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AusPoliGAF |OT| Boats? What Boats?

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wonzo

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It's sad that things like that happen. You would think that if the party you give your number 1 vote to doesn't make it in, then your preference would flow to the party that has the most in common with them. So in what way are the Liberals more kind to animals than the Greens ( or even Labor)?
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/preferences-vital-for-second-seat-20130906-2tb1z.html
It has put the Greens last in retaliation against ACT Greens MLA Shane Rattenbury, the Minister for Territory and Municipal Services, who authorised the cull of about 1450 kangaroos recently to protect rare grasslands from overgrazing.
They sound like complete morons.
 

Poona

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Interesting. Greens must be splintered in some areas, as I'm familar with Greg Barber (one of the elected Greens in Victorian Parliament) recently helping put a stop to a proposed kangaroo cull, and Bob Brown has fought for a number of wildlife issues over the years.

Anyway outside of that I can't see how the Libs would have done anything better for animals, be it wildlife issues or things like live export,etc so AJP screwed themselves on that issue. Oh well hopefully they'll learn for next time much like the Liberals did when they helped get Steve Fielding (Family First) elected.
 

lexi

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Interesting. Greens must be splintered in some areas, as I'm familar with Greg Barber (one of the elected Greens in Victorian Parliament) recently helping put a stop to a proposed kangaroo cull, and Bob Brown has fought for a number of wildlife issues over the years.

Anyway outside of that I can't see how the Libs would have done anything better for animals, be it wildlife issues or things like live export,etc so AJP screwed themselves on that issue. Oh well hopefully they'll learn for next time much like the Liberals did when they helped get Steve Fielding (Family First) elected.

Well the greens care about the rare grasslands, right?
 

Jintor

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lol
 
As someone from Canberra, there are some areas around here where the Kangaroo population is completely out of control. If I'm driving at night in my local suburb I have to very careful as they are bouncing everywhere.

Interestingly, they biggest opponent of the cull apart from the Animal Lib Front, were the local smash repair shops. Less Kangaroos means less business from all the collisions. I'm not sure whether to be disgusted or just completely bemused.
 
Praying for Albo, if those fuckers elect Shorten then the ALP will be fucked for two terms atleast. The Coalition could just run ads painting him as a literal faceless man with Rudd and Gillard's blood on his hands.

WOULD AUSTRALIA ELECT THE FACELESS MAN? VOTE ABBOTT 2016!
 

zbeeb

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Praying for Albo, if those fuckers elect Shorten then the ALP will be fucked for two terms atleast. The Coalition could just run ads painting him as a literal faceless man with Rudd and Gillard's blood on his hands.

WOULD AUSTRALIA ELECT THE FACELESS MAN? VOTE ABBOTT 2016!

So what you're saying is.... It'll shorten the odds for a liberal win?

:D
 
Praying for Albo, if those fuckers elect Shorten then the ALP will be fucked for two terms atleast. The Coalition could just run ads painting him as a literal faceless man with Rudd and Gillard's blood on his hands.

I like the way "Shorten is unelectable" when Abbott is the prime minister. If he is doing a decent job nobody would really care what he has done before.
 
I like the way "Shorten is unelectable" when Abbott is the prime minister. If he is doing a decent job nobody would really care what he has done before.

The Liberal Party has also won the election by performing two successful character assassinations of two sitting Prime Ministers. After the clear disclosure of "Shorten's 7" and how he put Rudd back in - a third character assassination is just as easy for the Liberal Party.
 

wonzo

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The Liberal Party has also won the election by performing two successful character assassinations of two sitting Prime Ministers. After the clear disclosure of "Shorten's 7" and how he put Rudd back in - a third character assassination is just as easy for the Liberal Party.
It'll be hard for them to pull of that though now that they're the ones actually governing.
 

Dead Man

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True, it's put up or shut up time for the Libs right now. It'll be plainly obvious if they don't save the country like they're claiming to.

Trouble is is that it doesn't need saving, all they have to do is change their mesageing to take credit for shit that was already done.
 

Salazar

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Trouble is is that it doesn't need saving, all they have to do is change their mesageing to take credit for shit that was already done.

''I want to be an infrastructure prime minister,'' he declared, rattling off a list of road-funding projects across the country, including Melbourne's East-West Link and WestConnex in Sydney that would take shape under a Coalition government. ''I want to get Australia moving again and that means building the roads of the 21st century.''

Labor spend: FOLLY ! EXPLODING PUBLIC DEBT
Liberal spend: NATION BUILDING AHOY
 

bomma_man

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I wouldn't be too worried about a potential Shorten tenure, given that post-election loss opposition leaders' time at the helm tends to be, well, short.
 
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A More Normal Bird

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I wouldn't be too worried about a potential Shorten tenure, given that post-election loss opposition leaders' time at the helm tends to be, well, short.
Given recent political history I'm no longer sure Abbott that.

sorry
 
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A More Normal Bird

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Given the nature of the last election (minority gov) it is probably the exception, along with 1998 (where Beazley got the popular vote). I was thinking more along the line of Brendan Nelson (remember him?).
I was also thinking that the ALP would probably want to stay as far away from any signs of internal power struggles as possible, even in opposition, but mainly I wanted to make that shitty pun. It's obviously too early to tell for certain, but one has to imagine that there will be a few Labor leaders before there's a change of government.
 

Fredescu

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Just to cap off this thread, I'll point out that the majority of the two party preferred polls in the last week were saying 53:47 and the vote (2PP) ended up being 53.1:46.9. So, polls eh?
 

Mr. Tone

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WHO ELECTED RICKY MUIR TO THE SENATE?

You did, if you voted above the line for
Palmer United Party
Sex Party
Family First
WikiLeaks
Rise Up Australia
Shooters and Fishers
DLP
Animal Justice
Help End Marijuana Prohibition
Aust Motoring Enthusiast Party
Aust Fishing and Lifestyle Party
Katter's Australian Party
Aust Independents
Senator on Line
No Carbon Tax Climate Sceptics
Bullet Train for Australia
Drug Law Reform
Stable Population Party
Building Australia Party
Australian Voice
Bank Reform Party
Citizen's Electoral Council
Stop CSG

You didn't, if you voted above the line for
Liberal/The Nationals
Australian Labor Party
The Greens
Australian Christians
Australian Democrats
Country Alliance
Secular Party
Socialist Equality Party
 
WHO ELECTED RICKY MUIR TO THE SENATE?

You did, if you voted above the line for
Palmer United Party
Sex Party
Family First
WikiLeaks
Rise Up Australia
Shooters and Fishers
DLP
Animal Justice
Help End Marijuana Prohibition
Aust Motoring Enthusiast Party
Aust Fishing and Lifestyle Party
Katter's Australian Party
Aust Independents
Senator on Line
No Carbon Tax Climate Sceptics
Bullet Train for Australia
Drug Law Reform
Stable Population Party
Building Australia Party
Australian Voice
Bank Reform Party
Citizen's Electoral Council
Stop CSG

You didn't, if you voted above the line for
Liberal/The Nationals
Australian Labor Party
The Greens
Australian Christians
Australian Democrats
Country Alliance
Secular Party
Socialist Equality Party

Well given you voted in Victoria. If I'd voted for one of those I would have voted for a different muppet. It looks like there's a slim chance that my vote could have gone to them if the Greens got knocked out first in my state (which seems unlikely at best).
 
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