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Backwards Compatibility: Rev(yes) PS3(probably) XENON(???)

No one knows for sure yet.

But now that Revolution is BC and PS3 will be BC the pressure is on MS now to see their console be BC as well. Do they want to be the only console out there without backward compatiblility?

On a semi related note, with Revolution being BC and wifi compatible out of the box I'm predicting a $299 launch price for Revolution.
 
Gold jacket, green jacket, who gives a shit?

In all seriousness, I know this is important for some but it just isn't to me. I don't think I've played a PSOne game since the PS2 launched.

While we're on the subject, was backwards compatability the reason Sony stuck with two controller ports and nearly identical controllers this gen? Ifso, I don't know that BC is something we should all be pining for in the first place.
 
not important to me either, but I bet its going to become a huge issue blown way out of proportion on these boards if it isn't.

You're already getting people saying the "pressure" is now on MS to make sure xenon is BC at all costs, etc


in other words, it doesn't matter :)
 
I care, i dont want to keep my old consoles if i can play my game collection on the newer ones, 3 consoles under my TV is better than 4 just because MS doesnt feel like BC is important, Xbox, nor any current gen consoles nor the next last forever either, xbox has an HDD and like any computer HDD, they have a lifespan that isnt that big, when that stops working, what are you gonna do, buy another xbox? I would prefer simply selling my xbox, buy xenon and be assured that my game collection for xbox will transfer flawlessly in the future without costing me additional cash.
 
F*ck the BC. I'm more floored of the possibility that Rev will support Wireless Lan out the box. No more dragging wires through rooms and doors and walls to setup that perfect lan party.
 
SomeDude said:
Don't care about backwards compatibility.
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That's great.

I don't think Xenon will be backwards compatible due to the different architecture of the system. I do remember seeing a few recent quotes that make me think they're at least trying for BC.
 
Ax always BC is a big feature at first then becomes meaningless for most.

But if XENON is to battle the hype train that is PS3, they will need to include it.
 
KeithFranklin said:
I honestly would prefer the extra $ needed to be BC spent on other things anyway.
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Yeah, they gotta save that money so they can give shiny, flat-panel HDTVs to a 1000 people at a developer conference. ;)
 
- BC is important to consumers who already have a large collection of games
- BC is important to parents/children/price conscious consumers who are satisfied with budget titles
- BC is important to developers knowing they can reuse old engines for future games
- BC is important to publishers who can keep on rereleasing older games as budget titles
- BC is important to publishers who want to cater for budget, mid and high price range consumers
- BC is important to retailers who have old stock to shift and shelf space dedicated to older games
- BC is important to retailers who want to cater for budget, mid and high price range consumers
- BC is important for the media because it means your console is launching with a back catalogue of hundreds (GCN) to thousands (PS3) of games and variety = sales.

I'm not interested in BC personally (although it means not having so many consoles hooked up at one time) but all those important participants of the videogame industry are.
 
BC isnt important for Xenon, since i don't plan to put away my modded xbox anytime soon, but it's great that i can have my PSX in a box and only have my PS2 out for when i want to play Tobal 2, DOA or SOTN
 
monkeymagic said:
- BC is important to consumers who already have a large collection of games
- BC is important to parents/children/price conscious consumers who are satisfied with budget titles
- BC is important to developers knowing they can reuse old engines for future games
- BC is important to publishers who can keep on rereleasing older games as budget titles
- BC is important to retailers who have old stock to shift and shelf space dedicated to older games
- BC is important for the media because it means your console is launching with a back catalogue of hundreds (GCN) to thousands (PS3) of games and variety = sales.

I'm not interested in BC personally (although it means not having so many consoles hooked up at one time) but all those important participants of the videogame industry are.
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I think you're right. And there's people playing their older games again. And another thing, with the console getting so weak lately and dying on you after using them 3 hours, i would like to be able to finish my PS2 backlog or replay my PS2 games on my PS3.
BC is a definite incitative to buy the new console for me.
 
Yeah, I think BC is hugely important (especially if the other two are doing it), and I would be very surprised if MS doesn't find a way to implement it. It's a GREAT way to get early adopters.
 
It certainly worked out for the GBA and the PS2 (and it's certainly making the NDS' current software situation more bearable)
 
Backwards compatability helps ease generational transitions, there's really no argument on that point. While I have high hopes for Xenon, it'd help if they could better ensure bringing their 20 million Xbox base over.
 
BC is important especially for those that haven't bought the previous console and with BC they have the possibility to buy two consoles instead of one.
For example I've never owned a Psone and with PS2 I had the possibility to play a lot of great games I had never played before.
 
I think XENON BC is very important in the sense that it will allow for releases still coming to XBOX to be accessible by people that own the new XENON. This will also encourage people to upgrade from XBOX - XBOX 2 and current developers to release there games with confidence that they aren't getting completly abandon.
 
monkeymagic said:
- BC is important to consumers who already have a large collection of games
- BC is important to parents/children/price conscious consumers who are satisfied with budget titles
- BC is important to developers knowing they can reuse old engines for future games
- BC is important to publishers who can keep on rereleasing older games as budget titles
- BC is important to publishers who want to cater for budget, mid and high price range consumers
- BC is important to retailers who have old stock to shift and shelf space dedicated to older games
- BC is important to retailers who want to cater for budget, mid and high price range consumers
- BC is important for the media because it means your console is launching with a back catalogue of hundreds (GCN) to thousands (PS3) of games and variety = sales.

I'm not interested in BC personally (although it means not having so many consoles hooked up at one time) but all those important participants of the videogame industry are.
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Bravo!
 
