The way I look at it is that Asylum, while it may not hold up as well as City, is the "best" Batman game for it's time. The context in which it was released (it's impact and influence) counts just as much to me as some of the improvements and refinements made in sequels. Going open(ish) world with City was the logical next step but after three open Batman games I can't help but feel nostalgic for the Die Hard-ness of Asylum.
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Batman: Arkham Knight |OT| Protect Gotham Racing
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So just got finished with the main story, did quite a bit of the sidemissions during that and ended up at 87% completion so far. Had a really good time with the game. Actually liked the tank battles, they were fun, except the cobra ones, those became a chore.
Midway through the game I thought to myself "hmm, I think I'm going to 100% this game, it's great", until I got to the third Azrael mission, I'm just not good enough to be able to do those without getting hit, so I'm probably going to drop it now.
Storywise, really, really predictable on pretty much every story beat, and honestly, I'd rather take predictable, than devs going for the "haha, shocked you!" bullshit turnarounds that's so prevalent in games.
Played the Harley and Batgirl story packs, and I'd really like more of those. Short, story related missions with sidecharacters, but I see quite a few have taken issue with them being so short, I liked them, didn't become a chore, and made me want more.
All in all, I'd rate it above Witcher 3, had much more fun with the side missions in this.
Midway through the game I thought to myself "hmm, I think I'm going to 100% this game, it's great", until I got to the third Azrael mission, I'm just not good enough to be able to do those without getting hit, so I'm probably going to drop it now.
Storywise, really, really predictable on pretty much every story beat, and honestly, I'd rather take predictable, than devs going for the "haha, shocked you!" bullshit turnarounds that's so prevalent in games.
Played the Harley and Batgirl story packs, and I'd really like more of those. Short, story related missions with sidecharacters, but I see quite a few have taken issue with them being so short, I liked them, didn't become a chore, and made me want more.
All in all, I'd rate it above Witcher 3, had much more fun with the side missions in this.
El_Cinefilo
Member
Has Rocksteady said how much money you save by buying the season pass? I'm kind of interested in the Batgirl DLC for £5.99 and if that's as good as it gets I don't want to put down the full £32.99 for the season pass. I also don't want to end up buying all the DLC separately and paying £50+, if the saving is quite small I don't mind just picking and choosing DLC when I want to separately .
The only Azrael mission I had issues with was the one with two brutes, the ones after that are very doable.
Diablohead
Member
VyechnayaSlava
Member
So, I finally got all of those damn Riddler trophies. Ugh. Still, liked the game overall with some of the same gripes that you guys have: https://youtu.be/-RMu8Yb5HJw
semiconscious
Member
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Not sure if this applies to Arkham Knight, but I hated that in City you could come across a riddle puzzle but not be sure if you have all the upgrades required to unlock it?
Like,I don't want to waste time banging my head against a puzzle only to find out I need some batarang upgrade that I haven't unlocked yet.
So now I just wait till the end if the game to do all that stuff.
VyechnayaSlava
Member
I think i remember a few like that in Knight, though honestly i just got annoyed with mid mission trophies and put them all off at a certain point.
Thanks for the response. I just saw this now. I had read that workaround but yeah, I pretty much boned myself unless I do all the Riddler trophies. All in all, I'm not too mad about it, I have about 80 left to go and they are going pretty fast but some of them can be extremely annoying to even find and even then you have to figure out how to get it. I don't feel pissed but it is an incredible amount of BS to put up with.
I was really ready to be done with this game though when I had finished the 13th most wanted criminal. I actually thought I had beat the game and I had text my friend asking him if he had gotten any credits and he responded that he did and that I would know for sure if I had beaten the game. This has extended my play through of the game by about a week so far. I'm having a mild amount of fun but it is super lame that I am spending most of my night just finding all the riddler trophies to unlock even the normal ending.
Quick question I know there's a true ending that you need 100% so that means all collectibles including riddler ones too?
Do I need 3 stars on all AR challenges as well? Is there a point of no return so I need to be 100% on all the side missions first?
I did it for Asylum and City just wondering. No spoilers please.
Do I need 3 stars on all AR challenges as well? Is there a point of no return so I need to be 100% on all the side missions first?
I did it for Asylum and City just wondering. No spoilers please.
Spring-Loaded
Member
Thank you. Just a clarification can I beat the game and then go back and get the collectibles and the get the true ending?
