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Batman: Arkham Asylum |OT| Steroids 'n Counters
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ThirstyFly
Member
mattso said:
Haha, yeah, that was a great touch.
Alright, I beat the main game, and I've been trying some challenges, and have run into a question. One of the Predator challenge medals says that it requires the Explosive Gel
upgrade. Now, I've taken care not to get this upgrade because I'd rather always detonate my gel remotely (so I can wait for more guys to get near it, etc.). So my questions are:
1. If I get the upgrade, is there a way to un-get it? Or disable it in normal use?
2. If I start a new game, get the upgrade, find the riddle to unlock the map (...sigh...), and get the medals there, will that count towards the trophy if all of my other medals are in a different game file?
3. Any other suggestions for how to get the platinum (eventually) without having to buy the upgrade? I could just do it at the very end, but I kinda like the idea of keeping the save file's posterity intact...
EDIT:
What kind of variation bonuses were you getting? They can be pretty huge--nine moves (the max, according to the trophy) gets you 5000 points. So if you can do that each round, that'd be 20,000 points right there.
Auto Proximity Detonation
1. If I get the upgrade, is there a way to un-get it? Or disable it in normal use?
2. If I start a new game, get the upgrade, find the riddle to unlock the map (...sigh...), and get the medals there, will that count towards the trophy if all of my other medals are in a different game file?
3. Any other suggestions for how to get the platinum (eventually) without having to buy the upgrade? I could just do it at the very end, but I kinda like the idea of keeping the save file's posterity intact...
EDIT:
Hyunkel6 said:
What kind of variation bonuses were you getting? They can be pretty huge--nine moves (the max, according to the trophy) gets you 5000 points. So if you can do that each round, that'd be 20,000 points right there.
Hmm, having some troubles getting all three medals on each of the freeflow challenge maps. Are there any useful tips for doing so? Is it just sort of trying to mix it up by doing a lot of variations?
My combos always get fucked up by either a knife guy (I'll accidentally punch him) or a stun rod guy or some random ass that throws boxes at you or, later on, Titans. I've played the Sewer Bat and Shock and Awe map at least a dozen times now, and I can only get 2 medals at best. Grr
My combos always get fucked up by either a knife guy (I'll accidentally punch him) or a stun rod guy or some random ass that throws boxes at you or, later on, Titans. I've played the Sewer Bat and Shock and Awe map at least a dozen times now, and I can only get 2 medals at best. Grr
Just to be sure: there's no way you can plant explosive gel on a surface up high right? I've encountered quite a few spots where I could only see a weak wall high up to get to a Riddler trophy, but maybe I just need to pay more attention to see a different point of entry.
dgenx said:
Since you read Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth, you have to now read Arkham Asylum: Living Hell. Rocksteady lifted many villains and details right from this book. If you like the Joker you should pick up The Man Who Laughs. I always felt it was a better Joker tale than The Killing Joke. The "Joker" comic you mention is also very good. A few other Batman titles you might like are No Man's Land, War Games, and War Crimes. Oh, and can't forget Batman: Year One and The Dark Knight Returns.
Ok question about the end of the final cutscene.
It shows a box of titan floating around and then a hand grabs it. When I saw it, I was positive I saw killer crocs big green scaly hand. And my friend swears he saw Scarecrows needle covered hand. And this youtube vid shows Bane grabbing it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV3WFJ6-fAE
Are there different ending cutscenes, or are we just crazy and seeing things wrong?
Are there different ending cutscenes, or are we just crazy and seeing things wrong?
I found it best to do the following:EzLink said:
whenever there are knife/stun rod guys get up a 5x combo and then use the instant takedown asap to take one of them out. If there are a lot of guys nearby you'll have to punch your way out but unless one of them has a gun they won't hit you in the animation for the instant takedown.
If there are more of those guys when you're keeping your combo if you can't see where the next dude is you're trying to hit either roll or throw a batarang so you don't accidentally attack the knife/stunrods with a normal blow. Once you find them instant takedown them.
When you can try to throw guys away from the pack and then use the ground takedown on them for quick points. Definitely try to do this at the end of the round especially if you have a big combo going.
