Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice - 1 year!

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"What do you want?"
"BET"

That one line cemented Sucide Squad as a piece of shit superhero movie and a piece of shit movie period. The shitty editing, acting, and thin story didn't help either.

I'd much rather watch BvS than that piece of shit again.
 
It's a trainwreck, albeit one I became fascinated by. Saw it four times in theatres and lost track of my viewings for the extended edition.
 
Subpar Spatula said:
Movie was meh. It's strange, though, how folks can't get over a bad movie.

Has any movie been hated this much by the Internet before? I wonder why that is. It's strange, too, because it doesn't even seem like "DC fanboys" bringing it up either.
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Becuz it's Batman vs Superman, movie should have been aces.
It SHOULD have been great.
 
Jeffolation said:
It's a trainwreck, albeit one I became fascinated by.
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This is how I described it to friends. Like you know what you're watching isn't good, but you keep watching because some small part of you, no matter how much you may protest, is plain morbidly fucking curious about what could happen next.
 
eizarus said:
Why though? It doesn't give a free pass to the theatrical cut for being what it was, but provides enough changes (which in the end made it the superior version by a long shot) that it shouldn't be disregarded itself.



Touche.
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I mean what changes? Fleshing out the clark scenes? Not only did those still prove to be incredibly boring but also didn't actually change the fact that his motivations for being antagonistic towards batman, were absolutely hypocritical. Perhaps its the scene in the beginning where he saves Lois and they try to flesh out how that was covered up which never actually changes how glaringly terrible that entire scene is (literally ruins the entire movie in and of itself) and nonsensical all of it is (superman still kills people with bullets which that flamethrower absolutely did not come close to destroying). The extra blood and gore? I mean, thats probably the biggest change in the movie. Being longer doesn't make it better, it makes it a longer BvS.
 
I really like this film. So, I am one of 5 people on this planet that can't wait for Justice League to finally hit theaters.
 
The RT thread is probably one of the most entertaining threads in GAF history. The Wolverine O face thread is the only one comparable. The hyperbole surrounding this film has lead me to conclude that 1) people either don't pay attention to the trailers let alone the movie hence why they are finding plotholes for shit that is clearly explained in the movie 2) and whilst I don't think I am a rocket scientist or anything there are some points in the movie where it expects audiences to put 2+2 together but people couldn't seem to do that. You'll have people saying they never explained how the death of a Robin affected hs psyche which is true if you ignore the old black guy saying he is mean and hunting, the Robin costume with graffiti on it, the various news reports detailing how the violence from Batman is a new thing, or people not being able to work out Superman was trying to say Martha Kent. 3) It's only wrong when Snyder does it and no one else. Reeves punched Kryptonians through buildings filled with people as well as killed Zod in cold blood and Batman has always killed but let Snyder do it for the sake of the story and he is worst than Hitler. One of the best CBM ever made. I need to buy the DC of Watchmen.

edit: there are parts of the editing that could have been done better. People don't understand that the false flag attack by Lex was to make it seem that Sueprman's actions were there to make it seem like actions have unforseen consequences. Not that Superman shot people. The bullets were there to force the gov't to collude in the coverup. The thing about the film you genuinely have to pay attention to just about every word in the movie. Same thing for MOS where a lot of people's plotholes were explained in the movie ( why did he not put his hands over Zod's eyes, cos a few moments prior his eye beams hurt the other Kryptonainas/ Why ddin't he catch the oil tanker, )
 
The biggest crime this movie commits is the one no one talks about.


Lex Luthor muders his loyal assistant in cold blood with no motive or justification. The character is immediately forgotten.

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RIP Mercy Graves, most attractive comic book movie character. Silenced without consequence.
 
Gordon Shumway said:
Crash. Fan4stic. But you probably loved them..
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No one talks much about those movies, so your point is quite null.

Take for example of the many Marvel threads that devolve into BVS or just how much bigger the weekly box office threads were because of it and SS.

Invoking the BVS name causes people to come over and play... why is that?

Edit: Wait, there's another set of movies that causes people to cluster: Star Wars prequels.
 
My final thoughts on the film is that its fantastic film albeit one that falters by foolishly jumbling themes with story in an effort to "elevate" the material.

Lex Luthor explains the themes of his character instead of any reasons for his actions.