Spring-Loaded
Member
yes
There's "beating the game" conclusion, then the ending that you must initiate (it'll be clear what that is) after locking up a certain number of villains , then you get the prologue by initiating the ending once you get 100%
Those turrets will be powered by a separate console, probably on one of the roofs.
I have %100 on all missions except for the riddler trophies. I can't believe I need to find them all to get the true ending, I really hate the scavenger hunt. Bad enough I haven't had the patience to solve his "scanning environment" riddles.
I absolutely loved Asylum and City. It's a shame this game makes me loath it so much. Why would Riddler care about Bat's car so much? Why save Catwoman
Where was
? Why is it that I've put these hard earned points into combo moves and their such a pain in the ass to pull off and only when the prompt shows on screen? Don't get me started on the near end
The moves are just not very intuitive.
:-D I realize I'm just nitpicking at this point, but it just feels like something is missing from this game and too much focus has gone into batmobile and a complicated arsenal that is %40 useless in a battle (I only say this because you should be able to use them when you want on a whim).
There's some great things and story telling mechanics that makes this game beautiful at times, but most of the time it makes me want to punch a bat shaped hole in a wall.
I absolutely loved Asylum and City. It's a shame this game makes me loath it so much. Why would Riddler care about Bat's car so much? Why save Catwoman
only to never see her again in the story? At least in City you control her for quite a while.
Nightwing as backup to save Tim in the final
fight on GCPD where Barb says "go to the vents" that do nothing while you're being chased. Had I not snuck back and forth and planted bombs for goons to run into, I'd still be stuck on that area... As it never said how to spring the vent trap.
:-D I realize I'm just nitpicking at this point, but it just feels like something is missing from this game and too much focus has gone into batmobile and a complicated arsenal that is %40 useless in a battle (I only say this because you should be able to use them when you want on a whim).
There's some great things and story telling mechanics that makes this game beautiful at times, but most of the time it makes me want to punch a bat shaped hole in a wall.
stn
Member
Just beat it finally. Final score of 8/10. Why not more?
Agree? Disagree?
-Having to grind trophies for the true ending is a chore
-Batmobile brake system needs work
-Worst boss fights of the whole series
-Arkham Knight's story needs work. The last you see of him is lame. I know he helps Batman but it would have been nice to see a last cutscene with him
-Batmobile brake system needs work
-Worst boss fights of the whole series
-Arkham Knight's story needs work. The last you see of him is lame. I know he helps Batman but it would have been nice to see a last cutscene with him
Agree? Disagree?
VyechnayaSlava
Member
Posted on another page, but yeah: https://youtu.be/-RMu8Yb5HJw
I brought up a lot of the same points in my review. That being said, not really a fan of rating on a number scale (Which is why I call it an Arbitrary Number Rating in my review)
Flying Toaster
Member
RellyRell28
Banned
Okay so there's the
Knightfall Ending then get 100% unlocks the true ending? Also should I wait to 100% then do the Knightfall ending or is there going to be another prompt for the true ending. Don't want to get the knightfall ending early and be locked out of the true ending. Also yay Barbera isn't dead
You can't get locked out of the true ending, the game just bumps you back to the open world and tells you there's more you can do afterwards.
Thanks, brother. Got it.
Barrow Roll
Member
Is there any way to speak to
and
after beating the game?
Robin
Gordon
RellyRell28
Banned
Cool
Majima Everywhere System
Member
This game has issues. That said, some of the camera work coming out of cutescenes and arm conversations is the most superhero cinematic stuff I've ever seen.
The game was impressive to look at on many occasions. I'm glad I played it.
Second best feature was Batman growling cheesy lines at people when you finally take them down. Oh my, some of those were perfect. Then he would always hilariously squish their faces.
The game was impressive to look at on many occasions. I'm glad I played it.
Second best feature was Batman growling cheesy lines at people when you finally take them down. Oh my, some of those were perfect. Then he would always hilariously squish their faces.
Spring-Loaded
Member
# of points needed to upgrade and/or "new upgrade" icon?
Is this the orange icon you mention?:
I think so, although it's next to specific upgrades, and it won't disappear even when I buy said upgrades.# of points needed to upgrade and/or "new upgrade" icon?
