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[GymWolf]

Dying Light was build around parkour. Like Assassins Creed titles.

Am noticing this game has some ledges, like a couple of foot taller than MC, that you can reach using parkour.

From the footage i saw there is light platforming and similar stuff you find in dying light, running trying to jump ad the last second to reach a ledge on the other side or climbing to reach high places, all of that is in avowed aswell so even if parkour is not as central as it was in dl, the use is pretty much the same.

It's enough for me.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Still looking forward to the game. It seems to be decent, and I'm an Obsidian stan.
I'm not worried about the non-interactivity of the world, that's not what I'm looking for and I adjust my expectations as such.
Yeah, New Vegas is my 2nd favorite RPG ever, but it is in spite of all the stuff littered over the world.

I have KCD 2 for the hardcore sim.

Avowed absolutely nails combat and exploration. I can't speak on the story just yet because I'm only a couple hours in.

 

[RoboFu]

Game actually looks halfway decent. After dragon age being a huge let down it's either try this game or play through eldin ring yet again.

 

[KungFucius]

Many of the reviews are suspiciously similar to Dragon Age Veilguard, you read the final quote and the reviewer tries to excuse the shortcomings and then gives it a good rating

Something smells fishy papis

What exactly are you expecting? The game scores good, they say it is good but not great, therefore it must be a conspiracy? Sure.

 

[Orbital2060]

So its an 8/10

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Damn

Add on the Xbox tax and you've pretty much got a sub 70 game

 

[Mister Wolf]

So its an 8/10

It's certainly better than Outer Worlds 1. I wonder if Outer worlds 2 will surpass it.

 

[Orbital2060]

It's certainly better than Outer Worlds 1. I wonder if Outer worlds 2 will surpass it.

Thats great, I loved Outer Worlds. It should, with all of the experience they have made with developing this, and with some Xbox money backing from the start of development.

 

[Hot5pur]

Looks like a banger of a game, 80+ is not trivial to achieve. It does seem like we have either a bunch of anti-woke snowflakes or angry Sony fans being resentful, but that's gaming for you these days.

 

[Thief1987]

80+ is not trivial to achieve.

Please. AAA games, especially western, getting 80+ just for the fact of their existence. There are very few exceptions to this rule.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

Looks like a banger of a game, 80+ is not trivial to achieve. It does seem like we have either a bunch of anti-woke snowflakes or angry Sony fans being resentful, but that's gaming for you these days.

There you go.

It's obviously the "haters", Sony ponies and the chud "snowflakes" who are at fault here, not the fact that it looks mediocre as hell, has a terrible art direction and it's full of bugs (game breaking ones at that), no sir...

Also: Maybe you've been living under a rock sir but, this is also coming to the PlayStation so your "theories" don't actually hold.

"Looks like a banger of a game"
Yeah...

 

[Wimbledon]

Customization wasn't bad, but going from playing the first Kingdom come Deliverance to this is jarring. Character feels stiff and heavy , its been awhile since i played a regular RPG. The combat worlds apart from KCD but its all good though i dont know if i can enjoy a regular combat system anymore after KCD. lol

i just wanted to try it out. Ill jump back in after im done with KCD 1.

 

[UnrealEck]

I've played a bit of it and it is VERY disappointing for an Obsidian game and just demonstrates they are only Obsidian in name. (I am a fan of FONV and played a little POE and KOTOR)

Out of the reviews I've seen, this one most closely covers what I saw with the game.

• Overblown sound effects
• A lot of bad dialogue that doesn't have a sense of medieval fantasy but is very modern
• A lot of voice acting that doesn't look right with the character model
• The UI is annoying (no character stat sheet next to your inventory for example) and there's a lot of things just thrown together like transmogrifying (WoW term?) gear or sending and retrieving stuff to an item box through the menu (does a wormhole just open up?) I couldn't figure out how to drop a mouldy piece of food so the UI tells me left click to consume so I think it might be right click to drop. Nope, right click also consumes so it poisoned me.
• You'll be constantly going into the inventory menu and eating loads of individual food items to replenish health if you've no potions. You can't make these food items better or cook them or anything from what I've seen.
• The graphics are very grainy looking. Like an excessive film grain effect over the entire screen.
• Framerate can go down to the 70's-80's with nothing happening around you (max settings, DLSS quality, 3440x1440, RTX 4090/9800X3D)
• There's lots of (RT?) noise on surfaces and shadows.
• No HDR and in SDR it looks a little washed out.
• Towns are boring. Lots of doors are closed. NPC's stand around and don't move. There's abandoned work stuff/equipment lying around with no NPC near it or using it.
• A lot of NPC's look bad and reminded me of Starfield.
• Can't kill NPC's or even attack them. I freed a prisoner at the start and tried to attack her only to find my weapon swings just go right through her body.
• The build variety (looking at the skill tree and 'classes') seems limited and there's not many typical RPG stats.
• Dialogue choices don't seem to matter much.

