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Batman: Arkham Origins |OT| Justice from the head of Prototype And Hulk: UD
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NOx_Covenant
Neo Member
It wasn't horrible, but it was tedious.
Add to the fact that I encountered Glitch #3555 which froze the game after receiving the new hook weapon, and you multiply that tedious factor by at least 2-3 times since I had to repeat the fight several times.
Main problem people seem to have is waiting to counter Slade's attacks even though the animation shows him hitting you. It goes against everything the previous games have taught players.
doniewhalberg
Member
YEEEEESSS. Just achieved the rank 15 challenge in the shadow vigilante track. 50x combo, 15 variations, no damage. Brilliant. Maxed the gotham protector track too, two to go!
I am actually so pleased with that haha. Did it in a fairly solid room too:
I am actually so pleased with that haha. Did it in a fairly solid room too:
just before the third bomb in the bridge, room surrounded by electric fencing
How do you fly right after you grapple?
Thanks!Create a shortcut to the .exe for the game and add benchmark to the end. It should look the same as below. Just run that shortcut and it'll do the benchmark.
"Crogram Files (x86)SteamSteamAppscommonBatman Arkham OriginsSinglePlayerBinariesWin32BatmanOrigins.exe" benchmark
Here's a link, which describes it near the bottom. http://www.dsogaming.com/pc-performance-analyses/batman-arkham-origins-pc-performance-analysis/
NMR, figured it out
I thought it was a great fight, took me a few tries though.
I'm in the middle of the
Mad Hatter
I have not finished the game but here are my immediate thoughts:
1. The combat is largely the same, but they made 1 HUGE change that can be a turn off for some, but a welcome challenge for others. Instead of being able to choose your skills to upgrade they now have a skill tree and most of the combat upgrades are locked away until you progress the story. This can be a HUGE disadvantage to people like me who made a living using the Critical Strike upgrade in addition to the instant takedowns, which enabled you to do instant takedowns and/or reach freeflow focus quicker. From a story and gameplay perspective it makes sense. Batman is young and raw and it makes sense to lock away his best upgrades until the end. It forces you to use the tools you have.
The combat also places a HUGE premium on the ability to counter. In principal it was also a good idea, but it has some problems that when combined with other problems becomes a major problem. Let me explain:
The camera in this game like the other games is still quirky. Too often the camera would get too close and you couldn't see many of enemies and you got hit because you couldn't see someone who was attacking. In AC it was annoying but I never felt it was something couldn't be overcome, but in this game it can be very frustrating. On top of that enemies in AO are MUCH more aggressive, the move faster and can attack you much quicker after doing an instant takedown than in previous games leaving you little time to react.
Where all of that really gets exacerbated is due to the fact that counters in this game have a difficult time registering. The knife counter takedown is one example where it only works about half of the time. In situations that require multiple counters it is downright rage inducing. Heck, even counter mashing doesn't work.
At the beginning of the game its a non-issue, but when you get to boss battles that rely on counters it becomes a problem. I thought maybe I had a problem with my controller so I went back and played Arkham City and had no issues, but then again having the ability to do critical strikes maybe just took the edge off.
Speaking of boss battles, they arent explained very well since its no always obvious when you are supposed to counter and when you are supposed to strike. The Deathstroke fight is a perfect example of this in which you are supposed to do counters, but there were times when the counter would do damage and there were times where I would end up taking damage. I never figured it out I just resorted to spamming my batclaw and that got me far enough.
Just my thoughts.
1. The combat is largely the same, but they made 1 HUGE change that can be a turn off for some, but a welcome challenge for others. Instead of being able to choose your skills to upgrade they now have a skill tree and most of the combat upgrades are locked away until you progress the story. This can be a HUGE disadvantage to people like me who made a living using the Critical Strike upgrade in addition to the instant takedowns, which enabled you to do instant takedowns and/or reach freeflow focus quicker. From a story and gameplay perspective it makes sense. Batman is young and raw and it makes sense to lock away his best upgrades until the end. It forces you to use the tools you have.
The combat also places a HUGE premium on the ability to counter. In principal it was also a good idea, but it has some problems that when combined with other problems becomes a major problem. Let me explain:
The camera in this game like the other games is still quirky. Too often the camera would get too close and you couldn't see many of enemies and you got hit because you couldn't see someone who was attacking. In AC it was annoying but I never felt it was something couldn't be overcome, but in this game it can be very frustrating. On top of that enemies in AO are MUCH more aggressive, the move faster and can attack you much quicker after doing an instant takedown than in previous games leaving you little time to react.
