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Batman Arkham City |OT| Smashin' Faces, Glidin' Places
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Acquiescence
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FantasticMrFoxdie said:
How do you takedown someone again? Is that when you hold R2 and press triangle on a downed opponent? Because every time I attempt to do that move, I'm interrupted by some dude attacking me, so I can never pull it off.
The Xtortionist
Member
Replicant said:
Line launch to the elevator and hit the switch to raise it. Then glide from its highest point to the hostage.
Acquiescence said:
Top face button + right face button
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Replicant said:
Ahh...so it is the same riddle.
I don't remember it very clearly but once you follow the paths all the way there is an elevator that lifts you up. I think you may be missing a switch since it elevates with each switch you hit right? Once your pretty high I think you can glide close then grapnel to the platform? EDIT: Yeah line launch might be the answer. I don't remember if I had the line launch at that time though.
Acquiescence said:
You need some space to pull that one off. Best to do when you have an enemy that's standing off more alone.
Most efficient way to take people down with Batman is probably the Batarang takedown - the special combo finisher where you KO anyone who's on the ground. Just knock a bunch of fools down, unleash that move and they ain't getting back up. Very useful for whittling down larger groups more quickly.
matrix-cat
Member
I'm pretty sure the weapon break is one you buy on a level-up, but it might unlock at a certain point in the game. I can't really remember. When you unlock it it's Square + Triangle (or X and Y). I'm pretty sure you start the game with the Instant Takedown, which is Triangle + Circle.Acquiescence said:
I'm finding the weapon break absolutely invaluable in the Challenge Rooms. In Arkham Asylum you just had to make peace with the fact that those Stun Rods were always going to be there. You'd take out the guys holding them as soon as possible but other guys would just pick them up and before you knew it you'd accidentally Batclawed one of them right over to you.
Now my first priorities in any fight are to break every Shield and Stun Rod and then Freeze Blast the armoured enemies to perform Beatdowns on them after I've thinned the herd. Rolling out of the fight, throwing three Quick Fire Batarangs and punching one or two more dudes and then following up the the Batarang Takedown move can take four or five guys out of a fight immediately, and once you get into Freeflow Focus mode all your gadgets get super powerful. Your REC arcs between like six guys and stuns them all, and your Freeze Blast has a huge area of effect. I'm having so much fun in the Challenge Rooms.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
matrix-cat said:
Holy smokes batman! I need to try that.
The Xtortionist
Member
Replicant said:
There's really nothing to screw up. Just run off the platform while holding A. Maybe you're trying to control it too much?
beat the game's story mode.
wow at
also, conroy and hamill really brought it. i thought hamill was a little rusty in asylum, but his old age and inability to hit the higher notes fit better with a dying joker and he did a great job at making him sound like his health was deteriorating.
i still think it's a shame they didn't bring in other people from the animated series. what's the point of having ra's without david warner? or mr. freeze without michael ansara (although on closer inspection, it looks like he retired 10 years ago)?
the game itself was pretty nice. at the end i liked asylum a bit more, but i'm glad city is here because i get to fly around a city as the goddamn batman, and it's different enough that it doesn't feel like more of the same. the boss battles were better this time too, which was nice to see. the cases in the city are pretty cool too, as repetitive as some are.
wow at
ra's, tallia, hugo strange, and the joker all getting killed off. batman: gotham city is sure going to feel empty. out of all of them, i only liked joker's death. it was reminiscent of his death in return of the joker, and it was sad knowing this was really the end of the conroy/hamill era for good (at least on hamill's end).
also, conroy and hamill really brought it. i thought hamill was a little rusty in asylum, but his old age and inability to hit the higher notes fit better with a dying joker and he did a great job at making him sound like his health was deteriorating.
i still think it's a shame they didn't bring in other people from the animated series. what's the point of having ra's without david warner? or mr. freeze without michael ansara (although on closer inspection, it looks like he retired 10 years ago)?
the game itself was pretty nice. at the end i liked asylum a bit more, but i'm glad city is here because i get to fly around a city as the goddamn batman, and it's different enough that it doesn't feel like more of the same. the boss battles were better this time too, which was nice to see. the cases in the city are pretty cool too, as repetitive as some are.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
I read there were three alternate scenes if you watch the entire credits at the end. Probably setups for Gotham City
Any confirmation on this? I
Killer Croc, Scarecrow, and someone else getting their hands on the TITAN
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Game is awesome, but I almost feel overwhelmed at times. I'll be on my way to a story mission when an urgent sounding side mission pops up, and then I'm off to that.