On a purely world and gameplay design perspective this is a 15 year old game.

 

[panda-zebra]

Big thanks to all those paying early to help iron out all those bugs and crashes so that this game might shine and reach the dizzy heights of mild success it so dearly deserves.

 

[Idleyes]

Avowed' is the worlds first single player mmorpg.

 

[Flabagast]

Mr Matty also spends the first 5 mins saying its a good game, just not "OBSIDIAN GOAT" game.

When I saw the review from the Arkane dev explaning how everything is static, the NPCs included, I just stepped down. I'm disappointed that it could have been much better, but it doesn't seem a bad game at all. Not $138 Premium Steam worthy though, thus the refund.

What is the review from Arkane dev ?

 

[Zathalus]

[*]You'll be constantly going into the inventory menu and eating loads of individual food items to replenish health if you've no potions. You can't make these food items better or cook them or anything from what I've seen.

When reviewers get basic stuff like this wrong it makes me wonder. You can cook multiple recipes with most of food items you find around, with all of them providing various buffs. This is explained the first time in your camp.

 

[pudel]

Avowed' is the worlds first single player mmorpg.

 

[Da1337Vinci]

Avowed' is the worlds first single player mmorpg.

Kingdom of Amalaur though

 

[Idleyes]

Kingdom of Amalaur though

Ok, I stand corrected. Avowed is the worlds second single player mmorpg.

 

[Humdinger]

Having actually played the game I’m wondering when the supposed DEI stuff is supposed to show up. The only thing I noticed was the ability for you to select your pronouns, with a menu toggle to hide it entirely as well.

There was the one Youtuber who said the game "hates men," because the game is filled with powerful women and all the men are corrupt or gay. He said Kai has bigger boobs than the women in the game. He also claimed the game was criticizing white people, but that was based on his inference about one faction, which seemed like a stretch to me.

I haven't heard that sort of thing from anyone else, so far. It may have been just his take. I wouldn't be surprised if the game came off as more admiring of women than men, but I don't want to take his word for it. A lot of people just see what they are prepared to see. Confirmation bias and all.

Please. AAA games, especially western, getting 80+ just for the fact of their existence. There are very few exceptions to this rule.

Yup. Whenever a "predict the reviews" poll comes up, I always vote lower 80s, and I'm almost always right - not because I'm a genius, but because that is what these types of games almost always score. It's so predictable it's kind of funny.

 

[T4keD0wN]

Ok, I stand corrected. Avowed is the worlds second single player mmorpg.

Forgot about Dragon Age Inquisition?

 

[nowhat]

Big thanks to all those paying early to help iron out all those bugs and crashes so that this game might shine and reach the dizzy heights of mild success it so dearly deserves.

Yeah, looking forward to picking this up from a PSN sale and mildly enjoying it.

 

[Idleyes]

Forgot about Dragon Age Inquisition?

Didn't it actually have multiplayer though?

 

[T4keD0wN]

Didn't it actually have multiplayer though?

No, fully SP, but it had a ton of multiplayer leftovers, like the whole war table being seemingly real time based.

Veilguard also did (very hard to tell there) and i would argue Andromeda also had ton of MMO-ish content, AC games also have lot of that stuff.

 

[adamsapple]

Didn't it actually have multiplayer though?

Separate mode/segment, the main campagin wasn't MP.

Looks like a banger of a game, 80+ is not trivial to achieve. It does seem like we have either a bunch of anti-woke snowflakes or angry Sony fans being resentful, but that's gaming for you these days.

 

[Hudo]

Forgot about Dragon Age Inquisition?

Yes. As it should be.

 

[Idleyes]

Ok, it's been decided. Avowed is one of many single player mmorpgs.

