Avengers: Age of Ultron and Ant Man - Potential Spoiler Bomb Unleashed

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I'd be surprised if this is true. Marvel movies have not been anywhere as complicated as this so far It would make for an incredibly confusing movie, especially if it relies on people having watched all the other movies.
 
TDLink said:
Ant Man was originally written in 2006 but underwent rewrites earlier this year in order to tie it into the MCU rather than be "Stand alone". Joss Whedon is the "Showrunner" of the MCU, who along with executive producer Kevin Feige oversee all projects in the MCU. Whether this is true or not, whatever happens in Ant Man is definitely taking the rest of the MCU into consideration and the rest of the MCU is taking it into consideration.
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This doesn't mean that Ant-Man is going to be infinitely tied into the events that go down in A2 to where the movie wouldn't make sense without seeing it.

Just that there may be nods and winks towards other movies, ala cap's shield in Iron Man 2.
 
TDLink said:
Ant Man was originally written in 2006 but underwent rewrites earlier this year in order to tie it into the MCU rather than be "Stand alone". Joss Whedon is the "Showrunner" of the MCU, who along with executive producer Kevin Feige oversee all projects in the MCU. Whether this is true or not, whatever happens in Ant Man is definitely taking the rest of the MCU into consideration and the rest of the MCU is taking it into consideration.
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None of this suggests that Ant Man has anything to do with Ultron, which Whedon has stated numerous times that he does not
 
Now I know it is bullshit cause I remembered what this sounded like

The Mandarin will essentially take over the world with the help of Ultron who then over throws Mandarin and creates his age.
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Dude is taking shit from comics in thinking they will use it wholesale
 
Sounds too complicated for the GA (as proven by this thread). I like the more comic-like complex plot but I'm not sure it would work in practice, if this is at all true.
 
Nairume said:
This doesn't mean that Ant-Man is going to be infinitely tied into the events that go down in A2 to where the movie wouldn't make sense without seeing it.

Just that there may be nods and winks towards other movies, ala cap's shield in Iron Man 2.
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Depending on the tone and plot of Ant Man, the stuff discussed here (its possible relation to Avengers 2) could be a minor scene played off as a gag or afterthought to whatever the main plot of that movie is.

The rumour is definitely clear that Avengers 2 will make sense without seeing Ant Man, just Ant Man is a twist on what we'll see in A2. And I think it's safe to assume that just about everyone seeing Ant Man will have seen A2.

terribletwo said:
None of this suggests that Ant Man has anything to do with Ultron, which Whedon has stated numerous times that he does not
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Apparently he has just stated that you don't need Ant Man to do Ultron, not that they weren't using Ant Man at all. If you have a source where he directly said they straight up weren't going to involve him then feel free to link it. I honestly don't remember.
 
Sounds like a convoluted fucking mess, and it would confuse the shit out of the majority of their audience.
I have to assume they aren't stupid enough to make the story anything more complicated than "Avengers punch Robot Man in face". Or "Avengers punch Purple Alien God in face".
 
Slayven said:
Now I know it is bullshit cause I remembered what this sounded like



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Dude is taking shit from comics in thinking they will use it wholesale
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Based on the rumours it isn't an exact copy of that story at all. Plus, the MCU movies absolutely do borrow from the comic arcs. Winter Soldier is allegedly going to be fairly close to a straight adaptation even.

beyond_death said:
Sounds too complicated for the GA (as proven by this thread). I like the more comic-like complex plot but I'm not sure it would work in practice, if this is at all true.
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siddx said:
Sounds like a convoluted fucking mess, and it would confuse the shit out of the majority of their audience.
I have to assume they aren't stupid enough to make the story anything more complicated than "Avengers punch Robot Man in face". Or "Avengers punch Purple Alien God in face".
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Keep in mind the general audience wouldn't be hit with this at once, in a single scene, like everyone in this topic is reading it in a single post. It would be spread out over multiple movies and a tv show, possibly with short films to supplement it. It's also, if true, incredibly likely that there is more to it in order to have it make more sense.

There can be complicated, and even convoluted, plots in movies provided the characters make it make sense.
 
TDLink said:
Based on the rumours it isn't an exact copy of that story at all. Plus, the MCU movies absolutely do borrow from the comic arcs. Winter Soldier is allegedly going to be fairly close to a straight adaptation even.





Keep in mind the general audience wouldn't be hit with this at once, in a single scene, like everyone in this topic is reading it in a single post. It would be spread out over multiple movies and a tv show, possibly with short films to supplement it. It's also, if true, incredibly likely that there is more to it in order to have it make more sense.

There can be complicated, and even convoluted, plots in movies provided the characters make it make sense.
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Yeah they borrowed from the comics, but they always streamlined the story. This is anything but streamlined.
 
