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Batman Arkham City |OT| Smashin' Faces, Glidin' Places
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BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
This may sound weird, but this game reminds me of a 3D revival of Phantom 2040 on SNES. Both games are rather open world superhero games set in very dark cities...
BeautifulMemory
Member
Hi Rocksteady,
/Using Catwoman
You really need to re-think what you consider to be a "challenge" in terms of the combat challenges. I get that we need variety and the players need to think on our feet, but can you please not put bunch of enemies all together in one big plump where they cannot be hit directly? Yes, I am talking about the baton and shield guys. It gets BS when there are many of them standing around, and you have to worry about getting shanked, and you have to worry about, oh I don't know, the fucking Titans and the one armed-dude that will ambush you. Nothing is more frustrating to get combos broken simply because they cannot be hit, what kind of stupid idea is that? Yes, I know I need to go around them, but again, when there are so many of them, and that when there are that many around the regular enemies will turtle behind them --- so I am limited in my counters and attacks.
Oh, and I know it's cool to design AI that will run to the FAR corner and throw boxes. That's fine, just don't make it so that when I am already doing a critical strike on them and that fucking box/extinguisher still hit me. If I am dashing toward the enemy and are in-motion/animation of attacking, that fucking box should not hit me, since I already kicked the guy. Oh, and my attacks still get whiffed randomly even though there is an enemy next to me, fix that, please. You can't have a challenge that's combat/combo based and have shit like that running around
Oh, and I know it's cool to design AI that will run to the FAR corner and throw boxes. That's fine, just don't make it so that when I am already doing a critical strike on them and that fucking box/extinguisher still hit me. If I am dashing toward the enemy and are in-motion/animation of attacking, that fucking box should not hit me, since I already kicked the guy. Oh, and my attacks still get whiffed randomly even though there is an enemy next to me, fix that, please. You can't have a challenge that's combat/combo based and have shit like that running around
/Using Catwoman
BeautifulMemory
Member
AEREC said:
You gotta do it quickly. Spam it.
I don't know what else to add. I feel you stated it great. I love the fact that it feels larger. I feel truly like Batman going around the city and doing side missions. Or fighting people. The city has plenty of detail, and little details such ascackhyena said:
the Wayne's tribute
I do want some side missions desperately..
Side topic: Does anybody know when we should expect a Dark Knight Rises trailer? I'm avoiding the shit out of the spoiler thread.
Mortrialus
Banned
I haven't picked up the game yet, can anyone answer a few questions?
My biggest complaint about Batman Arkam Asylum was that the enemy variety was really, really lack luster. There were a lot of complaints about the combat becoming stale in the previous game and I believe the main cause was the lack of enemies requiring drastically different tactics. Did they improve upon that?
Also, another complaint I had with the first game was that the placement of the gadgets felt haphazard and anticlimactic. Did they improve upon that?
My biggest complaint about Batman Arkam Asylum was that the enemy variety was really, really lack luster. There were a lot of complaints about the combat becoming stale in the previous game and I believe the main cause was the lack of enemies requiring drastically different tactics. Did they improve upon that?
Also, another complaint I had with the first game was that the placement of the gadgets felt haphazard and anticlimactic. Did they improve upon that?
BeautifulMemory
Member
Mortrialus said:
Everything in this game is an improvement, or an attempt of, from the last game. Whether you like the approaches to certain things, you will see that previous grievances are acknowledged and limitations addressed
So yes and yes.
BeautifulMemory
Member
bubnbob said:
I really like using Batman better...although her ground whip = omg
SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
Man, he's in Batman: The Brave and The Bold and he's fucking awesome, that's all I care about.HK-47 said:
Maybe stupid question because I'm not that well versed with the Batman universe but can anybody give some insight on this: What is Arkham City and how did it become the place it is in the game? Google search brings nothing but info about the game :/ I ask because in the game you can actually go to the place where
For me it is a bit odd that given their wealth they would go to such a shady place?!
Batman's parents died
SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
Arkham City was built within the 6 months after the AA went to hell, all from Strange'sBollocks said:
& Sharps & Ra's
akilshohen
Member
Funny, I beat him last night. I've only got the grid to pop up once. The time i beat him I never got the suit analysis. I still don't see how to get thekr2t0s said:
zip line and explosive gel takedowns
This plot is getting silly, how was Quinn able to get the cure? Why is Batman still helping Freeze after that battle?? I WAS PISSED
canadian crowe
Member
So why was
Quinn tied up at the end of the game?
