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Avowed | Review Thread

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It was so bad that people have started questioning his "100%" gimmick. Some of the achievements he has magically managed to attain would take months of normal play to get.

If you're talking specifically about Veilguard, that game is a pretty easy 100%, you don't even need to do multiple playthroughs.

If you mean other games he's done recently, I can't add much to that.
 

GymWolf

Member
The 100% approach made me wonder when he claimed he did so with Yakuza 8. Because by his standard, 100% means not only achievements, but everything inside out the game.

That means clearing Virtual fighter with the whole roster, win pool, dart, baseball, etc. in all modes, finish all karaoke songs with perfect score, etc. There are literally hunderds of this challenges, how could he possibly finish all of this before game release?

Either he cheated or he did not do every as he claimed for the game.
His 100% shtik always sounded extremely sus, some games need hundreds and hundreds of hours for a 100% trophy and he has to do that with every game, even games he dislike, any normal human being would be fucking burned by now.
 

Dazraell

Member
Well, my man adamsapple adamsapple is celebrating while my man Buggy Loop Buggy Loop has canceled preorder. Go figure.
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GHG

Member
That was in question way before his Veilguard review. People have been calling him a fraud for a while now and I believe there's some truth to it so he can maintain his 100% gimmick. Anyone can idle a game for hundreds of hours and run an achievement unlocker on Steam.

Would go some way to explaining why some of the things he says regarding the games he's reviewing are so vague/generic or only apply to the first few hours.

It's not apparent before you've played a game, but if you go back and watch one of his reviews after completing a game he's covered, many things stop adding up.

If you're talking specifically about Veilguard, that game is a pretty easy 100%, you don't even need to do multiple playthroughs.

If you mean other games he's done recently, I can't add much to that.

Other games.
 
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Kacho

Gold Member
Would go some way to explaining why some of the things he says regarding the games he's reviewing are so vague/generic or only apply to the first few hours.

It's not apparent before you've played a game, but if you go back and watch one of his reviews after completing a game he's covered, many things stop adding up.



Other games.
You nailed it. Each section of his reviews often feel like a general overview, like he’s reading an instruction booklet line for line.
 

GymWolf

Member
Not in every case but when someone with 100+ hours into a game says it's well worth your time, it means something from their point of view.

Not that a game with 80~ aggregate is poorly reviewing or anything, mind you.
Their point of view can be completely different from yours because you have different taste so how much they played the game is ininfluential.

Would you listen to a dude that says that spiderman 2 is the best vg ever made just because he played for 500 hours? It sound like such a stupid metric...
 

delishcaek

Member
Gonna wait for a sale on this one, but only because Karak/ACG said he had fun with combat. If it weren't for his opinion I'd prolly never bother touching it.

True, people act like its a 65 or something.
Getting a low 80 MC (or even 79 on PC) from media outlets is pretty much comparable to a 6/10 to the average gamer.

Even more so when it's a game that has developers championing this DEI bullshit on social media.
 

Judge Death

Member
Game is reviewing pretty well and you are thumping your warrior bible about Sony's financials as if there is any relation at all there? That's one of the worst console warrior takes I've seen in a review thread in a while. Congrats.
Did you seriously not see any of the Sony Bootlicker posts saying the game is shite in this thread, well before I "thumped my warrior bible"?. I guess you must not have as you didn't reply to any of those with a smug, shit gif.
 

T4keD0wN

Member
The graphics in the review footage looks downgraded about as hard as a Ubisoft game compared to the trailers.

Did not expect the combat to the most praised part, really makes me concerned about the writing, 25% reviews say the story is uninteresting/generic and 75% heavily praise it, so which is it?

Looks like ill wait a few weeks to see the user reviews, but it sounds just about good enough to play for now.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Would you listen to a dude that says that spiderman 2 is the best vg ever made just because he played for 500 hours? It sound like such a stupid metric...

No, because I've played SM2 myself. I haven't played this game yet and my own opinion is the ultimate authority. But we're in a review topic and one reviewer whose put in 100hrs into the game is saying it was well worth his time.


Getting a low 80 MC (or even 79 on PC) from media outlets is pretty much comparable to a 6/10 to the average gamer.

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This 'average gamer' must be really bad at math.
 
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I mean, that describes almost every “Gamepass Day 1” release.

“Not great, not terrible” collection:
  • Starfield
  • Senua 2
  • Pentiment
  • As dusk falls
  • Halo infinite
  • Forza Motorsport
  • FH5 - it’s fine, just been the same game since FH3
Indiana Jones is the one standout they’ve had in the last 2 years, and even that is just a fun romp you finish and probably never play again
I think I agree with your "not great, not terrible" collection observation, but for Indy - what's wrong with a game that you finish and probably never play again? I have a huge number of games that fall under that category and some are my favorite games of all time. Not every game needs to be some highly replayable experience.
 

amigastar

Member
Gonna wait for a sale on this one, but only because Karak/ACG said he had fun with combat. If it weren't for his opinion I'd prolly never bother touching it.