Bruce and Alfred argue in metaphors rather than anything concrete - like how they never actually discuss Bruce killing people.


Superman, oh golly Superman, Zack puts so much attention to his body motions, facial expressions, the way he interacts with the world rather than any definitive lines of dialogue. Its strange

Terrio was trying really hard. Zack was trying too hard. But yknow its kind of like an indie film in that regard in how experimental it was in all of this.

Going into it originally I was just a fan of the characters and wanted a Man of Steel/Avengers type fun comic book movie. But I got something unlike that entirely and..
I love it. Very open-ended with a otherwordly quality. I love filling in the blanks
 
I can't believe it was made.

I simply can't understand how Snyder was allowed to make a movie like this.

Batman tries to beat Superman to death with a sink for fuck's sake.
 
Gordon Shumway said:
But people do talk about them, so there's no point in continuing. I know you well enough..
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Of course there's no point in continuing. You know 100% people talk about those movies but they don't talk about them in the same manner and length as BVS. Heck, the RT thread for BVS was magnitudes bigger than FANT4STIC: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1091082&page=1

and

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1199712&page=1

(I brought dem receipts)
 
GrizzNKev said:
The biggest crime this movie commits is the one no one talks about.


Lex Luthor muders his loyal assistant in cold blood with no motive or justification. The character is immediately forgotten.



RIP Mercy Graves, most attractive comic book movie character. Silenced without consequence.
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Did he, when did that happen?

Don't remember that at all. Seen both cuts.
 
I wish you hadn't reminded me this movie exists OP. I couldn't belive what I was seeing, I always hated Zack snyder from his previous efforts,I admit, but because I enjoyed MoS in spite of Henry Cavill (more on that later) I decided to give him a chance.

The movie came out shortly after my divorce was finalized, this was the perfect time to take my daughter with me, it was basically the start of a new chapter in my life, so I thought. Boy was I not ready for what was about to happen. Cavill wasn't even the worst in it, I mean, try to explain the piss jar plot point to a 10 year old.

I have no good will towards this movie or the cast to be honest. Back in 2013 shortly after MoS came out I went to my local candy store in Liverpool and I happened to find Cavill there, as I liked what he did in the movie I decided to just say hello and tell him he did good, no big deal right? Boy was I wrong, as I approached him I said "Hello henry I don't mean to bother you but..." and he just replied "Like you're doing now mate?".

I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw Cavill almost walking out the doors with a couple of "Sneakers" bars in his hands without paying, if not for Mr. Spencer, the chashier, calling him out. Apparently the chocolate was for his dog waiting outside. You can't give chocolate to your dog you moron, he'll go blind!
 
I actually had my head in my hands when Lex Luthor started throwing photos of Martha Kent, bound and gagged, at Superman. That's where it truly lost me, from there until the end of the movie, excluding only the first part of the warehouse scene.

It was there than the film revealed decisively that it had no love for these characters. Just an awful, angsty, tryhard film that appropriated beloved comic book characters the filmmakers clearly didn't care about to sell tickets.
 
Lion_Sagittarius said:
I wish you hadn't reminded me this movie exists OP. I couldn't belive what I was seeing, I always hated Zack snyder from his previous efforts,I admit, but because I enjoyed MoS in spite of Henry Cavill (more on that later) I decided to give him a chance.

The movie came out shortly after my divorce was finalized, this was the perfect time to take my daughter with me, it was basically the start of a new chapter in my life, so I thought. Boy was I not ready for what was about to happen. Cavill wasn't even the worst in it, I mean, try to explain the piss jar plot point to a 10 year old.

I have no good will towards this movie or the cast to be honest. Back in 2013 shortly after MoS came out I went to my local candy store in Liverpool and I happened to find Cavill there, as I liked what he did in the movie I decided to just say hello and tell him he did good, no big deal right? Boy was I wrong, as I approached him I said "Hello henry I don't mean to bother you but..." and he just replied "Like you're doing now mate?".

I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw Cavill almost walking out the doors with a couple of "Sneakers" bars in his hands without paying, if not for Mr. Spencer, the chashier, calling him out. Apparently the chocolate was for his dog waiting outside. You can't give chocolate to your dog you moron, he'll go blind!
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You sly motherfucker.
 
