Interficium
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There's fewer used M2s in the States then there are states.
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There's fewer used M2s in the States then there are states.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
There are plenty of new and used cars readily for sale now. 114 on AutoTrader
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for...eSearch=true&fromSIP=uj75FcHXQayTmnmwaZWDQkXC
Interficium
Banned
I didn't say new and used, though.
Also, yeah, there's new cars readily available if you're willing to pay 10k above sticker. I'm not.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
There are new ones at MSRP without any markups.
Interficium
Banned
Not within 500 miles of me.
I might start cross-shopping used 981s. Might be a little too intense to have a Cayman S as my only car though.
Dr.Guru of Peru
played the long game
Can you buy it out of state and have them ship it out to you? Or make a trip of it and pick it up yourself?
If you're keen on the car, its probably worth looking out of state rather than waiting 2 years for an allocation.
Congrats on the beauty 🙌🙌🙌🙌Picked up a Jaguar F-Type R today... Sorry for the crap picture and for it being kind of dirty.
I got it back home around 21:30 from the dealership. I'm gonna wash it in the morning and get some proper shots.
GHG
Member
Picked up a Jaguar F-Type R today... Sorry for the crap picture and for it being kind of dirty.
I got it back home around 21:30 from the dealership. I'm gonna wash it in the morning and get some proper shots.
Congrats, looks gorgeous. At this rate half of auto GAF will have F-types by the end of the year.
Alpha might get his bonus after all.
Fallout-NL
Member
Picked up a Jaguar F-Type R today... Sorry for the crap picture and for it being kind of dirty.
I got it back home around 21:30 from the dealership. I'm gonna wash it in the morning and get some proper shots.
Congratulations! Must be awesome, owning one of the absolute best looking cars of all time.
Congrats!
I would be willing to do that if I got a good deal, but at MSRP, it gets iffy. Like you said though, it depends on if you want the car badly enough.
Picked up a Jaguar F-Type R today... Sorry for the crap picture and for it being kind of dirty.
I got it back home around 21:30 from the dealership. I'm gonna wash it in the morning and get some proper shots.
Congrats, if it's dirty, I can't tell!
Also, anyone catch Le Mans? The duel at the end between the Corvette and Aston Martin was pretty good.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Picked up a Jaguar F-Type R today... Sorry for the crap picture and for it being kind of dirty.
I got it back home around 21:30 from the dealership. I'm gonna wash it in the morning and get some proper shots.
Yes!! You're my new favorite GAFer. Congrats!!
If you ever want to sell your Gyrodyne wheels, give me a shout.
I'm currently looking for a set for my R. The commission checks been looking good. LOL
Speaking of which, I saw a unicorn yesterday, at least for the US. We were getting into the car and I literally stopped in my tracks to gaze at it. My passenger said, why are you gawking at that thing, you're not a fan of US muscle cars. "It's not," I said, as it rumbled past. I swear the driver looked at me grinning, like he knew what my friend's mistake was.
Can you guess what it was? Hint, my friend thought it was an obscure Shelby mustang.
http://i.imgur.com/TbkLWX5.jpg
Small Boxster update: spent a small fortune on a big service (everything from oil to plugs, air filter, etc), new tires (Michelin Pilot Sport) and a modification of the cooling system. It now has the same water pump as a 996 Turbo (and the GT2) and a thermostat that opens a bit sooner. Should prevent some of the thermal spikes these cars sometimes deal with in hot weather / stop go traffic.
3500 euro *cries* but the cool thing is, it does actually drive much better than before.
The Porsche tax is staggering. I would love to own a cayman, but the service cost are eye watering. A major service on my miata is about $300 in parts and a weekend of me working on my car.
.Detective.
Member
Fuck you Alfa Romeo dealerships!
The Giulia model isn't even due into the country with inventory yet until July, and these hoodlums are already listing for 12k over the MSRP, without any of the option packages or taxes included.
For that money, I could get so much more.
