusty...I wonder how their promo class goes now.
Austin was building up steam with the Bret feud. Him taking down Bret at mania would have had the same effect as long as Tyson was around.
British Monsoon
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I only ever enjoy him against other grapple dudes, Sabre, Biff, Thatcher, etc - whereas Biff is miles better, he doesn't have much character, but he looks and wrestles mean and that goes a long way.
That was more general anti-authority stuff for Austin. Vince wasn't played as "Mr. McMahon" then, not until they channeled the backlash from the Screwjob into his on-screen character. Even then he was a lot more meek and passive on screen until a bit after WM 14.
Nash, Hall, HBK, Waltman, and possibly HHH would have all been booking.
HHH hated Eric but if he could have had a seat of power he would have grabbed it.
I think the Mr McMahon character happens anyways, maybe just not as immediately.
Yeah, WCW wouldn't have made it to 2000 in that scenario
slightconfuse
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Biff Rules
Honestly its why the character worked and HHH doesn't. Vince was a businessman who was hiding behind other wrestlers. HHH is a former world champ who dons a suit and is still booked like Warrior.
FallingEdge
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They did along with a World of Sport chant. The match went at least for 35 min.
Out of the Euro guys outside of Sabre, Marty has to be my favorite. His entrance is awesome and I love his character. Tommy End is no joke either. Fuck it. They are all great. Do they all wrestle in PROGRESS?
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EDIT: quite late
It's a stupid fucking gamefaqs topic, that's reason enough
FallingEdge
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They are different heads so it is all good.
avengers23
Banned
I think the Voices of Wrestling reviews of Gulak's matches is where "GrappleFuck" was born, and you can see why. Thatcher, Sabre, Busick, and End, for example, have an intensity in their grappling that Gulak doesn't, and each of them has strikes to kick the match into higher gear that Gulak doesn't.
British Monsoon
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Yeah, all the Euro dudes who were at BOLA wrestle in PROGRESS, except for Drew who's with ICW and Mandrews who hasn't been in PROGRESS since signing for TNA. Tommy's fucking amazing, he's one half of the tag champions at the moment, while Ospreay's the current PROGRESS champion.
If you haven't seen much PROGRESS before, I'd definitely recommend their streaming service;
demandprogress.pivotshare.com
The SSS16 tournament from earlier this year was just awesome.
avengers23
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Biff is the real MVP of Back to the Future