Is this the orange icon you mention?:
Spring-Loaded
Member
It should go away once you exit the upgrade window and go back to it.
Yellow icons indicate that they're purchasable. Red means you don't have enough points to purchase it. Some upgrades are gated behind other ones. Like below:
I know I'm very late to be commenting on this stuff, as it was probably done very early on in the thread, but I never checked in due to avoiding spoilers, but the way the camera is used to convey
is fucking brilliant.
Batman's hallucinations with Joker
Move the camera and a billboard has Joker's face on it. "Wait-did I see that right?"
Move back and it's normal.
Move back and it's normal.
I'm fighting the Arkham Knight's super tank right now and what in the world is with the camera when you exit battle mode with the batmobile in this fight? It zooms waaaaaay the hell out and I can't see shit when I try to escape the super tank each time I hit its coolant tanks and piss it off. Is there any get the camera to act like normal when I'm driving the batmobile in car mode or a better way to get away from the super tank?
ElephantShell
Banned
Just have to finish NG+ for the plat. Combat is a lot more fun and satisfying on knightmare difficulty and it makes me wish I had done my first play through like that.
Riddler trophies definitely became a chore. I wish they could figure out a way to make grinding those out more entertaining.
Riddler trophies definitely became a chore. I wish they could figure out a way to make grinding those out more entertaining.
Spring-Loaded
Member
Switch to first-person
Seven Force
Banned
Sat down and did a good chunk of the Riddler challenges/trophies/riddles today. Got up to that final race everyone seems to hate, and only had to reset once. It was kinds fun, actually (Aside from the kinda retarded idea of Riddler building racetracks in the first place).
Like with City, going after the trophies is a lot less daunting than it seems at first. Blew through about 117 riddles today. Probably going to finish them up tomorrow and start getting the collectables in the Batgirl DLC. Haven't touched NG+ yet because I'm waiting for the 1970s skin to drop before diving in to a new playthrough.
Like with City, going after the trophies is a lot less daunting than it seems at first. Blew through about 117 riddles today. Probably going to finish them up tomorrow and start getting the collectables in the Batgirl DLC. Haven't touched NG+ yet because I'm waiting for the 1970s skin to drop before diving in to a new playthrough.
That worked. Thanks
SJRB
Gold Member
Absolutely, highly underrated part. Whoever came up with this idea is a genius.
I really enjoyed that part a lot, I love how it gets worse as the game progresses. Some stuff was genuinely creepy, like the
statue faces. If you look to the right of Wayne Tower to the suspension bridge with the huge statue, sometimes a blinding lightning bolt will strike that changes the statue into Joker for a split second.
First time I saw that I totally freaked out.
RedAssedApe
Banned
think this is a 8/10 for me as well. some really fun bits but pacing was dragged down by the batmobile tank segments and also some awful and anti-climatic boss fights. game is gorgeous and navigating the open world was fun and you could get around really efficiently without needing quick travel.
i think open world games are starting to get a bit tiresome for me in general though. side missions get stale quick and feel like collect-a-thons. was not motivated to finish a lot of them even with the draw of the "true ending". blah...just watched it on yt instead. rather just blow through the story missions...which some might say kind of defeats the purpose of having open world?
i think open world games are starting to get a bit tiresome for me in general though. side missions get stale quick and feel like collect-a-thons. was not motivated to finish a lot of them even with the draw of the "true ending". blah...just watched it on yt instead. rather just blow through the story missions...which some might say kind of defeats the purpose of having open world?
I think it's not even limited to billboards. I was gliding around, saw a huge statue and saw that it had
Joker's face / face paint
CanUKlehead
Member
Just finished last night. Just my $0.02.
6/10 for me. If I think about it too hard, I'd maybe give it a 5.
It's a technical masterpiece; the city is huge and there are tons to do. That basically saved the game for me,
But I downgraded it primarily because I hate the Batmobile. Not so much the vehicle in-game, but more because they just tried to shoehorn that into everything. I felt like it broke up the pace of the action a little too much for my tastes.
I thought the drone fights
were boring as all hell.
I love the early twist
and overall, the story was fine (especially the very end
) as well. Though I did have a problem with who the Arkham Knight was
.
Not a bad game, but if I knew just how much Batmobile there was, I wouldn't have bothered, quite honestly. I liked it as a general vehicle to go around in, and I was fine with a couple of tank battles, but otherwise, I didn't need that.