It seems crazy because here I am looking at seriously getting the vehicle, and these Ghost town-type dealerships(there are only a handful of Alfa locations in Canada, and they are pretty much abandoned in terms of customers walking in) get so greedy.
The Giulia model isn't even due into the country with inventory yet until July, and these hoodlums are already listing for 12k over the MSRP, without any of the option packages or taxes included.
For that money, I could get so much more.
It seems crazy because here I am looking at seriously getting the vehicle, and these Ghost town-type dealerships(there are only a handful of Alfa locations in Canada, and they are pretty much abandoned in terms of customers walking in) get so greedy.
Aston Martin V8 Vantage from the 1970s?
Picked up a Jaguar F-Type R today... Sorry for the crap picture and for it being kind of dirty.
I got it back home around 21:30 from the dealership. I'm gonna wash it in the morning and get some proper shots.
I love those wheels. Nice pickup
jongkookie
Member
Just had lunch with my Honda buddy...
They're already feeling the heat from the markups. 3 prospective buyers who were at the top of the list have pulled their names off when they found out there was gonna be at least a $5K markup lol.
He wouldn't tell me how many remain on the list nor how much the markup is going to be(they haven't received the car), but he did say management has a plan just in case shit hits the toilet haha.
LMAO.
They're already feeling the heat from the markups. 3 prospective buyers who were at the top of the list have pulled their names off when they found out there was gonna be at least a $5K markup lol.
He wouldn't tell me how many remain on the list nor how much the markup is going to be(they haven't received the car), but he did say management has a plan just in case shit hits the toilet haha.
LMAO.
Fallout-NL
Member
Yup, has to be that.
Purchasing a car. It's a hard decision. I can't seem to find anything that satisfies my picky perfectionist self that's not $50,000 or more. Paying cash. I hate car payments.
I'm coming from a bike and backpack and just want it to be fun if I have to pay for it. Something with 4 wheels and a trunk of any size is overly practical for me.
I've narrowed it down to the following currently, but way open to something else.
1. Mazda Miata
Whether is a soft top or RF I can't decide. I keep going back and forth. Also, not sure about Club or GT. It has to be manual. Leaning towards a Club with the BBS/Brembo.
Local dealer has a Red, Club, RF with Brembo/BBS coming in tomorrow and they also have a Red Soft Top Club with Brembo/BBS. Another dealer has a GT I like with the tan leather and appearance package.
The reason I haven't bought one yet is because of how stupid Mazda neutered the packages and trim levels in the US. No brembo/BBS/LSD/Bilstein on the GT, no leather or other nice things from the GT trim for the Club. Ugh. Canada got the goods, we got screwed I feel. No backup camera or neat tech items for a 2017 such as CarPlay / Android Auto, but those can be forgiven.
I'm also only 5 foot, 4 inch. maybe? And the Miata doesn't have a proper seat height adjustment. I can see over the steering wheel, but an extra half or full inch would be quite sublime. It's on a rail, so the closer the higher. I move it close to get the height, but then my left arm is so bent and my knees hit the steering column. Still pretty fun to drive, but doesn't have that confidence driving feel like if I was just a tad higher up. I don't want to have to get a cushion or something for a new car I'm paying a crap ton of money for.
I'm not modding and will keep the car stock.
2. CPO 2015 Audi TT Roadster
Local dealer has a low mileage lease return bright red TT with Navi, Nappa leather, and S-Line packages. I test drove it yesterday. Almost perfect, since this is the US and it's a 2015, it's still the MK2 version sadly, but for the price I'm not complaining much. Except for the phone/music integration. From what I quickly researched after, it's well, not that great. Maybe worse then even the Miata / Mazda Connect thing. I did miss the manual. First time in a DSG. It was weird. I keep hearing how great it is, so figure I'll figure it out.
I'm coming from a bike and backpack and just want it to be fun if I have to pay for it. Something with 4 wheels and a trunk of any size is overly practical for me.
I've narrowed it down to the following currently, but way open to something else.