I can see Killian coming back, calling himself the Mandarin and having the rings - especially after Guardians introduces Cosmic Marvel.

This AI crap though...yeah this isn't happening.
 
TDLink said:
It would be spread out over multiple movies and a tv show, possibly with short films to supplement it. It's also, if true, incredibly likely that there is more to it in order to have it make more sense.
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You might be overstating that point. Keeping the Ant-Man stuff separate, that's still a lot of plot and exposition you need to convey and there's only two movies they can fit in, Cap 2 and Avengers 2. (Really doubt any of this is going to seep into Guardians.) I think we can safely count Agents of SHIELD out. The show is only ever going to be superficially involved with the movies.
 
I don't believe this one. I went to the source, and he stated there was going to be an episode of Agents of Shield where they dealt with the aftermath of Iron Man 3 and that the events of AoS are in real time. However, that really doesn't work since we know Thor 2 takes place chronologically after IM3, and we've already had an episode dealing with the aftermath of Thor 2 (well not really). Also, Agents of Shield won't be back til January/
 
Popnbake said:
......okay.

Are the last few pages showing Ms. Marvel wanting to start a near incest relationship with her 'son' after all this or are they the pages in which she was under the influence to go to limbo?
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She was still being mind controlled and went back to limbo with him. But he died because of time issues.
 
time loop time loop time loop time loop looped time of poop loop time time loop time loop

I did not enjoy reading that article.
 
fallengorn said:
You might be overstating that point. Keeping the Ant-Man stuff separate, that's still a lot of plot and exposition you need to convey and there's only two movies they can fit in, Cap 2 and Avengers 2. (Really doubt any of this is going to seep into Guardians.) I think we can safely count Agents of SHIELD out. The show is only ever going to be superficially involved with the movies.
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Extremis has already been introduced in IM3 though. And it is also already in AoS, meaning we can't really count it out.

mugurumakensei said:
I don't believe this one. I went to the source, and he stated there was going to be an episode of Agents of Shield where they dealt with the aftermath of Iron Man 3 and that the events of AoS are in real time. However, that really doesn't work since we know Thor 2 takes place chronologically after IM3, and we've already had an episode dealing with the aftermath of Thor 2 (well not really). Also, Agents of Shield won't be back til January/
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Yeah I saw that tweet, keep in mind that the first three episodes in January would have been filmed before they took a break for the end of the year, around when they filmed the mid-season finale that already premiered. It's not out of the question that "filmed for around christmas" could very well be one of the first eps back in January. We'll find out about that soon. The mid-season finale definitely did involve Extremis so it's not out of the question.
 
People on GAF have been saying Ant-Man is going to bomb big time, so adding the time travel "hook" to tie into Avengers 2 could be a way for the film make more in the box office.

And is it me or does Wardell's premise for Ant-Man remind anyone of Back to the Future 2?
 
Sounds horrible. Just really, really fucking bad.

And as for references to the actual Age of Ultron storyline, I hope they stay as far the fuck away from that as possible. Cant we just get an Ultron story where he is a crazy powerful robot out destroying shit and they go stop him without making it complicated time travel bullshit?
 
PhoncipleBone said:
Sounds horrible. Just really, really fucking bad.

And as for references to the actual Age of Ultron storyline, I hope they stay as far the fuck away from that as possible. Cant we just get an Ultron story where he is a crazy powerful robot out destroying shit and they go stop him without making it complicated time travel bullshit?
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Perhaps one where they will have words with Ultron?
 
mugurumakensei said:
I don't believe this one. I went to the source, and he stated there was going to be an episode of Agents of Shield where they dealt with the aftermath of Iron Man 3 and that the events of AoS are in real time. However, that really doesn't work since we know Thor 2 takes place chronologically after IM3, and we've already had an episode dealing with the aftermath of Thor 2 (well not really). Also, Agents of Shield won't be back til January/
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Re-Analyzing your comment I also want to point out that Iron Man 3 takes place at Christmas. AoS is supposed to start shortly after Avengers. And in Iron Man 3 they say it is about 6 months after Avengers. So in "real time" the MCU Phase 2 timeline is:

Avengers (Summer) > AoS Starts (end of Summer) > Thor 2 (November) > AoS Continues > IM3 (Christmas) > AoS Continues > Captain America (April) > AoS concludes > Avengers 2 (Summer) > Ant Man (Late Summer)

So it's all basically in one year, MCU time, when you think about AoS taking place in our "real time".
 
That reads like someone trying to adapt Infinite Crisis to film.

Some shit is best left in comics or GI Joe/Transformers films. Ugh at the AI angle, no way this is true.
 
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