Getting a low 80 MC (or even 79 on PC) from media outlets is pretty much comparable to a 6/10 to the average gamer.

Even more so when it's a game that has developers championing this DEI bullshit on social media.
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SmokedMeat

Gamer™
It got a 7/10 from IGN and a 6/10 from Gamespot. These are heavily weighted websites. These bad review scores got split out. Gamespot only got counted for PC(which is currently setting at a 79) with IGN only counted for the Xbox console. Can anyone confirm this is correct?

Feels like the game has hung on to 80 too long. Feels artificial. MS playing fuck fuck games with the code distro again?

Metacritic aside, 7/10 from IGN and 6/10 from Gamespot is super, super shitty and an absolutely devastating score from the two biggest gaming websites. 6/10 from Gamespot the game will never live that down. With the way this game is priced on PC, I can't see it picking up many sales outside of gamepass. If the game had niche appeal or had a lower profile and lower need for profits this would not be that bad(though venturing into 7s on metacritic and having the two biggest gaming websites give you mediocre and bad review scores respectively) means one thing.

Review scores did not help this one. It will need to get by on word of mouth. It did not score high enough to outrank the woke creator, so this game will be doomed imho. There are too many haters, the game costs too much, and the game isn't good enough to push past it with quality. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, I will gladly admit it and eat crow if this game sells well or even has a high steam concurrent player count.

This is you in the Days Gone Remaster thread.

In to ride Sarah with my PSSR fully erect.

It's why you marry her.

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/04/25/days-gone-review 6.5

https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/days-gone-review-farewell-oregon/1900-6417130/ 5.0

Days Gone sits at a 71% Metacritic.
 

Buggy Loop

Member
Well, my man adamsapple adamsapple is celebrating while my man Buggy Loop Buggy Loop has canceled preorder. Go figure.

Just to be clear, I'm just not jumping in day 0 at premium $138 CAD. I still think there's things in it that seems interesting, just a wait and see approach with how more peoples feel about the game after playing it and or in the future at lower price.

I find it quite silly though the dancing around and circle jerking of peoples wanting this to fail. Cmon guys. Stop the warrior attitude. I think that the fact we don't get a peak obsidian RPG means every gamers lose, everyone.
 

GHG

Member
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Buggy Loop

Member
No, because I've played SM2 myself. I haven't played this game yet and my own opinion is the ultimate authority. But we're in a review topic and one reviewer whose put in 100hrs into the game is saying it was well worth his time.




Tom Cruise What GIF



This 'average gamer' must be really bad at math.

Mr Matty also spends the first 5 mins saying its a good game, just not "OBSIDIAN GOAT" game.

When I saw the review from the Arkane dev explaning how everything is static, the NPCs included, I just stepped down. I'm disappointed that it could have been much better, but it doesn't seem a bad game at all. Not $138 Premium Steam worthy though, thus the refund.
 

amigastar

Member
Games being overrated by most access media is a hard concept to grasp.
Ok, now i understand it, no need to be snarky dude, you just expressed yourself in the most retarded way. but i don't think its overrated by 20 points honestly. Infact 80 might be just right to the game.
 
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adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Games being overrated by most access media is a hard concept to grasp.

Yeah but I don't buy this hypothetical gamer that automatically cuts off 2 points from every review, either. 🤷‍♂️

Some of those average gamers might even think it's rated lower on aggregate.
 

MiguelItUp

Member
So what's the verdict? Does this game have a lot of woke shit shoved in or was that overblown?
Like most cases I'm sure it'll be subjective. Some people won't like what's there, some people won't care.

Just to be clear, I'm just not jumping in day 0 at premium $138 CAD. I still think there's things in it that seems interesting, just a wait and see approach with how more peoples feel about the game after playing it and or in the future at lower price.

I find it quite silly though the dancing around and circle jerking of peoples wanting this to fail. Cmon guys. Stop the warrior attitude. I think that the fact we don't get a peak obsidian RPG means every gamers lose, everyone.
Yeah, it sucks. Everyone should just want good/great games. It's gotten to the point now where something gets thrown around online and it puts some people in a tizzy so they want the game to fail. I don't get it. But I do think it's funny that we're seeing some examples where the whole "tizzy" was overblown and the majority of people enjoy the game. 🤷‍♂️

The game seems fine from what I can tell. The people that were originally interested will likely enjoy it. But it all depends on the person.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Not this shit again... Let's have a think about why that happened shall we:

Days-Gone-Fair-Reviewers.jpg


Avowed would do well to end up with steam reviews like this:

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Yep. I was LTTP playing this game, but glad I did on the PS5 in the full patched glory.