1. Mazda Miata
Whether is a soft top or RF I can't decide. I keep going back and forth. Also, not sure about Club or GT. It has to be manual. Leaning towards a Club with the BBS/Brembo.
Local dealer has a Red, Club, RF with Brembo/BBS coming in tomorrow and they also have a Red Soft Top Club with Brembo/BBS. Another dealer has a GT I like with the tan leather and appearance package.
The reason I haven't bought one yet is because of how stupid Mazda neutered the packages and trim levels in the US. No brembo/BBS/LSD/Bilstein on the GT, no leather or other nice things from the GT trim for the Club. Ugh. Canada got the goods, we got screwed I feel. No backup camera or neat tech items for a 2017 such as CarPlay / Android Auto, but those can be forgiven.
I'm also only 5 foot, 4 inch. maybe? And the Miata doesn't have a proper seat height adjustment. I can see over the steering wheel, but an extra half or full inch would be quite sublime. It's on a rail, so the closer the higher. I move it close to get the height, but then my left arm is so bent and my knees hit the steering column. Still pretty fun to drive, but doesn't have that confidence driving feel like if I was just a tad higher up. I don't want to have to get a cushion or something for a new car I'm paying a crap ton of money for.
I'm not modding and will keep the car stock.
2. CPO 2015 Audi TT Roadster
Local dealer has a low mileage lease return bright red TT with Navi, Nappa leather, and S-Line packages. I test drove it yesterday. Almost perfect, since this is the US and it's a 2015, it's still the MK2 version sadly, but for the price I'm not complaining much. Except for the phone/music integration. From what I quickly researched after, it's well, not that great. Maybe worse then even the Miata / Mazda Connect thing. I did miss the manual. First time in a DSG. It was weird. I keep hearing how great it is, so figure I'll figure it out.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Bro... that is fucking gorgeous. Easily one of the absolute best looking cars on the road. Congratulations!
You gonna get on her? You HAVE to if you got the R.
Jag's a beaut!
Congrats. Looks amazing.
Unknown Soldier
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Auto GAF needs a heel. I could be the heel. I could be your Kurt Angle. My music would start playing, I would strut down the ramp, and sound of the crowd yelling "YOU SUCK!" in sync to my music would rain down on me and shake the whole arena.
I got my Model S. Sorry for the bad pictures, it was already getting dark when I found this empty parking lot to take these shots.
Driving this car is a bit ridiculous. There isn't any soulful roaring of exploding dinosaurs in a metal box to let me know I'm accelerating. I just floor it and I'm at 100 mph with nothing but the sound of the tires on the road and a subtle whine from the electric motors as they are fed many electrons. This isn't even the P90D, although the Ludicrous is really only for launching from a standing start, at cruising speeds you get the same effect from a regular 90D that you would from a P90D or P100D. Of couse if your goal is 2.3 seconds from 0-60 you need the P100D. I'm content to settle for 3.8 seconds from 0-60. I opted for the regular 90D instead of the P90D because first it was way cheaper and second the range is longer than the P90D because the rear motor is smaller.
It's like playing F-Zero or Wipeout or something as opposed to Forza. There's no throttle to open, no turbo to spool up, no transmission to downshift, or anything really. Below the top speed of 155 mph, I more or less control my speed dynamically, because acceleration is instantaneous, absolute, and always at the maximum available until I hit the speed governor. The torque curve on an electric motor is essentially flat from zero to top speed, so I have 485 lb-ft from standing until the software says i'm not allowed to go any faster.
I was cruising along on my way home and I saw an STI blow by me and I was like okay, let's stretch her legs a little bit so I followed him in his Rex for awhile at 90 mph until he exited the freeway. That was fun. For a car with a curb weight of 5,800 lbs. it feels pretty amazingly planted, the STI is roughly half my car's weight but this is a car which doesn't drive heavy because of the low center of gravity and the pleasant weight distribution of 48/52 front/rear which emphasizes the sheer insane acceleration of the car. I didn't have any problems following the STI around but I let him take point because I figured the cops would nail the car in the lead so I just stayed with him.