Where all of that really gets exacerbated is due to the fact that counters in this game have a difficult time registering. The knife counter takedown is one example where it only works about half of the time. In situations that require multiple counters it is downright rage inducing. Heck, even counter mashing doesn't work.
At the beginning of the game its a non-issue, but when you get to boss battles that rely on counters it becomes a problem. I thought maybe I had a problem with my controller so I went back and played Arkham City and had no issues, but then again having the ability to do critical strikes maybe just took the edge off.
Speaking of boss battles, they arent explained very well since its no always obvious when you are supposed to counter and when you are supposed to strike. The Deathstroke fight is a perfect example of this in which you are supposed to do counters, but there were times when the counter would do damage and there were times where I would end up taking damage. I never figured it out I just resorted to spamming my batclaw and that got me far enough.
Just my thoughts.
Now imagine your save has been corrupted.
Jaded Alyx
Member
You mean grapnel boost? Double tap the A/B/X (360/Wii U/PS3) button as you go up.
the funny thing in all this, is that the Va for Bullock is the same as TAS.
btw who is voicing Harley here?
Miles Quaritch
Member
Wait, Burnley Tower was glitched? I didn't have any problems with it, I just used the remote grapple to cross the gap, smashed through the window and used the air vent to get to the security panel.
Huh...
Huh...
If you do the security panel in the room before the vent it glitches.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
I'm about 4 hours in and so far I'm really enjoying the change in enemy behaviour. I started City on hard and the combat was dull throughout, Origin's on hard actually feels like a decent challenge. I've only had one main boss fight so far as I've been spending time doing the side stuff/collectable and I've yet to run into a major glitch so I'm having a good time so far. I'm especially loving the travel mobility in the game after the tedium of getting from point A to B in GTAV.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Ah, okay. Guess I lucked out then.
NOx_Covenant
Neo Member
Glitches are a weird thing.
They seem to be situation dependent. I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but I was a speed demon and I was hunting down enigma towers and unlocking stuff left and right. My amazing and undeniable skill in AC may have overloaded the game.
NOx_Covenant
Neo Member
It can't be that easy.
Otherwise Eric Holmes would have simply said that instead of linking a glitch youtube video.
Pops Maellard
Member
No, it wasn't. At all.
Some of the criticism in here is a bit laughable, particularly the people who are seemingly infuriated by the bridge.
Well that's what I've been hearing so far, also that the WiiU version doesn't have the bug at all. I'm going to go test it out when I go on to play a bit more so I'll come back and confirm it.
EDIT: Nope, that doesn't work on the Steam version. It sounds like the WiiU has the only version of the game that the Riddler side quest can be finished on.
Are you holding the stick in the direction as well?
As soon as you see the yellow flashing counter warning just hold both down, the game should lock you to that enemy, and nothing else should hit you. It's more dependable than it was in AC.
NOx_Covenant
Neo Member
Naturally, everyone has opinions, but I found the fight really repetitive.
You engaged Deathstroke, punched him around a couple times, and then a fast-paced QTE would happen until he either disengaged or threw a barrel at you.
Repeat this same sequence, except it goes faster and faster until he eventually dies. It was a very linear experience and I thought it was one of the weaker boss fights. But I wasn't really surprised. The biggest weakness of freeflow is 1-on-1 boss fights. That's why Rocksteady cleverly made the Mr. Freeze bossfight so indirect.
chickdigger802
Banned
do note to do shiva's sidequest asap. It unlocks critical strikes.
Robotziane
Neo Member
Think I may have just hit a game breaking bug in this. I am right at the end of the game and need to power a pump generator to raise the water level and in turn blow up a wall. Only issue is the button I need to press in order to start the sequence of events no longer works. Has anyone hit this issue and found any work arounds......I really am stunned at the poor quality of this game far too many bugs and issues with it.
AgentLampshade
Member
Yeah, I recognised it too, and the credits have Robert Constanzo there, so it's him.
Tara Strong is credited too, but I'm not familiar with hearing her do an average female so I really couldn't say if she voiced Harleen
mr teaspoon
Member
Wait, you just hold the stick and Y for all 3 attacks? I've been having trouble with this as well, and all my variations on technique seem to give me the same (low) rate of success.
Sometimes I pull back on the stick 3 different times (as in back + Y for first attack, release, back + Y for second attack, release), and sometimes I just keep the stick held back but press Y for each attack.
chickdigger802
Banned
i think just holding back is all is required, but i do what you do to, it just feels 'more natural' for me.
Ephemeris
Member
It's the batman way.