I also try to bounce around to the guys who are the farthest away from you since that usually takes care of the guys who will throw concrete blocks or try to get guns.
I haven't gotten any insane scores yet but using these and some patience I have gotten a 3 rank on every freeflow map I've tried so far.
This is one game I actually enjoy retrying the challenge maps over and over for higher scores.
evilromero said:
The demo doesn't come close to showing the brilliance of the full game. I've nearly finished it and I can honestly say it's the best game of 2009.
Batman games are generally crap so this feels like a new IP...in that regard I'll call this the best new IP I've played since Left 4 Dead
fistfulofmetal
Banned
WTF. I'm in the Library of the Mansion and there's supposed to be a trophy behind a vent. It's not fucking there. I'm missing one trophy in this building and the map is telling me it's there. Nothing.
edit: Nevermind. it's behind another vent further up. ARG
edit: Nevermind. it's behind another vent further up. ARG
Sure most people figured it out, but some of Harley Quinn's tapes are taken from TNBA episode Mad Love.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_vtn_gv1QM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_vtn_gv1QM
My tips!EzLink said:
If you lose your combo in the first round, quit and start over. It's usually the easiest and the one that's best to get a high variation bonus on. Always go for critical strikes! They'll instantly knock people down, allowing you to circle a room kicking fools in the head and then sweeping them up with some ground takedowns, which are, by far, where you'll score the most massive points (multiplies your counter by 100, so a 40 combo leading into a ground takedown will net you 4,000 points). Don't go in for ground takedowns unless
A.) you're away from the main group, hitting an isolated guy (this usually happens when you go after a dude who's getting a gun or ripping a fuse box off a wall)
or
B.) there are five or less guys left, as you'll have plenty of time this way to knock them all down and then hit one or two with a ground takedown. Just watch for the counter icon, as one guy may get up and rush to you in time
When you get a 5x combo immediately start dropping throws like they're going out of style. Save instant takedowns for knife thugs and stun baton thugs, as they'll rip right through their defenses and remove that obstacle from play. It's usually best to dodge roll out as soon as you finish your special move animation, as there could be some creep behind you, just offscreen, waiting to attack. Note that this strategy doesn't fly in either shock and awe map, as a simple throw won't knock a thug out (and that's sort of the point; the longer they're alive, the higher your combo can get and the more chances you have of doing a ground takedown). The time limit in shock and awe makes it imperative that you knock those guys out as fast as possible, so there I'd recommend you use instant takedowns exclusively.
If you see someone taking something off a wall or going for a gun, get over there as fast as you can. I found it best to get over there by chaining attacks from all the guys in the way, like playing connect the dots. When I tried doing a dodge roll over their heads, Batman always ended up changing direction mid-roll. Basically it caused way more trouble than it was worth.
Easy tip for increasing your variation bonus: open every round by using the batclaw (preferably ultra batclaw). It'll pull some guys toward you and immediately open them up for attack- especially useful if you've caught someone with knives. Don't open with a batclaw if there's a stun baton in the first row of attackers, as pulling one into you will cause Batman to take damage and distort the screen. It'll end your combo immediately and leave you open to attack.
Basically the trick is to string together combos as long as possible. Even without using takedown moves, consider the 10x multiplier you get from a single hit. At a 40 hit combo, you're getting 400 points for each hit landed. Your score will absolutely skyrocket even if you don't pull anything fancy. Criticals are worth 25x I believe (and you should always be aiming for those, always), as are kills for throwing people off of ledges, collateral damage, Titan riding, counters, and batclaw/batarang bonuses.
Your tastes may be different, but I'd recommend you avoid using the batarang. It can help clear an area, but nearly every time I used it I was left with a situation where I'd lose my combo. Batman would throw it in the wrong direction, or it would knock down the closest bad guys and Batman wouldn't leap to attack the ones farther away. Was more trouble than it was worth.
When playing rumble in the jungle extreme, try and get your multiplier as high as possible before jumping onto a downed Titan, as each slap he lands will multiply your counter by 25. Also it's probably best to hover around the right hand side gun box, as a lot of guys seem to go over there and shoot you while you're riding.