If you didn't mind it, God bless you. You are an infinitely more patient person than I am.
Quite honestly, I went back and redownloaded Arkham City from my PS+ list and am effectively using it to wash out the bad taste the game left. (As an aside: I can definitely see how much they progressed graphically and gameplay wise)
Last time I angrily finished a game because I was so disappointed was Assassin's Creed III. Not as bad as that game (AK has a lot more redeeming qualities) but overall, while a competent game, I was dissappointed. And I wasn't even too-too hyped for it!
Again, just my personal opinion and preferences.
6/10 for me. If I think about it too hard, I'd maybe give it a 5.
It's a technical masterpiece; the city is huge and there are tons to do. That basically saved the game for me,
But I downgraded it primarily because I hate the Batmobile. Not so much the vehicle in-game, but more because they just tried to shoehorn that into everything. I felt like it broke up the pace of the action a little too much for my tastes.
I can't believe how many times I had to drag that POS all over the place: on the rootops, underground
and especially the hide and seek game with the Cloudburst tank
I love the early twist
with the Joker's commentary
with Batman having to unmask
if only because I was disappointed that they rehashed the old Red Hood story, so I saw it coming the moment they had the first Jason Todd hallucination. I suppose they can only change up the traditional Batman story so much (they did kill the Joker after all), but still
Not a bad game, but if I knew just how much Batmobile there was, I wouldn't have bothered, quite honestly. I liked it as a general vehicle to go around in, and I was fine with a couple of tank battles, but otherwise, I didn't need that.
If you didn't mind it, God bless you. You are an infinitely more patient person than I am.
Quite honestly, I went back and redownloaded Arkham City from my PS+ list and am effectively using it to wash out the bad taste the game left. (As an aside: I can definitely see how much they progressed graphically and gameplay wise)
Last time I angrily finished a game because I was so disappointed was Assassin's Creed III. Not as bad as that game (AK has a lot more redeeming qualities) but overall, while a competent game, I was dissappointed. And I wasn't even too-too hyped for it!
Again, just my personal opinion and preferences.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
I think 7 or 7.5 is a fair score overall. The game looks good and the combat is still solid and the main story at least on the Scarecrow's end was decent and there's stuff to do but the side content IMO is a "your mileage may vary" sort of thing. I had fun but I think it could've been better, I do wish there was more to do outside the side stories, all those thugs running about and really nothing to do with them outside Riddler informants. I think the game could've used from random encounters/events even if they'd repeat themselves, from muggings to hostage situations to whatever to break things up. With so much area available they could've done something interesting with some randomly generated encounters. It was absolutely ridiculous that an entire city is cleared out in 24 hours and no one stayed behind besides the criminals including the big ones who knew what Scarecrow was up to yet stuck around to their own detriment. Are the three islands meant to be the entirety of Gotham? Because the mainland looks quite busy on the one end and not enough places to live on the three islands that are relatively small. Admittedly GTA and other open world games have spoiled me.
The Arkham Knight's identity as I think already said here, was far too obvious and at least to me, they completely gave it away in the first meeting of him from his
but then they procede to bash it over your head like the
hell I was coming up with twists I was hoping for as the end because I couldn't believe they'd make it so obvious but none of them came. By the end of the game I'm still not sure how the Arkham Knight came about his army or anything really in terms of resources that I guess
Besides the core story everything else was a like another repetitive collectathon of some manner that was treated as nothing but padding with zero imaginative thought put into it. I know some liked the Riddler trophies and all that but I think it would've been better served for the third game to do away with them (even if replaced with something else) and had Riddler be the one who gets busted in short order with a Batman not interested in playing his stupid games yet again. It was cool playing other characters for what very, very little we had the chance to, well except
since he was a total Batman clone, as poorly utilized the side villains were, the it was even worse on the hero side after all the hype. Also felt like they didn't even try with boss fights.
The Batmobile, I didn't mind it as much as many but it's been a while since I've encountered such a forced mechanic/gimmick that despite not hating it got bored of it and yeah it's amazing that the Riddler just so happened to do all these things that just so happen to work with and require this Batmobile, that goes for other areas of the environment that just so happened to pop up. I think I actually liked what Monolith did with the combat system more than what Rocksteady has done with this iteration, especially when it comes to upgrades that let you keep your combos going for a while after your current combat finished, of course not that it really matter since combat outside story/side missions is so inconsequential. For all the shit Superman gets for being over powered the game highlights just how out matched so many of Batman's rogues are, they couldn't even come up with ways to them interesting to fight.