As a daily driver this is probably a little overkill for American freeways. Oh well.
I got my Model S. Sorry for the bad pictures, it was already getting dark when I found this empty parking lot to take these shots.
Driving this car is a bit ridiculous. There isn't any soulful roaring of exploding dinosaurs in a metal box to let me know I'm accelerating. I just floor it and I'm at 100 mph with nothing but the sound of the tires on the road and a subtle whine from the electric motors as they are fed many electrons. This isn't even the P90D, although the Ludicrous is really only for launching from a standing start, at cruising speeds you get the same effect from a regular 90D that you would from a P90D or P100D. Of couse if your goal is 2.3 seconds from 0-60 you need the P100D. I'm content to settle for 3.8 seconds from 0-60. I opted for the regular 90D instead of the P90D because first it was way cheaper and second the range is longer than the P90D because the rear motor is smaller.
It's like playing F-Zero or Wipeout or something as opposed to Forza. There's no throttle to open, no turbo to spool up, no transmission to downshift, or anything really. Below the top speed of 155 mph, I more or less control my speed dynamically, because acceleration is instantaneous, absolute, and always at the maximum available until I hit the speed governor. The torque curve on an electric motor is essentially flat from zero to top speed, so I have 485 lb-ft from standing until the software says i'm not allowed to go any faster.
I was cruising along on my way home and I saw an STI blow by me and I was like okay, let's stretch her legs a little bit so I followed him in his Rex for awhile at 90 mph until he exited the freeway. That was fun. For a car with a curb weight of 5,800 lbs. it feels pretty amazingly planted, the STI is roughly half my car's weight but this is a car which doesn't drive heavy because of the low center of gravity and the pleasant weight distribution of 48/52 front/rear which emphasizes the sheer insane acceleration of the car. I didn't have any problems following the STI around but I let him take point because I figured the cops would nail the car in the lead so I just stayed with him.
As a daily driver this is probably a little overkill for American freeways. Oh well.
shinshoryuken
Member
That was intense. First time watching LeMans and it was really interesting. Dare I say way more interesting than F1.
Fallout-NL
Member
Yeah it's awful. I love the car, I really do, but yeah, I might just try to do the next service myself. It's insane how much they charge.
Fallout-NL
Member
With the right tools, I suppose you definitely can. Engine is of course a bit harder to get at.
Haven't done it yet myself cause I won't have access to my own garage until next year - and besides, most of my time is taken up by all the maintenance my Buells need. There's also the worry that having to say 'I did a couple of services myself' will impact the car's value. Though to be honest, the money you save will probably offset that just fine.
SiteSeer
Member
this is what i do most of the time, i don't want to race but love the sensation of speed. i wonder though, do cops really pull over the lead or what? is there some kind of study on this?
Fallout-NL
Member
I was in a group of three people speeding once. I was following the lead car (on a motorcycle) and the car following me turned out to be an unmarked cop car.
He pulled us both over.
This was in the Netherlands though, so it might not be the same as in the US.
Small Boxster update: spent a small fortune on a big service (everything from oil to plugs, air filter, etc), new tires (Michelin Pilot Sport) and a modification of the cooling system. It now has the same water pump as a 996 Turbo (and the GT2) and a thermostat that opens a bit sooner. Should prevent some of the thermal spikes these cars sometimes deal with in hot weather / stop go traffic.
3500 euro *cries* but the cool thing is, it does actually drive much better than before.
Ouch! However, now that it is out of the way you have to be feeling pretty good about how the car is looking and driving. And it does look great for a 986!
Picked up a Jaguar F-Type R today... Sorry for the crap picture and for it being kind of dirty.
I got it back home around 21:30 from the dealership. I'm gonna wash it in the morning and get some proper shots.
Wow! Absolutely stunning. One of the best looking modern cars on the road, hands down. Congrats on that and enjoy it!