Yes, to dodge you just hold both down. To do the knife takedown you hold both, then let off Y after the first attack and press it again before each subsequent attack, while keeping the stick held down.
mr teaspoon
Member
Thanks. Seems too easy!
chickdigger802
Banned
weird, am i the only one that plays super defensive in each ac game?
But I'm one to utilize counter mechanics a bunch in action games.
But I'm one to utilize counter mechanics a bunch in action games.
Yeah and that too. First Ezio, then Redfield. Make no mistake, he is a terrific voice actor, he just doesn't fit Batman imo. Hey that is why we have options. German is fine with me so I'll take it.
I can't unsee it now.Snow looks like water
jacksepticeye
Member
Just started it today and played roughly the first hour. Got as far as
I really like it, Craig Smith does a very capable Batman, but it's mainly just the low talking tones so far and I have a feeling he will sound weird when shouting.
Combat is good but it feels a little less responsive this time. Like I pess Y to counter and he doesn't do it. But it seems the fighting isn't a s noob friendly this time around, just slightly harder.
Almost everything else feels identical as before and I am totally fine with that. I was surprised by how big the map was and when I saw the bridge I thought "It would be cool if I could fly over there" and I could lol
I stopped playing cos the game told me to perform a knife dodge ina tutorial and I couldn't do it for the life of me. I followed on screen prompts and he just got smacked around and died
Oh and the game looks really nice on PC, I love walking through snow and watching the little particles kick up and swirl around as you move through them.
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I really like it, Craig Smith does a very capable Batman, but it's mainly just the low talking tones so far and I have a feeling he will sound weird when shouting.
Combat is good but it feels a little less responsive this time. Like I pess Y to counter and he doesn't do it. But it seems the fighting isn't a s noob friendly this time around, just slightly harder.
Almost everything else feels identical as before and I am totally fine with that. I was surprised by how big the map was and when I saw the bridge I thought "It would be cool if I could fly over there" and I could lol
I stopped playing cos the game told me to perform a knife dodge ina tutorial and I couldn't do it for the life of me. I followed on screen prompts and he just got smacked around and died
Oh and the game looks really nice on PC, I love walking through snow and watching the little particles kick up and swirl around as you move through them.
Really? I think he makes a great young, slightly-arrogant Kevin Conroy in this game, and honestly...he kind of out-Bale's Bale >.>
(that scene where alfred confronts batman, lulz)
Spring-Loaded
Member
Batman's VA isn't bad. I'm definitely getting used to it.
What I'm not getting used to is the lack of the thunder audio cue when knocking out enemies. What the hell. It genuinely lessens the impact of the ass-kicking for me. I remember realizing this in Arkham City when I was playing it with the sound muted. Hope that gets patched in down the line.
What I'm not getting used to is the lack of the thunder audio cue when knocking out enemies. What the hell. It genuinely lessens the impact of the ass-kicking for me. I remember realizing this in Arkham City when I was playing it with the sound muted. Hope that gets patched in down the line.
I am a massive Assassin's Creed Fan. I heard that voice for hundreds of hours in II, Brotherhood and Revelations.
It is kinda hard not to hear Ezio when he is talking. It doesn't help that outside of the Italian accent he doesn't really sound all that different. I am not saying that he is bad (he is not) but my brain just can't connect that voice with Batman.
neoism
Member
YEP... after restarting and taking 3 hours to get right where I was before.. it crashes right in the same spot right as its saving and fucks my save up.... Man what an awesome 50 dolla demo... :*(
[CRASHES/FREEZES]
this one
[CRASHES/FREEZES]
Crash on startup, game will not load.
Black screen during cinematics.
Black Screen during Killer Croc's fight.
Freeze during Bane's fight.
Exiting the Final Offer
Crash after the "Loose Lips" arms dealer cinematic.
Freeze while Fast-traveling to the Batcave
Enabling PhysX causes more crashes
While "checking for content" due to resolution issues on GFXSettings.BatmanArkhamOrigins.xml
Restarting checkpoint after meeting Joker.
Crash on elevator with grinning manager after copperhead encounter.
Black screen during cinematics.
Black Screen during Killer Croc's fight.
Freeze during Bane's fight.
Exiting the Final Offer
Crash after the "Loose Lips" arms dealer cinematic.
Freeze while Fast-traveling to the Batcave
Enabling PhysX causes more crashes
While "checking for content" due to resolution issues on GFXSettings.BatmanArkhamOrigins.xml
Restarting checkpoint after meeting Joker.
Crash on elevator with grinning manager after copperhead encounter.