The AR missions are also tough as heck. I've only completed one set of them. I feel like I've been making progress, but last I checked I only completed 7% of the game.
This sucker is just packed with stuff to do.
The AR missions are also tough as heck. I've only completed one set of them. I feel like I've been making progress, but last I checked I only completed 7% of the game.
This sucker is just packed with stuff to do.
RPGCrazied
Member
FantasticMrFoxdie said:
Nope, nothing.
Buckethead
Banned
I love the riddler physical challenges, hostage rooms, and puzzles.
Makes you think.
Collecting the damn question marks? Not so much.
Makes you think.
Collecting the damn question marks? Not so much.
Conciliator
Banned
Eye Drop said:
Also don't forget about your disruptor. If they see you, throw a smoke pellet and come back around from a different angle.
StevePharma
Member
So GAF, a question.
I beat this game yesterday in two sittings on easy difficulty. I know, laugh at my baby style of playing, but I just wanted to experience the main campaign before all the other titles hit, and will platinum in due time just like Arkham Asylum. (Game was amazing btw but I liked the confined setting of AA better).
The thing is I think I am fucked because New Game+ only opens on beating the main story on Normal/Hard, and it looks like I can't start a New game on the same save slot. I don't mind playing through the game another two times on another slot, but I was starting doing sidequests today when this thought hit me.
In short, will I be able to get the "Perfect Knight: Day 2" trophy on multiple slots or do all the requirements (100%, beating new game plus etc.) have to be met on one slot?
I beat this game yesterday in two sittings on easy difficulty. I know, laugh at my baby style of playing, but I just wanted to experience the main campaign before all the other titles hit, and will platinum in due time just like Arkham Asylum. (Game was amazing btw but I liked the confined setting of AA better).
The thing is I think I am fucked because New Game+ only opens on beating the main story on Normal/Hard, and it looks like I can't start a New game on the same save slot. I don't mind playing through the game another two times on another slot, but I was starting doing sidequests today when this thought hit me.
In short, will I be able to get the "Perfect Knight: Day 2" trophy on multiple slots or do all the requirements (100%, beating new game plus etc.) have to be met on one slot?
Conciliator
Banned
The predator scene at the top of
was brutal. Really tough to get in there and do it legit. I was able to do all but one guy on my second try, but I really felt like I got lucky. Awesome setup though.
Anyone ever have, in a predator sequence
. Happened once for me so it seems like it's not all the time. So cool.
Wonder Tower
Anyone ever have, in a predator sequence
the last guy throw his hands up and surrender?
MarshMellow96
Member
Just finished the main story and it felt like it finished too quickly. I definitely don't think it went along as well as Asylum. Maybe I'm spoiled by Dark Souls or something?
Rated-Rsuperstar
Member
The first hour of the game is amazing. I spent several minutes just staring at the city itself. Since then however, I've gone back to hating the combat. And Batman's just as stupid as ever when it comes to falling for any trap Joker sets.
The English Conquistador
Member
MarshMellow96 said:
I also just finished, and feel similarly. The game seem to go by incredibly fast.
All in all, a really good game, not as mind blowing as people I'd been hearing previously, but still a great game.
Little bummed that there's not much to do once the game is done. The side missions aren't in great quantity, this is especially noticed once the game has been done and several side missions have already been completed during the main game. I have zero interest in the phones, or the ridder trophies, and anything of that nature. I prefer story fueled side quests, and although the ones in the game are good, there's just not enough of them.
Glad I paid £30 for the game tbh.
matrix-cat
Member
I'm pretty sure it all has to be on one save slot. When you look at your stats for a certain save slot it gives you your percentages for your original game and your New Game Plus, so if Easy doesn't have a New Game Plus I doubt you'd be able to get the Trophy.StevePharma said:
I've actually been wondering about that, because it seems like there's no Trophy for beating the game on Hard mode like there was in the first game. Getting Perfect Knight Day 2 would surely be harder to do on Hard mode than it is on Normal, but the Trophies don't really reflect that.
I think the main story is shorter than Arkham Asylum for sure, but the game makes up for it with the side missions and the scope of the city. My last playthrough of AA clocked in at just under eight hours, but that was me knowing exactly where to go and not going out of my way to get Riddler trophies, and I think a similar run through the story of AC would probably be shorter than that.MarshMellow96 said:
The main story ends quite abruptly but some of the side mission endings should count for more than just side missions, if that makes any sense. I feel like those bits would have been part of the main story if AC had followed the same formula as AA.
