Batman v Superman - New Official Trailer

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wikum said:
the internet cried the first trailer was too dark. now it's too campy. lol.
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Sounds like it's going to be a mixture of both... which should appease both?

Imm0rt4l said:
Tone is all over the place, but I like that there seems to be some humor. Man of Steel was absolutely devoid of humor.
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I'd hesitate to judge tone just yet. Age of Ultron was super super dark, but the actual movie was much different in tone. Marketing/trailers can be a bit deception so I wouldn't rush to make any judgements this early in the game.
 
Error said:
it's funny how people eat shit up like Civil War shit and fights happening on garages and parking slots which make it look super cheap and almost tv series-esque and then say it's amazing, but then shit all over this for having some humor.

I mean, I knew GAF was overwhelmingly full of Marvel fans, but the amount of free pass Marvel stuff gets here, while everything DC gets shits on it's just weird. There's no way to have a decent discussion in these threads without some drive-by shit posts.
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They both look like shit. The Iron Man being double teamed stinger at the end of the Civil War trailer looked fucking awful and CGI as fuck and the animation looked really unnatural. This looks even worse.
 
Imm0rt4l said:
Tone is all over the place, but I like that there seems to be some humor. Man of Steel was absolutely devoid of humor.
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nah see this gets said a lot but there were quite a few humorous scenes in it, the problem was they fell so damn flat.

in fact I don't think there's a superhero comic book movie in existence without humor. somebody point one out. it's impossible.
 
SalsaShark said:
I love these "man I knew there were these marvel fans up in gaf but not so many!" at the negative reaction

it's not the fucking 90s.

Marvel has proven themselves and DC aint there yet, people are more wary of this movie and they should be, specially cause Man of Steel was a piece of shit and that same guy and writer and working on this and their next two films

you wanna call that my opinion and say MOS was great, fine, but that's not how it was generally recieved in comparison

there's a shit ton of reasons to be worried about this damn movie people
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Pretty much this. Has nothing to do with free passes or fanboy wars - the fact is that Marvel has consistently put out films that are generally regarded as good to great, while the current DC universe thus far has one film that was widely considered disappointing.

And now you get a poorly edited trailer for a movie by the same director as Man of Steel and wonder why people are down on it?
 
GAMEPROFF said:
Then watch movies that arent based on comic book superheroes
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Exactly. You have to expect some level of cheese in a genre of movies where characters dress in garish colors patterned after the American flag. You can shoot it seriously like Nolan or make it a bit more flamboyant like Whedon, but at the end of the day the cheese is still there no matter what you do. After all, no matter how serious the movie is, in the end, you still have a grown ass man calling himself "Batman".
 
Poodlestrike said:
Goyer got the boot. Nothing to do with BvS, Terrio rewrote the whole thing, from what I understand.

Also, the bolded phrases do not mean what you think they mean. Or at least, they do not mean anything that would represent the general flavor of criticism in this thread. Being "worried" would be something like "gee, it looks good/okay/decent/average, but the last one was not to my taste so I remain skeptical of the quality of the overall movie." That is what a worried group of people would say.

What we have here is mostly 2 groups: a tiny handful of people making well considered criticisms of the trailer and the content therein, and a whole bunch saying totally ridiculous shit. Be it the made-up history, the nonexistent tonal dissonance (with the rest of the movie, which is an interesting observation from a group of people who haven't seen it), and of course the ever popular "hi guys I'm just sticking my head into the thread to say that this trailer fucking sucked and so will the movie and so will all of the other movies and bye."

The former group, the guys who have stuff to say about the trailer that makes me think they at least watched it, they're welcome. The latter is what people are complaining about.
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im of the group that loves Batman and DC in general but thinks Snyder shit the bed so bad with MOS that I have 0 confidence about him getting it right and nothing show thus far gives me any hope beyond "Batman suit looks cool"

think there's plenty of me

im not being cynical. glad to be proven wrong; no reason to think I will

im just bummed out that this what turned out to be the DC movie universe

if we're gonna continue with comparisons; marvel's started with Iron Man, this one started with fuckin MoS
 
im a DC stan, wonder woman is my number 1 most favorite character of all time in just about any media and until i lost a bet ive had a wonder woman avatar on this site for years and i love dc heroes more than marvels and blah blah anyway what im trying to say is that i am not some kind of rabid marvel stan mocking this trailer for some fanshit war

this trailer was not good to me, sorry
this nintendo-esque persecution complex is so overdone tbh
 
this is going to tank. that looked awful, teenage mutant ninja turtles awful.

DC sinks both their biggest assets once again.
 