Compared to the "mass market gamer" we, who post on game message boards are all "hard core gamers"

To us, BC is not always or not mostly a big deal, but as monkeymagic so eloquently put it, the lack of BC *could* be an issue with the mass market gamers, the game publishers (who, with stockholders to answer to, closely monitor mass market gamers and their needs/wants) and, most importantly, the retailers who have to deal with the shelf space and double stocking issues of all these formats...

IMO, BC should be most important for MS since they have the shortest gap between console generations and therefore could piss off the most customers who might have waited until 2004/5 before getting an XBOX.....MS could possibly be the "odd man out" but in truth, it probably won't matter anyway.....I am sure they will get tons of XENON sales, though probably not to the degree of Sony console....say 30-40 million, vs 110 million..

In truth, though, that is a discussion for another thread....I was actually wondering if anyone had any insight (Blimblim) concerning a Yes/No of Xbox BC via XENON??

Just wondering..
 
Probably one of the most important issues to me. I have a game collection and if Xbox is not backwards compatible but PS3 and revolution are it will be the last console I buy. I have a backlog of games that I still want to play through and many games that I want to play again down the road.
 
jarrod said:
Backwards compatability helps ease generational transitions, there's really no argument on that point. While I have high hopes for Xenon, it'd help if they could better ensure bringing their 20 million Xbox base over.
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And there is also an online community to carry on.
 
So Revolution is to be backwards compatible. Does this tell us anything about the hardware and more specifically the media used? I'm assuming it'll just be a variation on the GC minidiscs except with higher capacity, possibly using DVD sized discs?
 
- BC is important to consumers who already have a large collection of games.
If you must get rid of your old console

- BC is important to parents/children/price conscious consumers who are satisfied with budget titles
If they are so price conscious then they wont be picking up an next gen console

- BC is important to developers knowing they can reuse old engines for future games
What?

- BC is important to publishers who can keep on rereleasing older games as budget titles
Why cant they do this anyway for the people that have the old consoles or buying them as discount consoles?

- BC is important to publishers who want to cater for budget, mid and high price range consumers
Why cant they do this anyway for the people that have the old consoles or buying them as discount consoles?

- BC is important to retailers who have old stock to shift and shelf space dedicated to older games
Why cant they do this anyway for the people that have the old consoles or buying them as discount consoles?

- BC is important to retailers who want to cater for budget, mid and high price range consumers
If they are so price conscious then they wont be picking up an next gen console

- BC is important for the media because it means your console is launching with a back catalogue of hundreds (GCN) to thousands (PS3) of games and variety = sales.
The only one that I really see merit
 
KeithFranklin said:
- BC is important to retailers who have old stock to shift and shelf space dedicated to older games
Why cant they do this anyway for the people that have the old consoles or buying them as discount consoles?
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Someone hasn't worked retail, I see.
 
KLee - well to answer your question ask yourself

Is it technically possible to emulate the most powerful current gen console in 2005?

If it is technically (most likely via hardware) is it cost effective?

Anyone care to give an educated assessment?
 
Kleegamefan said:
In truth, though, that is a discussion for another thread....I was actually wondering if anyone had any insight (Blimblim) concerning a Yes/No of Xbox BC via XENON??

Just wondering..
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i remember blimblim saying it was being worked on, but its not a certainty yet.
 
BC in the xbox saved some space in my entertainment unit. :P

Seriously, no bc in xbox would prove my fear about online console gamine true. That fear would be, the same thing that happened to Dreamcast, discontinued support.
 
I for one have been buying Xbox titles in hopes that the 2nd system is compatible. I for one don't want to buy a system the size of a small car just to play JSRF and Panzer 4.
 
It's important, especially if your competition is doing it. I think the hardware outlay would be made up by the continued sales of older games in the Xbox catalog. Not to mention they're basically slitting the throat of any legs for Xbox titles released this year if they don't include it.

I could forsee a scenario where the more expensive hard-drive version of the Xbox 360 has bw compatibility, or if it's only enabled when you buy the hard drive add-on, etc.

They could enable backwards compatibility in much the same way the Xbox enabled DVD playback: an optional add-on device or software pack.
 
bitwise said:
?

it has not been announced one way or the other, theres nothing to get defensive about.
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Let's call it pre-emptive damage control. ;)

And all the reasons listed above are very good points, not to mention the space issue.
 
I care. Publishers care. Developers care. Parents care. People with limited space in their living room care. Lots of people in this thread care. You however, it seems, don't. Thats allowed, but please don't think your opinion is the bottom line.
 
I used to think that BC was unimportant, but if you look at what Reggie said in his 1up interview and what Sony pulled off with the PSone this generation, there seems to be a very lucrative market in last gen systems as budget platforms. They may not be huge concern for MS, so I'm not sure if it will be an issue for Xenon. Nintendo and Sony on the other hand benefit from it in various ways.
 
bishoptl said:
Someone hasn't worked retail, I see.
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Yes I have.

Your telling me with 15,000,000 XBOX's sold retailers cant sell out the old stock without re-ordering. If that's not what was meant please explain.
 
I've already passed the 50 mark for PS2 games, and it's still going to increase as time goes by, so yeah, PS3 BC is quite important to me.

It's also worth stating that there's a 99% chance it will be BC. Didn't Sony already confirm BC with PS1 and 2 games?
 
What's with this blind hate against backwards compatibility?

you'd have to be a blind deaf mute retard to think backwards compatibility is a bad idea/unimportant.
 
Kleegamefan said:
So what is the deal with BW compatibility in XENON

Is it a no for sure?
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It's a yes -- IF you buy the bundle that includes the "XPod," or obtain (note: Not "purchase," as that's still being worked out) it separately. There won't be an Xbox Next with a built-in, non-removable HDD, and one with a "bay" for one. There's one machine with a slot.
 
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