MarshMellow96
Member
Dabanton said:
I did the main story and most of the side quests. I only have the riddles, assaults, the zsasz stuff and some others to do. I know there's a load of riddles but still.
Strange's death felt like about half way.
matrix-cat, I'm not sure about that. I personally preferred Asylum because it put all of the side missions around the story, rather than divorcing it entirely as it is in City. I don't know why they felt that had to do that - the game isn't really an 'open world' any way you swing it. It's still Batman-y good stuff, but it definitely doesn't feel as considered as Asylum, even with all of the fan nods, etc.
'Congratulations you've unlocked Batman skins oh no wait you don't have any' pissed me off too..
Ok, need some help please.
I've tracked down Zsasz and I'm in the room where he has two hostages in cages. The front door is locked so I go through the vents and then into the main room with the boiling water. I make it to the last section (the landing just after the rotors in the water). I can't for the life of me find a way to get passed this section. I've tried everything, I just keep on falling in the water. I tried the zip line and climbed on some pipes, then whatever I do next I fail and I also tried gliding but it doesn't seem to work in this room. What do I do?
Lifejumper
Member
Lakitu said:
Wait till the water drops then slide under the pipes you will grab on to a ledge.
Eye Drop said:
Follow the laser sights. There was always one sniper that isn't being guarded by another sniper. It's more of a puzzle really. Take out the guy that isn't being covered by another snipers laser scope first. Once I realized that, I took them all about without being spotted.
Calavera520
Member
Zeliard said:
damn I need to try that.
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
hamchan said:
that is, if he unlocked that ability...he might not have yet.
Calavera520 said:
Yeah it's pretty cool. Though I was mistaken about it knocking them down, it just stuns them. Still useful and it comes out quicker and probably does more damage than the Bat Swarm.
I like using a power REC shot then knocking the stunned enemies down with strikes and following it up with a Batarang takedown. Though it's always hard to resist not staying in freeflow focus. :> Especially with Catwoman.
Just finished the main story today, after rushing through the city ignoring screaming people, ringing phones, rooftops banters and glowing question marks.
Things I liked:
-The map doesn't feel five times the size of the asylum. It sure enough does in terms of content though, which is what I longed for. Thank you Rocksteady. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Game of the forever.
-The new moves, expecially the takedown that destroys weapons, are cool and magnify the coreography and the technicality of the hand-to-hand combat. I rarely used the Batarang takedown just so that I could prolong each fight as much as possible. This is how you do a simple yet spectacular and satisfying combat system, Ubisoft Montreal: three Assassin's Creeds and still you refuse to give people fight mechanics that would involve any skill whatsoever.
-Enemy gallery. Encounters where brief alright, but at least you get to face a lot of bat-villains instead of just collecting their memorabilia.
-Bat-dialogue grew on me. I always felt that a Batman who chats too much it's not a true Batman, but here even the WWF-like threats don't feel like cheesy though talk from over-built dudebros. Maybe that's due more to Conroy's capabilities rather than Dini's.
-The music was exceptional. I've played Asylum four times and every time I've played with a custom soundtrack. This time around it seems I will have to use AC soundtrack to play other games. Truly magnificent
-Boss fights were amazing. They required coordination and quick-thinking, and even though they involved patterns I never felt the game required me to die to learn them. Like someone already said a couple of pages ago, reviewers who stated that the boss fights were still unimaginative are plain wrong
Things I absolutely disliked:
-Dear mr Sefton Hill, seriously: if I disable hints in the option menu it means I don't want to be given any hint AT ALL! Who came up with the idea of placing button sequences right in the middle of the screen right in the middle of a fight? You can't disable them, they don't vanish after a while, they keep coming until you clear the relative riddler challenge, how in hell am I supposed to see what happens when everything is covered by text over the screen? This pairs with "I have to get to the Bell tower" "I have to get to the Bell tower", but it's much much more unforgiveable. I had this button sequence stuff happening right in the middle of A BOSS FIGHT! Come on!
Things I sort of disliked:
-The "new" use for the cape stun is kinda meh. I liked that it's been revisited, but now I have to keep in mind that after a cape stun I can't evade (because the game mistakes that for an aerial combo) and I can't strike without getting locked into a beatdown. I got around it and now it doesn't bother me anymore, but, you know, it's called free-flow...
-The music, and this is not a true dislike, is too cool for predator sequences. I mean, every time the score kicks in I can't restrain myself to recklessly abandon cover and punching thugs in the face. Something more moody and creepy would have helped to play slowly and stealthy.