You will never hear me talking smack about the Model S or folks who own one. I consider it a pretty special feat of engineering and I am too much of a tech nerd not to be mightily impressed with what that car can do. Don't mind the haters, the Model S is legit and special.
Fallout-NL
Member
Thanks
, think it's the clear headlights and the silver color that help it look fresh.YuriLowell
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Roude Leiw
Member
I was at the Porsche Museum for the Le Mans event. Anyone interested in the pictures? I could upload them.
Indeed. Rare enough in the UK, let alone here in Seattle. It does look a bit Mustang-y though.
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Christberg
Member
Both of those are good choices although I'd personally favor the Miata. The TT is just super nose heavy. If you're buying used, keep a close eye on infotainment stuff, too. This stuff has changed a LOT in the last few years. In that price range I'd definitely check out a Toyota 86 and one of the higher trim Civics too. Maybe a Mazda 3 as well.
Be glad you're short. The Miata is a non starter for me although I haven't driven the newest one yet.
m_shortpants
Member
Congrats, it's a great car. I drove my in-laws P100D this weekend again and it really is something else.
Thanks. Yeah the Audi isn't great in the infotainment area but neither is the Miata. I have no appeal to the 3 or the Toyota. The civic I don't know. I've had an si in the past. It was ok I guess.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
So great news. Got my oil change and such done. Did the drop, as mentioned, and because they are linear springs, they settled and look even better than last week.
Now for the actual great news, my tech told me to come back to get the transmission mount replaced (yay for proper extended warranties!). And fuck...what a difference it's made. Remember when I was worried about some of the lurching or clunkiness of the car/trans and thought that the tranny may be a little weak and possibly failing? Welp, that's all gone. The mount was crushed like a soda can, just hadn't started to leak fluid yet. It was about a 45 minute job - and driving it home, the shifts were fantastic and smooth. Even at a stop, when shifting from 2 to 1, before the car would jolt - almost felt like a bad throttle body. Now that's gone, as well. It's just a much improved ride now.
So between the springs and this, the car really feels so much more refined and improved. I love it even more. Oh, and to add to that...a number of compliments over the past few days. Feelsgoodman.gif. They were also all women. Borat would very much like this car.
Now what I need is Rayge to sell me your wheels. I know you want to. It's okay.
Just sell them to me.
Now.
Now for the actual great news, my tech told me to come back to get the transmission mount replaced (yay for proper extended warranties!). And fuck...what a difference it's made. Remember when I was worried about some of the lurching or clunkiness of the car/trans and thought that the tranny may be a little weak and possibly failing? Welp, that's all gone. The mount was crushed like a soda can, just hadn't started to leak fluid yet. It was about a 45 minute job - and driving it home, the shifts were fantastic and smooth. Even at a stop, when shifting from 2 to 1, before the car would jolt - almost felt like a bad throttle body. Now that's gone, as well. It's just a much improved ride now.
So between the springs and this, the car really feels so much more refined and improved. I love it even more. Oh, and to add to that...a number of compliments over the past few days. Feelsgoodman.gif. They were also all women. Borat would very much like this car.
Now what I need is Rayge to sell me your wheels. I know you want to. It's okay.
Just sell them to me.
Now.
Do it.
Engine and transmission mounts can make a huge difference in feel and refinement. When I did that in conjunction with the steering flex disk it was such a huge improvement.
Got the tie rods and rear trailing arm bushings done over the weekend. I did the bushings in stages. 1 reason was frustration, 1 was it was fucking 114 F on Saturday. Weather was really nice (84 F) Sunday and I got the right side done in 1.5 hrs after spending at least 4 hrs on stupid mistakes and frustration on the left side. Pretty sure my brain was baking in the heat.
I took steps to keep the alignment as close as possible but that shit is messed up right now. It's fine below 50 but I won't be getting on the highway until i get the new tires and alignment Thursday morning. Rear end does feel a lot more stable over bumps though.