Error said:
the problem with Marvel's humor is that it's overdone, Tony is sarcastic yes, but he he overdoes it in the movies and it gets tiring. there's absolutely nothing wrong with Batman asking Supes if Wondy is with him. it's the type of dialog that make its way into the comics.

no one from dc or wb, said these movies are super serious and have no humor. that shitty rumour was started by guess who, devin fararci, and was never confirmed by anyone from WB. Having a movie grounded in reality doesn't mean it doesn't have humor. These movies were never meant to be super serious and devoid of humor, no one from WB or DC ever even said that.

and david ayer even said that Suicide Squad is actually pretty funny, you know like it should be, since Suicide Squad is basically black comedy.
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All that is fine. And I agree that Marvel overdoes it at times (AoU especially). DC has itself to blame for the dark and dour reputation given MoS being the launching pad for this whole thing. DC can have humor, but I just want it to be tonally consistent with these characters. If we see Clark's personality lighten throughout the film to a point where his making a quip or two feels right, then it'll work fine. But just given what we know of that character now, he is the farthest thing from that.
 
Compbros said:
Civil War mentions the Superhero Registration Act, Tony talks about heroes having limitations, Cap disagrees, they all seem to be going after Bucky. It's not hard to draw conclusions from that.
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but why are there teams? I get why Tony and Capt America would be in a scuffle over Bucky, but why aren't the other avengers stepping aside? Where's Fury lie in all this? The trailer had me asking more questions about the movie. That's what makes it so good, that's what makes any trailer good.

Compbros said:
Bruce is mad at or scared of Superman but I have no clue why Superman is going after Batman so hard.
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These are questions that I wanted answers to, that's why I wanted to go see the movie in the first place, but since the trailer already shows them working together why on earth would I care as a fan to see why Bruce is so mad at Superman when in the end they're buddy buddy cracking jokes. I don't care anymore.

Compbros said:
You're also comparing the first trailers to the third, the first 2 trailers showed very little. Civil War is really the closest thing to Supes/Bats I can think of so I'd like to see what happens further down the line from them. Make no mistake, I think this is a baaaaaaaaaaaad trailer.
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No no no no, never. I very much enjoyed every trailer before this one especially the sneak peak yesterday, I thought it was the best teaser I've seen since the first dark knight one almost a decade ago. It got me so amped up to see this movie 7:00PM thursday opening night, thinking it could be great and now after this trailer it's like well, the hype to see it opening night is just gone. I'm glad you can see the criticisms in the trailer and possibly understand what I'm saying.
 
Betty said:
That's fine as long as you don't show it before hand because it dilutes the conflict before hand.

Also... while they will probably end up as friends later on, there's a good chance they won't by the end of Civil War.
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It's a dumb plot device regardless of who is involved.
 
it really is that added part of my previous post that bums me out even more

these films have levity. This is now the DC movie universe. I despised Man of Steel and now im gonna be stuck with it as canon and as what Superman is for years to come.

it's funny (and sad) to experience the other side of this now that every film is part of a fuckin universe that will go on for 10 years

after Man of Steel I just wanted them to wait and take another crack at it, or for this to be unrelated, and for Snyder to be uninvolved

nope. stuck with it
 
serenewarfare said:
All that is fine. And I agree that Marvel overdoes it at times (AoU especially). DC has itself to blame for the dark and dour reputation given MoS being the launching pad for this whole thing. DC can have humor, but I just want it to be tonally consistent with these characters. If we see Clark's personality lighten throughout the film to a point where his making a quip or two feels right, then it'll work fine. But just given what we know of that character now, he is the farthest thing from that.
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DC is not to blame when it comes to things outside of comics, it Warner Brothers. DC doesn't get much of a say, and the creative decisions from WB have also bled into the comics.
 
I'm... less hyped.

Honestly I'd have rather this movie be focused on... yanno. Batman vs Superman. Not all this other stuff. Teaming up to beat whatever that guy is at the end seems like it could weaken that a bit. And by "a bit", I mean "A LOT".

//shrug
 
I literally laughed afterward. What a mess.

The last trailer showed some promise, after the woeful MOS I was actually thinking it might be good, and it was a shame it was tied to MOS.

Wonder Woman just appearing, jesus. Stupidest thing to put in a trailer I've seen in a long time.
 
SalsaShark said:
it really is that added part of my previous post that bums me out even more

these films have levity. This is now the DC movie universe. I despised Man of Steel and now im gonna be stuck with it as canon and as what Superman is for years to come.

it's funny (and sad) to experience the other side of this now that every film is part of a fuckin universe that will go on for 10 years

after Man of Steel I just wanted them to wait and take another crack at it, or for this to be unrelated, and for Snyder to be uninvolved

nope. stuck with it
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yeah :/
 
Anyone who has seen the Winter Soldier will know that it was a very impressive film, particularly the combat. It is unlike anything we've seen from Marvel or DC. .

Civil War looks to build on that. The beat down of Iron Man in the trailer was more exciting and impressive to think about than anything we've seen from Synder's Superman (or AoU).