-Too much Joker. The character dominated Asylum, this should have been the chance for Strange and Two Face to steal the stage. Dini can do magic with any character you can give him: as long as he doesn't put Zatanna in a Batman game he will always be Batman's greatest writer.
-The Dark Knight skin: preview pics showed he had eyes. What happened to them? The Year One and the Beyond skin already featured the creepy white corneas, why remove the humanity from a fat, sixty year old, muscle bloated character who had his own flavor? I hope you guys at Rocksteady didn't change that to make him look cooler after reading people where bashing it...
Things I liked:
-The map doesn't feel five times the size of the asylum. It sure enough does in terms of content though, which is what I longed for. Thank you Rocksteady. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Game of the forever.
-The new moves, expecially the takedown that destroys weapons, are cool and magnify the coreography and the technicality of the hand-to-hand combat. I rarely used the Batarang takedown just so that I could prolong each fight as much as possible. This is how you do a simple yet spectacular and satisfying combat system, Ubisoft Montreal: three Assassin's Creeds and still you refuse to give people fight mechanics that would involve any skill whatsoever.
-Enemy gallery. Encounters where brief alright, but at least you get to face a lot of bat-villains instead of just collecting their memorabilia.
-Bat-dialogue grew on me. I always felt that a Batman who chats too much it's not a true Batman, but here even the WWF-like threats don't feel like cheesy though talk from over-built dudebros. Maybe that's due more to Conroy's capabilities rather than Dini's.
-The music was exceptional. I've played Asylum four times and every time I've played with a custom soundtrack. This time around it seems I will have to use AC soundtrack to play other games. Truly magnificent
-Boss fights were amazing. They required coordination and quick-thinking, and even though they involved patterns I never felt the game required me to die to learn them. Like someone already said a couple of pages ago, reviewers who stated that the boss fights were still unimaginative are plain wrong
Things I absolutely disliked:
-Dear mr Sefton Hill, seriously: if I disable hints in the option menu it means I don't want to be given any hint AT ALL! Who came up with the idea of placing button sequences right in the middle of the screen right in the middle of a fight? You can't disable them, they don't vanish after a while, they keep coming until you clear the relative riddler challenge, how in hell am I supposed to see what happens when everything is covered by text over the screen? This pairs with "I have to get to the Bell tower" "I have to get to the Bell tower", but it's much much more unforgiveable. I had this button sequence stuff happening right in the middle of A BOSS FIGHT! Come on!
Things I sort of disliked:
-The "new" use for the cape stun is kinda meh. I liked that it's been revisited, but now I have to keep in mind that after a cape stun I can't evade (because the game mistakes that for an aerial combo) and I can't strike without getting locked into a beatdown. I got around it and now it doesn't bother me anymore, but, you know, it's called free-flow...
-The music, and this is not a true dislike, is too cool for predator sequences. I mean, every time the score kicks in I can't restrain myself to recklessly abandon cover and punching thugs in the face. Something more moody and creepy would have helped to play slowly and stealthy.
-Too much Joker. The character dominated Asylum, this should have been the chance for Strange and Two Face to steal the stage. Dini can do magic with any character you can give him: as long as he doesn't put Zatanna in a Batman game he will always be Batman's greatest writer.
-The Dark Knight skin: preview pics showed he had eyes. What happened to them? The Year One and the Beyond skin already featured the creepy white corneas, why remove the humanity from a fat, sixty year old, muscle bloated character who had his own flavor? I hope you guys at Rocksteady didn't change that to make him look cooler after reading people where bashing it...
British Monsoon
Member
I hate the knife wielding enemies, fucking bullshit. I know how to do the counter (left stick away + hold triangle, but let go and re-hold for every swipe) but it's an unnecessarily complex manoeuvre, especially when you're in the middle of a fight and the game gives you pretty much zero opportunity to practice. The game definitely needs a combat practice room where you can set the number of enemies and what weapons they have.
All this talk about the story feeling a little short has me concerned I might be finishing up sooner than I thought. I've really only played for one sitting. I just finished up the
section. About how far would you say I am?
Up until this point, the story has felt rather pressing, so I haven't done any exploration or side missions at all. I think I've done two AR missions. I kind of hate when open world games make you feel rushed to do the story, but if I've still got a good chunk of game left then it should start going a little better
Ra's
Up until this point, the story has felt rather pressing, so I haven't done any exploration or side missions at all. I think I've done two AR missions. I kind of hate when open world games make you feel rushed to do the story, but if I've still got a good chunk of game left then it should start going a little better