 

[ManaByte]

Looks like a banger of a game, 80+ is not trivial to achieve. It does seem like we have either a bunch of anti-woke snowflakes or angry Sony fans being resentful, but that's gaming for you these days.

 

[pudel]

Andromeda was also had ton of MMO stuff

Sad, but true.

 

[Frexerik88]

Seems like a 8/10 "AA" game.
Not every game has to be the next Red Dead.

I dont understand why people who havent played it are working so hard to shit on it for not being something its not.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Forgot about Dragon Age Inquisition?

What about Final Fantasy XII?

 

[adamsapple]

What about Final Fantasy XII?

Rogue Galaxy too.

 

[T4keD0wN]

What about Final Fantasy XII?

Oh man, ive started with 15 (which felt like an MMO too, but it was a proper one because of the Comrades mode or whatever it was called) and went back only as far as 13.

Guess we could probably make an extensive list, theres undoubtedly a lot more.

 

[Buggy Loop]

What is the review from Arkane dev ?

Ex-Arkane i should have said, he now works at Wolfeye studios (Weird west)



He's really disappointed that its not an "Obsidian" RPG. While some reviewers approached it as what is this "game" and had better impressions.


Another french reviewer I saw basically said this is his favorite obsidian RPG of all time.



And look at this combat footage, he says its very skilled based. Parries and counters etc. I didn't see many reviewers doing combat as good as this reviewer, @ 15:12

Polar opposites for sure. I think it probably lands somewhere in-between. For some peoples this might click better because of the combat movement flow and parkour elements than say booting up janky ass Fallout new vegas. While for some others its the worst "obsidian" RPG. Will be interesting to see user impressions later down the line. Avowed might just be its own thing.

 

[splattered]

Everything Sony releases 1st party is trash now so of course Microsoft aren't allowed to release anything even mid-good in certain people's eyes. Game scoring 8/10 and people in here acting like warrior babies is a funny thing to see. It's not GOTY but certainly worth a play through according to most reviewers and consumers on social media ive seen so far. Enough for me to play it and delete it and move on and that's pretty much gaming in a nutshell these days.

 

[adamsapple]

Oh man, ive started with 15 (which felt like an MMO too, but it was a proper one because of the Comrades mode or whatever it was called) and went back only as far as 13.

Guess we could probably make an extensive list, theres undoubtedly a lot more.

It's more common now but back when FF12 first came out, lots of folks laughed at it because it 'played itself' once you set up the proper gambits, little did we know how many other games would follow similar setups in the years after that.

A game ahead of its time, FF12.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Oh man, ive started with 15 (which felt like an MMO too, but it was a proper one because of the Comrades mode or whatever it was called) and went back only as far as 13.

Guess we could probably make an extensive list, theres undoubtedly a lot more.

It’s the first time I’d heard of a game being described as an offline MMO. Not so much because of sidequests, mainly because it has lots of big zones to explore, and because you program your party members’ behavior instead of manually picking every action for them.

It’s a great game though. XII: Zodiac Age might be my favorite game in the series.

 

[Redefine07]

Game made by ghei people , enjoy it folks.

 

[Topher]

Everything Sony releases 1st party is trash now so of course Microsoft aren't allowed to release anything even mid-good in certain people's eyes. Game scoring 8/10 and people in here acting like warrior babies is a funny thing to see.

You don't see the irony of those two sentences?

 

[Thief1987]

It's not GOTY

Yeah, unlike trash Sony releases

 

[poppabk]

You don't see the irony of those two sentences?

And a whole lot wrong, with Astrobot still fresh and Indiana Jones getting solid scores.
MS do struggle with not making universally liked games - always doing things differently or a little oddly, but I like that they do. A 90+ Indiana Jones would have been a third person, more linear game, and I personally would have been a whole lot less interested in it because of that.

 

[Gorgon]

• Towns are boring. Lots of doors are closed. NPC's stand around and don't move. There's abandoned work stuff/equipment lying around with no NPC near it or using it.
• A lot of NPC's look bad and reminded me of Starfield.
• Can't kill NPC's or even attack them. I freed a prisoner at the start and tried to attack her only to find my weapon swings just go right through her body.
• The build variety (looking at the skill tree and 'classes') seems limited and there's not many typical RPG stats.
• Dialogue choices don't seem to matter much.