Again; its not an issue of Marvel or DC but rather of the over use of CGI characters.
 
bad said:
DC is not to blame when it comes to things outside of comics, it Warner Brothers. DC doesn't get much of a say, and the creative decisions from WB have also bled into the comics.
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Then blame WB. Either way they both have to work to correct it if that's not the tone they want for their universe. To me it doesn't matter what angle they choose as long as it is consistent throughout.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
There is like zero chance of that happening.
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Toxi said:
It's a movie with Superman and Batman, it would be one hell of an achievement to make this tank.
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a916 said:
LOL, we can debate the quality of the movie, but this is clearing 1B easily lol. (see, Transformers)
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It won't financially bomb, no. I mean it will tank both critically and emotionally amongst fans. It's most likely going to hurt the franchises. That's my point.

1billion? I wouldn't be too eager in saying that just yet. Personally, i don't think it hits 1billion if the reviews and reception come back bad.

the only decent thing in this whole trailer was wonder woman.
 
SwolBro said:
It won't financially bomb, no. I mean it will tank both critically and emotionally amongst fans. It's most likely going to hurt the franchises. That's my point.

1billion? I wouldn't be too eager in saying that just yet. Personally, i don't think it hits 1billion if the reviews and reception come back bad.

the only decent thing in this whole trailer was wonder woman.
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Where is this critical reception among the fans tallied? Because people will have you believe MoS did terribly with fans but it's viewer reception was actually fairly good. Are we judging based on internet reaction, where nearly everything gets hated on in some capacity, and extrapolating that?
 
Looks like they took as many comic elements as they could threw them against a wall and filmed what stuck ..

I'll still see it, while it will have some amazing looking set pieces I am sure it will have no tension or coherent storyline.
 
Trailer was ok. Batfleck looked alright like I thought. The action scenes will probably be legit because that was the best part of Man Of Steel.

Maaaaan what is up with Eisenberg? He looked like by far the weakest part of this. He's a good actor, and I thought he'd be able to pull off a good Lex, not exactly confident of that anymore.
 
That initial reveal of Jesse without hair had me hyped about his version of Lex ...

Everything I've seen from him in these trailers have been terrible.
 
serenewarfare said:
Then blame WB. Either way they both have to work to correct it if that's not the tone they want for their universe. To me it doesn't matter what angle they choose as long as it is consistent throughout.
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I'm not blaming anyone for THIS movie, until I see it. I thought this latest trailer looked fun. I can complain about other stuff (Armovsky being passed for Snyder for MOS, George Miller not doing JL or Superman sequal etc), but in the end, it's just supposed to be a fun flick.
We've already been blessed with some great comic book movies, so I don't expect much anymore.
 
SwolBro said:
It won't financially bomb, no. I mean it will tank both critically and emotionally amongst fans. It's most likely going to hurt the franchises. That's my point.

1billion? I wouldn't be too eager in saying that just yet. Personally, i don't think it hits 1billion if the reviews and reception come back bad.

the only decent thing in this whole trailer was wonder woman.
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I didn't know this film was already out? Where can I see it
 
Feeling conflicted about the trailer. Remain hopeful this lives up the promise of the premise and the tone and visuals that first teaser established.
 
bad said:
I'm not blaming anyone for THIS movie, until I see it. I thought this latest trailer looked fun. I can complain about other stuff (Armovsky being passed for Snyder for MOS, George Miller not doing JL or Superman sequal etc), but in the end, it's just supposed to be a fun flick.
We've already been blessed with some great comic book movies, so I don't expect much anymore.
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Oh I'm not talking about BvS. I'm talking about the tone already established due to MoS that BvS then has to either come to terms with or finesse away from in a way that doesn't feel like a forced tonal shift.
 
serenewarfare said:
Oh I'm not talking about BvS. I'm talking about the tone already established due to MoS that BvS then has to either come to terms with or finesse away from in a way that doesn't feel like a forced tonal shift.
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I feel like that's the whole point of the movie. "Dawn of Justice" pretty much means that they're shifting the tone to something that would better accommodate a film about seven costumed heroes by using the conflict between Superman/Batman and its resolution to do it.
 
serenewarfare said:
Oh I'm not talking about BvS. I'm talking about the tone already established due to MoS that BvS then has to either come to terms with or finesse away from in a way that doesn't feel like a forced tonal shift.
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They could just do a tone shift for creative reasons... they clearly weren't confident in doing a DCEU until after MOS. They may have set the visual/foundation but nothing is set in stone. I'm fine if they adjust the tone for the better (don't know if it's better until the movie is out though)
 
jackdoe said:
I feel like that's the whole point of the movie. "Dawn of Justice" pretty much means that they're shifting the tone to something that would better accommodate a film about seven costumed heroes by using the conflict between Superman/Batman and its resolution to do it.
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If they can pull it off, I'll be all for it. It'll be tough though, and forgive me if I don't have the utmost confidence in DC/WB at this point. I so badly want to love this movie. Just need them to give me reasons not to dislike it.
 
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