Lion_Sagittarius said:
I wish you hadn't reminded me this movie exists OP. I couldn't belive what I was seeing, I always hated Zack snyder from his previous efforts,I admit, but because I enjoyed MoS in spite of Henry Cavill (more on that later) I decided to give him a chance.

The movie came out shortly after my divorce was finalized, this was the perfect time to take my daughter with me, it was basically the start of a new chapter in my life, so I thought. Boy was I not ready for what was about to happen. Cavill wasn't even the worst in it, I mean, try to explain the piss jar plot point to a 10 year old.

I have no good will towards this movie or the cast to be honest. Back in 2013 shortly after MoS came out I went to my local candy store in Liverpool and I happened to find Cavill there, as I liked what he did in the movie I decided to just say hello and tell him he did good, no big deal right? Boy was I wrong, as I approached him I said "Hello henry I don't mean to bother you but..." and he just replied "Like you're doing now mate?".

I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw Cavill almost walking out the doors with a couple of "Sneakers" bars in his hands without paying, if not for Mr. Spencer, the chashier, calling him out. Apparently the chocolate was for his dog waiting outside. You can't give chocolate to your dog you moron, he'll go blind!
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Don't blame Zack for your failures as a father, husband and human being.
 
Honestly, the worst thing about this movie is all the potential adaptations it completely skipped/ruined the impact for. I would have KILLED (pun intended) for a Death in the Family film adaptation, but no, we completely skip that storyline. Going back to it in a flashback just won't have the same impact.
 
One of my favorite CBMs ever, the Ultimate Edition is definitely top 3. Too much outweighs what I consider to be minor complaints.
 
L4DANathan said:
Honestly, the worst thing about this movie is all the potential adaptations it completely skipped/ruined the impact for. I would have KILLED (pun intended) for a Death in the Family film adaptation, but no, we completely skip that storyline. Going back to it in a flashback just won't have the same impact.
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The Dark Knight Returns
Death of Superman

Iconic comic storylines pillaged to put together this shit-stain of a movie.

Just awful. I was truly irked when I saw the silver Superman symbol on the black coffin - they hadn't at all earned that iconic image.
 
I think they killed Supes far to early. Should have beend done in Justice League or in MoS 2. Would have been more impactful. So it was in his second movie and I was like ¯_(ツ)_/¯
 
The best thing that came from this move was the review thread. It was just one page after another of news coming in, people breaking down, Gaffers posting from the theater with impressions-and then seeing the other films on RT that had higher scores.

It was frustrating to see this turn out so bad, but the thread took the sting out of it by being cathartic for everyone to laugh with.
 
Still hard for me to believe that they released that mess of a film during such a high point for Superhero films. There was a clear progression from Xmen films to TDK films to MCU films then comes BvS to stink up the joint.

What a joke.
 
LionPride said:
"What do you want?"
"BET"

That one line cemented Sucide Squad as a piece of shit superhero movie and a piece of shit movie period. The shitty editing, acting, and thin story didn't help either.

I'd much rather watch BvS than that piece of shit again.
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And not Enchantress trying to twerk the end of the world?
GrizzNKev said:
The biggest crime this movie commits is the one no one talks about.


Lex Luthor muders his loyal assistant in cold blood with no motive or justification. The character is immediately forgotten.

tao-okamoto-mercy.png


RIP Mercy Graves, most attractive comic book movie character. Silenced without consequence.
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That bothered the hell out of me, why even have her there?
 
Alienous said:
The Dark Knight Returns
Death of Superman

Iconic comic storylines pillaged to put together this shit-stain of a movie.

Just awful. I was truly irked when I saw the silver Superman symbol on the black coffin - they hadn't at all earned that iconic image.
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Yeah, it definitely hurts. Honestly WB should have just remade "The World's Finest" and called it a day.
 
I haven't seen this and I just watched the
Doomsday
fight on youtube. WTF he looks so dumb, like an
overgrown Uruk-Hai
.
 
Person who liked the movie:

My theater loved it when [insert scene]

Person who disliked movie:

My theater burst out laughing/cringed when [insert scene]

Who do I believe now?
 
I didn't love the movie, but I saw it twice and actually felt like it left me with something to analyze and interpret... Which I can't say for many of the comic book movies I've seen.

Also, Ben's Batman is excellent and I wish we could have a standalone trilogy of that with all the Justice League stuff removed.
 
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