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Finished it yesterday and it was really good. Not sure if I like it better than Arkham Asylum though. I'll play it again when I have the time. Definitely my game of the year so far but I haven't played many new games this year so the competition is light so far: Dragon Age 2 (shit), LA Noire (shit) and Deus Ex (decent).
Square Triangle
Member
canadian crowe said:
One of the best parts of the game
Taping and untaping her mouth was hilarious
canadian crowe
Member
Ah that didn't even occur to me.bubnbob said:
Fantastic game though. Haven't enjoyed a game this much since RDR.
Lord_Byron28
Member
Gameplay 8.5/10
It is extremely fun and a thoroughly thought out system that you've come to expect from Batman Arkham Asylum. There are some new additions to gameplay to keep things exciting. There is a wealth of content to keep you engaged if you're interested. The bosses also improve dramatically over it's predecesor. However, there are a few kinks that Rocksteady still needs to work out. For example I don't always have total control over who I want to attack in a crowd so I may accidentaly hit someone with a stun baton instead of someone right next to him who was unarmed. Like the previous game I believe Detective mode is unbalanced and offers an unfair advantage. Another minor annoyance that occured with the game is there were sometimes I felt like exploring and completing some of the sidequests but Batman would not stop repeating that I must go somewhere else. It felt the game kept pushing me quickly along the main story which felt was counter intuitive to the massive amounts of sidequests in the game.
Catwoman played well and was a nice change of pace. However, her sequences were so short with inconsistent pacing that it felt a little disconjointed at times. The challenge maps and post game content are fun but leaves a little more to be desired from.
Story 8.0/10
The story is for the most part well written. The story is interesting and I'm sure will please Batman fans. However, there are a few character inconsistencies. Characters act out of character for no given reason and seem to never show this side of their character throughout the plot. There is also one major gaping plot hole that is left unanswered at the end of the game.
Sound 9/10
The voice acting is superb as is the music in this game. I don't see much in the way of issues with these. There was one big flaw that occured occasionally where two or three characters would start talking at the same time meaning that you could miss out on vital information because a thug, Harley and Joker all decided to start talking at the same time.
Graphics 9.5/10
One of the best looking 360 games I've seen. It is truly remarkable with the graphics and what Rocksteady was able to achieve. I marked it down just 0.5 for the rare instance that it froze for a second or two.
Presentation 10/10
The package is remarkable. Rocksteady did a great job in capturing the essence of Batman. They captured the feeling of being Batman much better than any other Batman game before.
Overall 8.5/10
Reviewer's note:
Overall the game was good. The attention of detail and easter eggs Rocksteady threw in will keep fans discovering new things for weeks after. I'll say that this game has a distinctly different feel from AA. While AA had more of a Metroidvania style game with a more focused and compact single player, AC has a slightly more open world style game. It comes down to personal preference what the player might prefer. I feel that Rocksteady should've focused more on the main story than the sidequests. Most of the sidequests are fun but I feel the main quest was a little short and felt like something was missing. The parts missing were the sidequests which filled in a lot of the blanks in the plot. Overall the game gets a passing grade from me. It didn't go above and beyond expectations in any area except for the sidequests but it certainly made measurable advancements over it's predecesor which was a great game as well. I can't wait to see what Rocksteady has planned next.
It is extremely fun and a thoroughly thought out system that you've come to expect from Batman Arkham Asylum. There are some new additions to gameplay to keep things exciting. There is a wealth of content to keep you engaged if you're interested. The bosses also improve dramatically over it's predecesor. However, there are a few kinks that Rocksteady still needs to work out. For example I don't always have total control over who I want to attack in a crowd so I may accidentaly hit someone with a stun baton instead of someone right next to him who was unarmed. Like the previous game I believe Detective mode is unbalanced and offers an unfair advantage. Another minor annoyance that occured with the game is there were sometimes I felt like exploring and completing some of the sidequests but Batman would not stop repeating that I must go somewhere else. It felt the game kept pushing me quickly along the main story which felt was counter intuitive to the massive amounts of sidequests in the game.
Catwoman played well and was a nice change of pace. However, her sequences were so short with inconsistent pacing that it felt a little disconjointed at times. The challenge maps and post game content are fun but leaves a little more to be desired from.
Story 8.0/10
The story is for the most part well written. The story is interesting and I'm sure will please Batman fans. However, there are a few character inconsistencies. Characters act out of character for no given reason and seem to never show this side of their character throughout the plot. There is also one major gaping plot hole that is left unanswered at the end of the game.