On a purely world and gameplay design perspective this is a 15 year old game.

This is the curse of so many open-world games. It's worse when games are supposed to be RPGs but it's also bad in other cases like in Ghost of Tsushima.

Avowed' is the worlds first single player mmorpg.

That's probably the best short description of it from what I've seen/read so far. Seems like a decent/OK overall game if what you want is a major focus on action and combat, but otherwise feels lacking.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Looks like a banger of a game, 80+ is not trivial to achieve. It does seem like we have either a bunch of anti-woke snowflakes or angry Sony fans being resentful, but that's gaming for you these days.

Here at least, it’s just Sony warriors who hoped for a worse game. Someone shouid remind them that the war is over. Also that this game they want to suck, will eventually come to PS5.

It’s also funny that they diarrhea all over this thread and claim “mid” because of an 80 meta but at the same time we have threads on here right now clamoring for remasters of games like Days Gone (71 meta), Order 1886 (63 meta) and #Driveclub (71 meta). Weird how that works.

He loved it, actually.

He says all of that in the avowed review.

He said it within like 90 seconds of that Avowed review. But the person you’re quoting obviously didn’t actually watch the review he linked, he just saw an Xbox guy was disappointed with the game and posted the video. He’s been shitting on the game for awhile now, he needs it to be lackluster.

Having actually played the game I’m wondering when the supposed DEI stuff is supposed to show up. The only thing I noticed was the ability for you to select your pronouns, with a menu toggle to hide it entirely as well.

I am still in the first city and I saw a cool fountain so I got closer and I heard a woman talking to herself trying to build up the courage to do something and I assumed it was something work related. So I talked to her and it turns out she is having a fling with another woman but has fallen hard for a man and wants to give the woman this letter to break off their thing and I agreed to give the letter for her. I assume the usual crybaby grifters have played very little of the game, otherwise something as monstrous as this would be blowing up.

What’s weird is it didn’t give me a quest or anything for it

 

[Gorgon]

Here at least, it’s just Sony warriors who hoped for a worse game. Someone shouid remind them that the war is over. Also that this game they want to suck, will eventually come to PS5.

The war is only over when State of Decay 2 comes to PS5.

It’s also funny that they diarrhea all over this thread and claim “mid” because of an 80 meta but at the same time we have threads on here right now clamoring for remasters of games like Days Gone (71 meta), Order 1886 (63 meta) and #Driveclub (71 meta). Weird how that works.

Admitedly, that's true.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Avowed absolutely nails combat and exploration. I can't speak on the story just yet because I'm only a couple hours in.

It's certainly better than Outer Worlds 1. I wonder if Outer worlds 2 will surpass it.

I trust your opinion. Keep us updated

The review score reminds me of two games that I had absolute blasts with

Both games are the definition of "WTF is wrong with peoples", Wukong was my GOTY last year and Prey is a GOAT immersive sim.

I'm definitely in next week

Peoples are saying that the exploration in Avowed is very immersive sim like, like while doors are locked there's a ton of ways to find a way in. I love that. Don't hesitate to confirm if you have the same impression Mister Wolf

 

[Bry0]

Looks ok. I have a gamepass sub active from sniper elite so I will try it. More than anything I just like fun gameplay, and the gameplay does look fun.

 

[Thebonehead]

This pos gets 8/10 and really good game forspoken gets destroyed for nothing.

This dei shit should’ve taken the hit. Especially that it’s just mid. Not good games that try some unique stuff

Edit: people who laugh at this post are xbots and fake gamers who wouldn’t know a good game if it was handed to them. I can’t believe some of you still believe the awful forspoken smear campaign and prefer this soulless Microsoft dei crap. That’s just dad

You can take the man out of IconEra, but you can't take the IconEra out of the man

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Gman is the only review that matters and this game looks so bad that I want Microsoft to cancel my Gamepass subscription early.

A role playing game with almost no role playing.

 

[UnrealEck]

When reviewers get basic stuff like this wrong it makes me wonder. You can cook multiple recipes with most of food items you find around, with all of them providing various buffs. This is explained the first time in your camp.

That's on me then. To clarify that's the view I had from playing, not the video (though he does say the same in the video).
Admittedly I did skip talking to a lot of NPCs in the first area because it was so boring and lifeless.