The gameplay loop was probably one of the best last gen. It's very, very rare a game would get me on the edge of my seat, but those horde loops did just that. Thankfully it showed me that I'm not fully desensitized to those gaming moments in the 40+ years of gaming.

This game was a thesis for a veiled and not so veiled CULTure war where they nitpicked shit other games, even this one here that has a broken quest and jank review NDA apparently, in a heavy handed manner to mask their bigotry. But they did let it be known on their socials.

The funny part is, the dude was supposedly a 1%er, but was the most progressive 1%er in the history of biker gangs. But they did not play the game far enough to see his best friend lesbo and how he bitched about the radio guy the entire time. They just hyper focused on the STRAIGHT WHITE GRUFF MALE outward appearance.
 
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Dane

Member
Is 8/10 really a mid game? Methinks a lot of you need a little bit realignment!

Good game joins a long list of good games on my backlog that I will definitely get round to one day soon.
WRPGS in a nutshell are fucked in all senses, where some are given pass to major technical and even design issues and others don't. That's not to say that there are overrated games.
 
Not this shit again... Let's have a think about why that happened shall we:

Days-Gone-Fair-Reviewers.jpg


Avowed would do well to end up with steam reviews like this:

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The IGN and Gamespot reviewer even got exposed on Twitter planning out their tanking Days Gone. Complained about all white freakers and the “ride me like you ride your bike” line.

If anything it’s a seal of approval for Days Gone to get even in the 70s. Avowed should be 11/10 to these people.
 

DirtInUrEye

Member
Robert Purchese on EG awarding this 4 out of 5 is all the warning you really need. He's fucking useless.

Despite that, I hope the game finds and audience and sells well. I like Obsidian and I badly need Grounded 2.
 

BigLee74

Member
WRPGS in a nutshell are fucked in all senses, where some are given pass to major technical and even design issues and others don't. That's not to say that there are overrated games.
Not my favourite genre (hence adding to backlog), but I did mostly enjoy Witcher 3, Skyrim, Fallout 3+ and Starfield when I finally got round to playing them all - with the exception of Starfield I was years late to the scene.

Fashionably late.
 

sainraja

Member
Port? It's releasing Day One on PC. It's literally half the reviews. Also, it would score lower including the PC reviews at this point.
You have OpenCritic that does what you are asking MetaCritic to do. Right now you have a way to compare one that includes ALL platforms, vs one that does not. Why take that away?
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Yep. I was LTTP playing this game, but glad I did on the PS5 in the full patched glory.

The gameplay loop was probably one of the best last gen. It's very, very rare a game would get me on the edge of my seat, but those horde loops did just that. Thankfully it showed me that I'm not fully desensitized to those gaming moments in the 40+ years of gaming.

This game was a thesis for a veiled and not so veiled CULTure war where they nitpicked shit other games, even this one here that has a broken quest and jank review NDA apparently, in a heavy handed manner to mask their bigotry. But they did let it be known on their socials.

The funny part is, the dude was supposedly a 1%er, but was the most progressive 1%er in the history of biker gangs. But they did not play the game far enough to see his best friend lesbo and how he bitched about the radio guy the entire time. They just hyper focused on the STRAIGHT WHITE GRUFF MALE outward appearance.
Yep, this game is more 'woke' than most other sony games and Deacon was very open for a biker.

Just from the top of my head, here are some examples:
- Indian love interest/female biker
- Interracial lesbian couple
- Strong female 'scientist' wife woke type
- A fucking White Christian Zealot as the main final boss
 

Dane

Member
Not my favourite genre (hence adding to backlog), but I did mostly enjoy Witcher 3, Skyrim, Fallout 3+ and Starfield when I finally got round to playing them all - with the exception of Starfield I was years late to the scene.

Fashionably late.
I barely play these games, but I remember how many jank 7.5 to 8.0 games like Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines, and the original KCD were all well received by players despite their obvious flaws.
 

Topher

Identifies as young
Watched both Matty and Karak Karak 's videos. Can say that I'm pretty much in the same boat as HeisenbergFX4 HeisenbergFX4 in that if it wasn't for Game Pass, I'd just skip it. But I'll give it a go and decide for myself. Expectations were never really high and nothing I've seen really changes that. But Karak is high on the gameplay and that goes a long way for me.

Why the hell is this game releasing on a Tuesday?
 

sainraja

Member
Port? It's releasing Day One on PC. It's literally half the reviews. Also, it would score lower including the PC reviews at this point.
Also, the game itself does not change based on platform, only how it performs, so I don't think that should weigh any scores down. I don't care that much but still.
 
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Sentenza

Member
I barely play these games, but I remember how many jank 7.5 to 8.0 games like Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines, and the original KCD were all well received by players despite their obvious flaws.
It's almost as if WHAT TYPE of flaws a game may have could make a difference in the way some people evaluate them.
There are "7/10" games that I would easily list among my all time favorites and 8/10 games that I wouldn't spend time on if I was paid for it.
 
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