You'll be frustrated, especially when Batman does something you don't want him to do. 95% of the time everything will run smoothly, but you'll notice some quirks. Getting caught on walls, not properly prioritizing threats, missing counters... the guy is really showing his age.
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Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
Amir0x said:
So true. Unfortunately, great development teams come and go. I just hope they're still around for a sequel.
Holy Shit,
Yay, finally got the
which means I can head back to the areas before and get the collectables I'm missing. >_<
Doing
(I'm not sure if I should spoiler this one, I mean it's in the achievement description) against the
was hair-raising. It took me like... five tries to get the thing down, and after I got one of them down, I had about 0 HP (like, nothing on the meter) left and the last one alive had a bar or so left. Really REALLY hair-raising to pass it. But I did it, and it's totally sigh-of-relief moment. At least now I can
.
Still a cool game, but it still seems kinda short. :/ (Though I think I'm only 75% or so near the end)
Bat Plane!
Line Launcher,
Doing
mano-a-mano
Titans the Joker unleashes against you
use the batarangs against them for Freakshow Rodeo whenever that opportunity pops up
Still a cool game, but it still seems kinda short. :/ (Though I think I'm only 75% or so near the end)
Vilix said:
I can't see Rocksteady going anywhere. Eidos will want to keep them and promote their next few games as "From the developers of Batman: Arkham Asylum..."
Batman has sold well so far (we almost sold out at work this weekend), it's had some excellent critical praise, and the game is of a very high quality. A sequel is inevitable
Gully State
Member
Dartastic said:
You need to get to the highest ledge in the middle.
The funny thing is I AM on the highest ledge in the middle... or at least I think I am. I'll keep trying. Goddamn Batman is so goddamn good.
Edit - Holy shit, is that ledge all the way on the very top of the screen even REACHABLE? I was standing on the one with the lights and the crumbly bit that you crouch under that's parallel to the dude that falls through the grate and the Riddler challenge piece that's hidden behind that seemingly impossible to blow up wall. Shit. Do I have to go all the way up there?
Edit 2- I just finally got it. That shit was STUPID.
Edit - Holy shit, is that ledge all the way on the very top of the screen even REACHABLE? I was standing on the one with the lights and the crumbly bit that you crouch under that's parallel to the dude that falls through the grate and the Riddler challenge piece that's hidden behind that seemingly impossible to blow up wall. Shit. Do I have to go all the way up there?
Edit 2- I just finally got it. That shit was STUPID.
ToyMachine228
Member
Started dabbling in Challenge Mode and just started a new game. Playing through on Normal again to solve all the Riddler Challenges, and then I'll do a separate playthrough on Hard after. Quick question, how do you catch a Batarang?
fistfulofmetal
Banned
can i get back into the caves from Intensive Treatment after beating the game? I can't find the other ways in
Jeff Stephen
Member
I don't... think so. You could always go through the bat cave and and work your way from there.fistfulofmetal said:
FunnyBunny
Member
I picked up the game yesterday and am about 5% complete. I'm in love.
AlternativeUlster
Absolutely pathetic part deux
What the fuck? I played the demo and thought it was terrible. Might pick this up once it hits the bargain bins since its praise can't be ignored.
The demo is a piece of crap compared to the full game, and in no way demonstrates the genius and greatness of it all. I was only slightly interested in this game after playing the demo, probably was gonna get it on the very cheap, but the gaf praise made me get it and it blew mind. GOTY so far no doubt.AlternativeUlster said:
fistfulofmetal
Banned
K' Dash said:
either way, i got in through the Batcaves and now I need to figure out where in Arkham West the entrance is. I'm in front of an electrified door to Pressure Control Junction and there aren't any hackable panels. I have four things i have to find behind these doors.
edit: Once again I'm dumb. Found the panel and I'm through
Prince of Space
Banned
That's like playing through the space frigate of Metroid Prime and stopping once you get to the planet. The actual game has MUCH more to offer.AlternativeUlster said:
Got the last of the riddles and Spirit of Arkham tablets last night. On to the Challenges!
bigdaddygamebot
Member
Snuggler said:
I played on Hard and I definitely saw
Killer Croc
Him on Venom is a bit distressing.