Sound 9/10
The voice acting is superb as is the music in this game. I don't see much in the way of issues with these. There was one big flaw that occured occasionally where two or three characters would start talking at the same time meaning that you could miss out on vital information because a thug, Harley and Joker all decided to start talking at the same time.
Graphics 9.5/10
One of the best looking 360 games I've seen. It is truly remarkable with the graphics and what Rocksteady was able to achieve. I marked it down just 0.5 for the rare instance that it froze for a second or two.
Presentation 10/10
The package is remarkable. Rocksteady did a great job in capturing the essence of Batman. They captured the feeling of being Batman much better than any other Batman game before.
Overall 8.5/10
Reviewer's note:
Overall the game was good. The attention of detail and easter eggs Rocksteady threw in will keep fans discovering new things for weeks after. I'll say that this game has a distinctly different feel from AA. While AA had more of a Metroidvania style game with a more focused and compact single player, AC has a slightly more open world style game. It comes down to personal preference what the player might prefer. I feel that Rocksteady should've focused more on the main story than the sidequests. Most of the sidequests are fun but I feel the main quest was a little short and felt like something was missing. The parts missing were the sidequests which filled in a lot of the blanks in the plot. Overall the game gets a passing grade from me. It didn't go above and beyond expectations in any area except for the sidequests but it certainly made measurable advancements over it's predecesor which was a great game as well. I can't wait to see what Rocksteady has planned next.
So very similar to TDK style promotion? I'll be there for the trailer, I don't want to see a scene 7 months before. Will watch the movie in Imax.suaveric said:
I cheated, already have my achievement. They aren't worth all that effort to go on the day, they are definitely enjoyable but not really substantial. But might as well do it tomorrow, then maybe cheat after
YoungBuck219
Neo Member
Still didn't finish it.
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
Fuck this perfect combo shit!
I do all of the moves but one, and when I'm going to do it, this magic motherfucker either kicks me from 15ft away or ice-skates his ass 30ft to punch me in the back, knocking me out of my combo.
And the trophy description is wrong; it says you can do it in ANY play mode, so I tried it in the custom challenge with the aggressive enemies (so they'd last longer), did it -- miraculously -- and didn't get shit.
Batman is getting upset!
I do all of the moves but one, and when I'm going to do it, this magic motherfucker either kicks me from 15ft away or ice-skates his ass 30ft to punch me in the back, knocking me out of my combo.
And the trophy description is wrong; it says you can do it in ANY play mode, so I tried it in the custom challenge with the aggressive enemies (so they'd last longer), did it -- miraculously -- and didn't get shit.
Batman is getting upset!
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
You missed something, all combat moves doesn't include gadgets. Only gadget you need to use is the batclaw but you have to do the batclaw beatdown closeline maneuver. you need to doRyanardoDaVinci said:
Stun
Triple stun
Redirect
Dodge
Ground takedown
regular hit
counter
batclaw slam
stun beatdown
stun jump where you jump up on their head.
black_vegeta
Member
Ilive1up said:
Yuppers! I was going to cheat, but since Halloween was right around the corner, I figured I might as well do it right.
I recently beat
Solomon Grundy and the Penguin
I'm now in the sewers chasing down the League of Assassins.
ChocolateCupcakes
Member
Does he say something special on holidays? I noticed that the calender near him had holidays circled but I didn't think much of it.Ilive1up said:
BeautifulMemory
Member
ChocolateCupcakes said:
He does --- but I stopped spoiling myself. If you want, it's on youtube or you can find out yourself by manipulating the system's clock
cpp_is_king
Member
Man I think I really suck at this game. I'm working on Combat Challenges and it's fucking hard as hell for me to just get 3 medals, much less get some of the crazy scores I see in videos or see people posting about. Been trying for like 3 hours on Funhouse Brawl (normal) and my high score is like 31,000. The armored guys and guys with shield break my combo almost every single time.
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
LAUGHTREY said:
THE BEATDOWN!
AAAAUUUUGUUHHGHGHGH!
ChocolateCupcakes
Member
You're probably better than me. I'm only about 15% through the storyline and my Batman looks like crap (two bloody knees, multiple rips, a gunshot hole).cpp_is_king said:
This game still does that thing with as the night progresses you see the suit tearing and stubble and stuff right?
cpp_is_king
Member
neorej said:
To be fair, there is a PSN trophy / Xbox Achievement for doing it on the 12 holidays.