Back to the Batmobile, they obviously spent a lot of time with it and it feels like that's where much of the attention was placed on in trying to make it fun and perhaps kept working on it to where it feels like they tried shoving it down our throats in an attempt to justify the work they put in on it. I likened it to Poochie from the Simpsons (as a spoof on shows trying to freshen themselves up with a new character that's poorly received) a while ago and I think it still stands. I think it should've been kept in small doses because it wasn't an interesting enough mechanic to design so much of the game around.
EDIT: Wow, after writing all that it doesn't read like a 7.5 or 7... But I did have fun and do look forward to playing it again whenever the mess gets worked out with the PC version. Oh and yes the
I guess I was more disappointed than I thought but over all it continues the tradition of trilogies with disappointing final parts.
Not only that but, at least on my PC, response time goes to shit too with what feels like slowdown and sluggishness without the frame rate dropping.
The Arkham Knight's identity as I think already said here, was far too obvious and at least to me, they completely gave it away in the first meeting of him from his
calling Batman "old man"
Joker with a crowbar as the game goes on and yet Batman still can't figure it out and I imagine had I not been at least semi-versed in the comics it might've been a little less obvious so early but it's disappointing that suspicion (on my end and others) on his identity was spot on so long before release,
the Joker some how put together. Did the have a shitload of money stashed somewhere for him or something?
Azrael
The Batmobile, I didn't mind it as much as many but it's been a while since I've encountered such a forced mechanic/gimmick that despite not hating it got bored of it and yeah it's amazing that the Riddler just so happened to do all these things that just so happen to work with and require this Batmobile, that goes for other areas of the environment that just so happened to pop up. I think I actually liked what Monolith did with the combat system more than what Rocksteady has done with this iteration, especially when it comes to upgrades that let you keep your combos going for a while after your current combat finished, of course not that it really matter since combat outside story/side missions is so inconsequential. For all the shit Superman gets for being over powered the game highlights just how out matched so many of Batman's rogues are, they couldn't even come up with ways to them interesting to fight.
Back to the Batmobile, they obviously spent a lot of time with it and it feels like that's where much of the attention was placed on in trying to make it fun and perhaps kept working on it to where it feels like they tried shoving it down our throats in an attempt to justify the work they put in on it. I likened it to Poochie from the Simpsons (as a spoof on shows trying to freshen themselves up with a new character that's poorly received) a while ago and I think it still stands. I think it should've been kept in small doses because it wasn't an interesting enough mechanic to design so much of the game around.
EDIT: Wow, after writing all that it doesn't read like a 7.5 or 7... But I did have fun and do look forward to playing it again whenever the mess gets worked out with the PC version. Oh and yes the
Joker stuff, might've been what helped save the game though I wish we got more interaction with Harley beyond her 10-20 minute appearance in the story.
Not only that but, at least on my PC, response time goes to shit too with what feels like slowdown and sluggishness without the frame rate dropping.
CanUKlehead
Member
Batmobile is the Poochie of the Arkham games. You nailed it.
Oh, and speaking of which,
when AK smashed the Batmobile, I could not have been more thrilled, only to be disappointed just minutes later.
I feelt exactly the same, I was actually really, really happy *g*
The perfect Dark
Banned
I had really fun to collect all trophies in AA and AC but in this game? It's shit, it's horrible.
Races? Follow trails? Guide robots? Wtf? Boring crap.
Seriously fuck those trophy races. You can't even retry, you have to go all the way back to the beginning. I'm done with Rocksteady after this game. I'm glad they're not making another Batman game. It's time for WB Montreal.
Races? Follow trails? Guide robots? Wtf? Boring crap.
Seriously fuck those trophy races. You can't even retry, you have to go all the way back to the beginning. I'm done with Rocksteady after this game. I'm glad they're not making another Batman game. It's time for WB Montreal.
Dave1988
Member
You mean the Riddler ones? If so, that's not entirely accurate. While it's true that if you select "Retry" from the pause menu, it resets you back to the very beginning, if you let the timer run out, Riddler tells you to retry the current lap instead of starting from the beginning.