Got the tie rods and rear trailing arm bushings done over the weekend. I did the bushings in stages. 1 reason was frustration, 1 was it was fucking 114 F on Saturday. Weather was really nice (84 F) Sunday and I got the right side done in 1.5 hrs after spending at least 4 hrs on stupid mistakes and frustration on the left side. Pretty sure my brain was baking in the heat.
I took steps to keep the alignment as close as possible but that shit is messed up right now. It's fine below 50 but I won't be getting on the highway until i get the new tires and alignment Thursday morning. Rear end does feel a lot more stable over bumps though.
David Incorporated Esq.
Member
Nice. It's always fun eye-balling an alignment before taking it to a shop, isn't it?
"Oh well that looks about right. I'm sure it'll drive fiiiieeeeshit I'm going sideways!"
"Oh well that looks about right. I'm sure it'll drive fiiiieeeeshit I'm going sideways!"
About two weeks ago I discovered some damage to my bumper. I asked around at work if anyone had seen anything because I knew for a FACT that it was perfect when I parked. Apparently a giant truck got stuck in our parking lot making a delivery and knocked over a tree and a trash can in the process. Folks grabbed a bunch of photos of it happening. It was quite a scene.
I got the name of the trucking company from reception and called them to explain what happened. The guy was a BUTTHOLE and immediately accused me of an elaborate fraud scheme. Claimed his driver was innocent and I was an opportunist. I sent him a ton of photos and eyewitness accounts. He wouldn't budge, and wouldn't tell me his name or the name of his insurance company.
So I filed a police report - which got him to cough up the insurance company, and the insurance company took one look at the collection of twenty photos and eyewitness accounts and even some GPS logging and security camera footage we had, and immediately paid up. The client still denying it.
Anyway, JUSTICE! I was lucky my colleagues all had cameras. Thank you technology.
I got the name of the trucking company from reception and called them to explain what happened. The guy was a BUTTHOLE and immediately accused me of an elaborate fraud scheme. Claimed his driver was innocent and I was an opportunist. I sent him a ton of photos and eyewitness accounts. He wouldn't budge, and wouldn't tell me his name or the name of his insurance company.
So I filed a police report - which got him to cough up the insurance company, and the insurance company took one look at the collection of twenty photos and eyewitness accounts and even some GPS logging and security camera footage we had, and immediately paid up. The client still denying it.
Anyway, JUSTICE! I was lucky my colleagues all had cameras. Thank you technology.
Fallout-NL
Member
Very nice Stinkles.
YuriLowell
Member
Got some new parts in to put on the old daily E36.
New Rotors, new front hubs with wheel bears, and a new steering shaft coupler, oh and some pentosin brake fluid for a nice new brake fluid flush.
Hopefully get it done this weekend.
New Rotors, new front hubs with wheel bears, and a new steering shaft coupler, oh and some pentosin brake fluid for a nice new brake fluid flush.
Hopefully get it done this weekend.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Awesome. I figured that scaring them a little with police reports and such would work. Just make sure your insurance never catches wind of any of this. You don't want a mark on your CarFax.
Yeah, big time. I had complained to the dealership previous times about the transmission and it acting clunky sometimes, but to no avail. I'm surprised they never did a visual check on the mount. Fortunately, my tech returned from Ferrari/Maserati and is back to working on my cars again. I have a hard time trusting some of the other techs - with the exception of maybe one other.
Anyway, I'm just glad the car's running even better than before. I think Rayge has no idea what kind of excitement he's in for with a Jag. They become a passion for owners.
Laws00
Member
How are the BMW Z4s?
I see all these praises for miatas and fiat 124s but love for the z4
Is it really not that great of a car or is it like a price to fun ratio and or maintenance fees keeping it from buying a good buy?
is it even part of that segment of roadsters or should it be in line with luxury ones?
I see all these praises for miatas and fiat 124s but love for the z4
Is it really not that great of a car or is it like a price to fun ratio and or maintenance fees keeping it from buying a good buy?
is it even part of that segment of roadsters or should it be in line with luxury ones?